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[PJTierney]

@Will_Driver_C

@PJTierney

I suggested loading screen tips before, sounds simple and non-intrusive enough while also guaranteeing that a message is read.

It’s too late for Forza Motorsport 6 anyway.

There are tips in the loading screens. At the bottom right in small text. I think you get one that says do most of your braking on the straight before turning in. Although, I can’t remember if this is in MP or is just in SP?

I miss the FM3 loading screens. They had basic tips and cool bits of automotive information. It was nice to read.

I’m aware of those, and forgotten most of them because of how tucked away they were.

Something like this is what I had in mind:

@PJTierney

I still believe that education is the way forward, rather than anything hard-coded. The challenge with educating players however lies on how to get their attention. The players that “need help” in terms of racecraft may not be the type who’ll actively search it out, so putting it somewhere obvious may be the best option:

Here’s a good example from Grand Theft Auto Online. I’m sure something similar in a Forza styling would {a} make players pay attention before a Multiplayer Race and {b} encourage them to try out the tips in their next race, resulting in cleaner racing overall. Imagine the following with tips explaining how to go 2-wide around a corner, where are the safest places to overtake etc.

Also, since it’s on-topic:

@PJTierney

I think we’re going round in circles when it comes to making online racing a cleaner experience.

There are a number of things that can help remedy the situation, some of which we can do ourselves, and some of which rely on Turn 10 taking some initiative:

• (Player) Report persistent troublemakers via Xbox Live’s features and policies.
• (Player) Vote to Kick a problem player while in a lobby with them.
• (Player) Leave a lobby and find another one which may hopefully be cleaner.
• (Player) Start using the League Hoppers.
• (Player) Race privately with friends.
• (Player) Get involved with Racing Clubs and other people who organise private races & championships.
• (Player) Educate yourself and others on the fundamentals of clean racing.
• (Turn 10) Improve the effectiveness of Vote to Kick in lobbies.
• (Turn 10) Have grids sorted by some form of performance metric rather than random assignment, such as Fastest Lap, Previous Result etc.
• (Turn 10) Have some sort of system in place that rewards clean racers and punishes dirty racers.
• (Turn 10) Have some in-game features that can help educate more players on the fundamentals of clean racing, such as loading screen tips, tutorial videos etc.
• (Turn 10) Have a subpage on Forzamotorsport.net which gives tips on how to have an enjoyable Multiplayer experience.
• (Turn 10) Open up League Hoppers to be active for longer time periods.

That’s just a small summary, I’m sure there are more things that both we and Turn 10 can do to help make racing more enjoyable for everyone but until something changes there’s not really much point in talking about the same things over and over.