Benefits of driving with assists off in FH3?

Hey Everyone,

I love playing Forza Motorsport with assists off and always pushing myself to try and get better as a driver. It wasn’t until Horizon that my friends started playing with me, and now as Horizon 3 approaches I’m beginning to wonder if driving with all the assists off is something I should spend time mastering. I’d love to get some feedback from the community if anyone drives this way while playing online with friends, and if they feel as though they always come in last when they do. Is it a death sentence almost guaranteeing that once you get bumped off-road your not going to be able to recover when driving with a wheel?

This may seem like a silly question, but I’m wondering if I’m the only one who thinks about this stuff. I love improving my lines and gear shifting on turns in Motorsport, I don’t know if this translates into Horizon. Is there ANY benefit to taking off ABS, STM, and using simulated steering?

Thanks and I’m watching this calendar like it’s Christmas approaching.

It looks like you’re mostly interested in performance benefits, but another benefit to consider is credit bonuses:

It all depends on the individual. I personally don’t see the point of having traction and stability control on and I turn ABS off if the car doesn’t have it in real life. Racing line is pretty pointless in Horizon imo unless it is a circuit track, personally don’t use them in FM either though. I love having fuel and tire wear on in FM wish the fuel was an option in Horizon. But I feel like i can only have sim damage on when I race with my mates in both games as you can’t trust the AI in forza like in other games.

tl:dr - it’s up to you, do what you get the most enjoyment out of, regardless of what your friends have turned on or off. I also enjoy having full control iver the car I’m driving and not having a racing line on the road. I don’t get that when I take my car to the track haha.

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I don’t like sim steering, the implementation so far has produced less than desirable results for me so far, H3 may be different.

I completely cannot drive with STM on, particularly in a Horizon game. I like being able to adjust the rotation rate of a car during cornering, and being able to exploit oversteer or understeer to do this is a must for me.

ABS is questionable for many, but if you are able to threshold brake, you may be able to stop in a shorter distance.

Personally I turn everything off so there is no intervention of my control of the car. With the variable surfaces in Horizon, I prefer to adapt my driving to conditions rather than hoping the STM and TCS will get it right for me.

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Sim steering is great for racing wheels, but terrible for anything else. ABS is acceptable if you’re cruising around in a modern car, but I personally disable it. I feel I’m good enough with car control to not need it. Heck, my car irl doesn’t have them and I can stop shorter, and smoother, than my folks’ car can.

I’m an all or nothing guy and usually turn everything off. I prefer how the car feels with no TCS and no ABS.

There are definitely benefits like being able to get your car to “slide” into a turn if you turn a little to sharp and early, mashing on the brakes with no ABS can get you to slide out just a little bit more and get around the corner and no TSC means being able to put down the power how you feel it should be put down. I can’t stand it when I go through a corner and I’m holding down the trigger and there is no power. Running with Lines on or off will make no difference once you have learned the physics and braking distance of the cars. Although I’ll likely run braking line for the first few hours to get the hang of the game and its physics. I’m a Simulation steering person. Don’t know why I am, but when I first started playing FM I always had Simulation steering and damage on. Its just what I prefer I guess.

All in all though, if you are a good enough driver, having everything off should enhance your race times, not hinder them. But the most important thing to remember is to drive comfortably and have the car behave how you want it to. So no, I don’t believe turning some assists on/off would effect how well you race or how you place in the races.

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you should turn them off that way the skills pay the bills, you have no idea how good you actually are if you let the computer do all the work for you

Practice makes perfect. :smiley:

Manual w/ clutch can be a problem playing tag (reversing or starting again after crashes) but other than that, turn em all off.

Much more fun and you get a better feel for how your cars handle, and how tuning this or that affects your ride.

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I always run with all assists off, manual W/clutch, and simulation steering.

In FH2 there was not a lot of benefit from having the assists on unless you had an insanely powerful RWD with a poor tune.

So my suggestion is run with as many assists off as you can because the benefits of having them off outweigh the gains from having them on…moreso than in FM in my opinion.

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I usually race with ABS and TCS off, but I only use manual, as I haven’t personally been able to get used to manual w/ clutch. I like being able to make the cars misbehave, and the TCS intervenes too much for me to like it. I do use the racing line, but I don’t normally pay attention to it. I just use it as a benchmark for areas that I am unfamiliar with, or, in Horizon games, for the GPS.

I’ve only just started turning most of mine off, I feel I’ve been playing Forza enough now (been playing since January 26th 2015) to be able to drive with most of them off, not everything though but maybe one day I will get to switch it all off who knows.

It’s great getting the extra credits especially in Horizon 1 as I’m finding that the slowest game to earn credits in so far so I’d hate to think how slow it would be without those bonus credits I am earning.

Unsure if I’ll turn assists off straight away in Horizon 3, I probably will but I’ll see how I feel come 23rd September!!

Only thing I have on is Normal Steering and Driving Line.

ABS doesn’t let you slide into turns, which (in very small quantities) can give you an edge on very tight turns and off-road where it might be helpful to have the wheels locked.

TCS and STM meddle too much with the power of the car. Learn how the weight transfers on your vehicle and you’ll be able to have much more intelligent control of the throttle than the generic threshold set by these assists.

Automatic transmission and the auto-clutch are both horrendously slow, as is historically how they have always worked in every Forza game.

I don’t have time to learn the tracks so I do tend to use the Driving Line only as a marker for the track itself. I don’t really follow its advice on braking or the actual line to follow.

Sim Steering is a little too sensitive for me. Without real G-forces, I can’t accurately tell how finely I should turn the wheel, so Normal Steering gives me a little wiggle room as far as that area is concerned.

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