No. No. No.
Rally proper is time trial which is incompatable with multipcrash, sorry, player. If you try to make ForzaMotorsport all things to all men it will be awful. Oh hang on, thats what they are already doing…
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This is a question with no real good answer, honestly. That doesn’t mean there will never be a good answer, just given the present state of the Forza franchise, rally tracks in Motorsport would be like opening the proverbial can of worms.
Do I want Rally Tracks in Forza?
Yes, because all the SUVs, Offroaders, Trophy Trucks, Buggies, Rally Cars, etc. would have a legitimate place to race.
No, because that would cause too much overlap between Motorsport and Horizon. There needs to be a distinction between the two. With racecars in Horizon and buggies in Motorsport, it’s already wearing thin.
Yes, because it would open up the possibility for more tracks, more featured motorsport divisions, and even more exciting racing.
No, because there are many great tracks and divisions of motorsport that aren’t featured or severely underrepresented already, and I would not want to see them get shoved aside for a small dirt track instead.
Yes, because Forza’s arguably largest competitors, Gran Turismo and Project CARS, both feature/have featured off-road racing, and this would make a Motorsport title more in line with it’s competitors, mitigating reasons for players to look elsewhere for their annual racing fix.
No, because the treatment it would get would be akin to the treatment drag and drift modes have in Forza now. I’d call their state a joke, but that would imply at least some humor, and there’s nothing funny about them.
Yes, because it would be interesting to see how the ForzaTech engine handles off-road racing with the Motorsport touch, not the Horizon, and it would create a fun challenge for hotlappers to hone their skills on more than one type of terrain and to try to build and tune a vehicle competitively for doing so.
No, because, frankly, Forza hasn’t even perfected road racing. It’s not wise to plan a second story on your house when your foundation is already crumbling from the first.
Not an easy question, is it?
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It be cool, but they should get the motorsport-part right first before they take on a new challenge.
And though it be fun it’s not something I demand from T10 as this is a track-racing game and not a
rally game. You shouldn’t expect an orange if you buy an apple…
normally i would say no. and get my hopes up that they focus on more tarmac and new to the series tarmac circuits. but with this car list i could se myself using some of the cars more if there was some kind of dirt races. so with this car list i have to say yes, and it would be welcome as a expansion this time arround.
personnally i would like to see it in a new series of forza.
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Yes.
Just had thought of Camino extreme with rally sections. Adding rally sections to past fictional tracks sound like an awesome idea to me. Maple valley, driving through the maple trees on a dirt road, could be rely cool.
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in reply to topic title: No, there is Dirt4 for that.
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You can easily skip it if it’s in the game from the start though? Just like drag racing and drifting, you could entirely skip those out in both FM5 and FM6.
Sure, the more the merrier I say. They’ve got the regular track racing done well at this point, so having a group of their team working specifically on other disciplines. At this point, rally/dirt tracks make the most sense, with having a large number of off road vehicles present in the car list.
By that logic, there’s no need for track racing, there’s Project Cars 2, Gran Turismo Sport, Assetto Corsa, etc etc for that. No need for Online Multiplayer, there’s Also Project Cars 2 and Gran Turismo Sport for that. No need for drifting, there’s a multitude of mobile games for that. No need for drag racing, there’s a fair few mobile games for that. No need for car customisation, there’s things like Stuner, and the 3DTuning site for that.
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Hahaha, no they don’t. Our tires magically change to rain tires in the middle of a race when it starts raining, tire wear is (most likely still) nonexistent and we don’t even have any control over the wear rates through lobby options, fuel mileage between the cars is all over the place and we have no way to compensate for it, we still don’t have intelligent pit stops (choose which tires to replace, how much fuel to put on), kerbs on 75% of the tracks are terribly done, our lobby settings and restrictions need more work and much more precise settings as well as some of their silly limitations dropped (for example can’t order the grid if buckets are active), drafting (possibly still) barely exists, track limits for dirty laps and cutting are still very prevalent issues, free play is (most likely) still very limited, their selection of BoP race cars are all pretty terribly unbalanced and we aren’t given proper tools to fix them, and probably other various things I’m forgetting at the moment.
When they get that stuff sorted (most of which will never happen) and develop a better selection of road courses then I will fully support pushing dirt/gravel/snow rally into the Motorsport series. Until then, they can keep developing it in the Horizon series or make a “Forza Rallysport” or something and put full effort behind it. Half-assing it into the main series though will just serve as little more than a distraction from other areas they need to polish up.
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I stand corrected then. Though that’s more in depth stuff that a fair amount of the playerbase wouldn’t care for. Those that you’d call “casuals”.
First off Forza (literally means force) Motorsport is just a name and the game does what it says on the box. Any kind of engine powered racing is motorsport, the game features racing and therefore is motorsport, plus Gran Turismo features more than just GTs mow doesn’t it. Forza and Gran Turismo are about cars and car culture and should stay that way, and while I don’t care for the off-road stuff replacing some beloved FH3 and FM6 cars, if they were in addition to those I’d have no problem.
They could bring rallycross courses in. Daytona, Hockenhiem and Catalunya both have rallycross courses that use the space already modelled, and would only need the addition of the dirt road sections and changes to barrier placement. Silverstone will have rallycross from next year, although it will be on the Stowe circuit (behind the new pits), so would require a new area to be built. They already have the locales for it, plus the 60 dirt surfaces from Horizon so why the heck not.
I know rallying didn’t work in GT, their rally stages either like a dirt covered Thruxton or Maple Valley or you have to over take a car on a road 3ft wider than the cars and if you even thought about touching the car in front, 5 sec penalty for you. So It really didn’t work, but if Forza went with real rallycross circuits, sorry ribbons in Forza parlance (whatever that is supposed to mean) instead of special stages, then I think it would be good fun. You’d have to figure out how to implement the joker for casual players to understand and use properly though.
Its circuit racing, so would fit in with Forza according to everyone, we’ll just gloss over Pacific Shipyards and Fujimi before it became a circuit. It would be a fun addition, its just a shame many things like drifting (something I don’t care for) and drag racing is kept out because of those achievement/100%ers would rather chase after arbitrary goals, no one cares about another’s Gamerscore, and unlike other games, car collecting games don’t tend to lose anything if you don’t complete them. I don’t care for drifting but why shouldn’t those guys get a fully fleshed out mode, it shouldn’t be because someone doesn’t want to have to miss out on 30g because they don’t want to drift or can’t. If Forza asked us what we wanted in a game and we all had to agree on it, the game would be pretty poor on content, and you’d end up with Forza 7… chill, chill, its a joke.
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YES.
I would like to see some narrow tarmac stages, like rally/touge/hillclimb.
Also some classic rallycross tracks are welcome, so the old group B and group A homologation models have a place to be used. Lyngaas would be my favorite
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Anyway, shouldn’t this be in the wishlist??
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I’d say yes, absolutely. All the offroad vehicles in the game deserve to stretch their legs or else they’ll just collect dust. Rally and GRC cars can compete on Rallycross circuits held on existing tracks while the more extreme vehicles like Trophy Trucks can have a go on those dirt circuits you see with cambered turns, jumps, tabletops and ripples. Something like that could be perfect if built in with the new test track facility.
Highly unlikely but I bet it would be extremely fun. Eitherway, I’m lookin forward to how this pans out
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No matter what feature you add there will be those for and against. If T10 thinks that a majority of the player base will like it, they will move in that direction. FM7 will probably have an expansion eventually so this is one possibility.
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Well since Pcars 2 is a simulator and gran turismo sport is on another platform we actually need FM7 for track racing…
You don’t need it at all, you can also go back and play the multitude of other Forza games available, going back to the original Xbox, you could go and play Trackmania, or the various F1 games. Branching out even further, The Crew has some real racetracks in it, go and play that. The Crew 2 supposedly has some dedicated events on various race tracks around the map.
My point remains, don’t like rallying, if it’s introduced, then don’t play it. Simple as that. Having rallying added isn’t going to just take away all tarmac tracks all of a sudden. Like I’ve said in a previous post, this game isn’t called “Forza We Can Only Have Track Racing, Not Allowed Any Other Motorsports At All”, it’s “Forza Motorsport”. Rallying belongs in the game as much as a discipline like drag racing, or drifting does.
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This is the the reason i need FM7 https://forums.forza.net/turn10_postst99374_FM7-New-Features-List.aspx and i can’t find em in Forza Motorsport 5 nor 6.
I only have a Xbox One and any of those new features can be found only in FM7.
Now i don’t know why you quoted me with your silly comment after i only answered the thread and gave my opinion, but why didn’t you just gave your answer to the thread instead of bothering me?
Seriously i buy FM7 because i liked the 6 and i like the new features, is this really a problem for you?
This was my answer to the thread:
"No…
Well if they really have to i’d prefear in a future dlc so i can skip… "
I’m going to add: “Please T10 add Rally tracks at the launch of the game even if i will not play at all, even if rally tracks weren’t in your previous FM games or Connor is going to bother me”
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And now you’re just being immature. Grow up.
You didn’t mention anything about new features in the game though, you said, and I quote “We actually need FM7 for track racing…”. That’s a fairly incorrect statement, there’s plenty of other games that offer track racing.
If you re-read my post, you’ll see exactly why I quoted you and your own silly comment. It was to point out that even if it was in the base game, it can easily be skipped. It doesn’t need to be DLC to be skippable.
And onto your last line, not a problem at all. You do you, however that has no relevance in this conversation whatsoever, so I’m not sure why you felt the need to bring it up. It comes across as you being overly emotional, and argumentative for the sake of it.
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Yes, yes, yes!!! BUT no half-baked version of it and actual rally (point to point; hard and technical stages; rallycross can be bonus).
OT: Why people keep referring to Project Cars 2 as a simulator (not the first thread here, where I have noticed that)? Is it? First one was in the same bag with Forza and the second one isn’t out yet to be 100% sure, what it is.
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