Car availability locked behind progression?

They’ve had that kind of thing in Forza all along and I hate it. They reward cars far too often in the games.

Yeah, you basically need to buy five Hummers to get to tier 2. The bottom number just shows how many cars are currently unlocked (because of tiers and career progression) and how many you have bought.

I am not a fan.

I don’t disagree with progress control, but we have that in career mode. You start out with lower categories, a hot hatch championship, and vintage car championship. Online is a madhouse anyway, and preventing people from buying faster cars wont stop that, PLUS it seems like you can just rent them anyway if the race requires a car you don’t own. You cannot jump into a Supercar race right from the get go, so why the heck does it matter if I own one. Forza 6 WAS FINE.

HOWEVER, what it does do is keep me from buying car I like/want and painting and tuning it and using it in free play. If I want to just do some laps of maple valley in a 2015 Mustang (like the one I own), sorry chap, you need to buy 10 hatchbacks first, and oh, that bankrupted you, so grind some more.

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Don’t be silly and spread misinformation.

Of the 109 cars available, some are indeed cheap hatches.

The vast majority however are sports coupes and sedans, classics, some trucks, some off-road cars like mini x-raid, a huge selection of muscle cars, and some European sports cars. The formula Mazda is on this list too.

I’m sure as a mustang guy you could find some enjoyment with the 1971, 1965, and 1978 mustang as well as the Aussie falcons (3 to choose from).

You’re literally complaining about being forced to play a few hours to get to your desired car. Im sorry but it’s not that bad. At least you don’t have to wait weeks or months just to get something you want like in other games.

FM6 was a joke. There was no progression at all. It made single player incredibly boring. No apparently the skies are falling because some may have to race other cars just to get to their desired car. Come on. At least be open minded and enjoy some new car for a change.

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The only reason I’m even still considering buying FM7 is purely for organised leagues (largely because of the absence of fixes to the shocking MP experience over the past few versions), so the prospect of having to jump through hoops to be able to select whatever cars come up is unwelcome. That’s not closed minded, I’m just not going to be forced to waste my time grining through zero-challenge parts of the game I don’t have any interest in to access content that I already paid for.

Forza used to be a racing game, not Pokémon with cars.

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If this is the case that will be the final deal breaker for me and nudge me from a “wait and see” into a “definitely not buying”.

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Seriously?! Having to play the game and actually put work in to earn cars is a deal breaker for you? Really?!

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Yes. I have 0 interest in playing career, or in any sense of progression, or in the pretend economy. I play MP. The progression I enjoy comes from getting better at the game. I just want to choose one of the cars I’ve already paid for with real money and race it.

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Folks c’mon, this is what we as a community must sound like to the devs-

Last 2 Forza games-“Getting cars is waaaay to easy where’s my sense of progression?”
Forza 7-“They expect me to put effort into collecting million dollar hypercars!??!? How dare they!”

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That’s not totally fair, we see two polarized views. For the last 2 games one half (not me) complained that it was too easy. Now that its not people like myself are complaining. What we can learn from all this is despite what you do, people will always be unhappy.

“You can please some of the people all of the time,
you can please all of the people some of the time,
but you can’t please all of the people all of the time.”

John Lydgate

Although as far as post’s on here go it seem seems the middle line should be

you can please ALL of the people NONE of the time,

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I can only imagine the outrage if T10 ever brought back home regions with region-locked cars & discounts. Those were the days.

What was that saying again? Ah yes:

I just happen to be in the “game progression increases replay value” group.

I think Turn10 are smart enough to understand that there are different types of player with different, often contradictory opinions.

The hope is that they are smart enough to cater to both groups.

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It is my understanding that all cars are unlocked for free play and available to rent for career races and multiplayer. You just won’t be able to customize them unless you own the cars.

I don’t like that at all. Half the fun of Forza is in the painting and tuning. I personally won’t drive a car until I’ve upgraded/tuned it, and almost never before I’ve painted it.

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Why not? No where did anyone say you can’t buy a car and then tune and paint it.

Which is exactly equivalent to not being able to use them at all, from a MP point of view.

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Using them (rent) is not the same as owning, painting, and tuning, and making it yours. The actual point of collecting.

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If cars are locked in the store, can’t you just buy them from the auction house?

Well, first off, the tiers are based solely on car ownership, so if you want to play strictly MP and get your money for cars that way, you can. Though that said, there will be a small number of cars tied exclusively to the singleplayer career.

The auction house can be used to sidestep all these restrictions, even to buy the career exclusive cars others choose to sell off, much like the midnight battle exclusive cars from FH3. The problem there is the AH will be disabled on launch for an undetermined amount of time