[Balance] AI unfair cornering, traction, speed

[FlashyClamp5213]

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@ClawedScroll554

@FlashyClamp5213

“If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it probably is a duck.”

Good that game isn’t developed on that principle, horrible things has happened when people thought they saw a duck.

As we cannot see what we cannot see, things can only be delivered at best effort.

@ClawedScroll554

@FlashyClamp5213

Make the game what people feel like.

People like who? For me the game works, for some it doesn’t. That’s like every game ever.

Ideally, everyone. (cater as more players’ likes as possible)

@ClawedScroll554

@FlashyClamp5213

@ClawedScroll554

For opposite, I just did playlist events vs. Unbeatable with stock cars. Pagani Zinque Roadster, Porsche 911 Carrera 2 Gunther Werks. For Street event I used '92 Honda NSX with body kit and it was boring. Did Street Scene run through with 992 Toyota Supra 2.0 GT Twin Turbo, won every event.

Didn’t see cheating AI anywhere.

Probably related with the car selection.

The AI’s performance seems to be directly related with the Suggested Driving Line, despite which seldom really reflects the car’s real performance.

When it’s underrated, alright, easy game; but when overrated…

High power RWD cars with tricky handling (not bad handling potential (or good even…) but hard to handle), mostly heavily tuned ones, tend to suffer the “overrated” problem.

LOL no and it has nothing to do with racing line. See below.

@ClawedScroll554

'15 Chevrolet Camaro (S1 818 stock and S1 900 upgraded).

Street Scene, Ambleside Ascent, Autumn (rain), Unbeatable, no aids, manual.

Stock: - 1st. 2:26.864
Drivatar 2nd: 2:27.249

S1 900: 1st. 2:09.897
Drivatar 2nd: 2:13.602

Win margin:
Stock: 0:1.615
S1 900: 0:4.295

Relative performance against Drivatars increases with PI.

What has it to do with your “nothing to do with racing line” assertion?

@ClawedScroll554

@FlashyClamp5213

I recommend you to try the “X 999” class. Or if you insist stock, try “2017 Koenigsegg Agera RS”.

Combining with this:

@FlashyClamp5213

• Leader Speed Boost (to the 1st place when you reach the 2nd, ignoring the car’s real performance)

You can find bugs, trucks, SUVs, … running ridiculously fast comparing to those cutting edge performance toys (race cars designed for no race).

And players can do that too. I have run upgraded vans, off-road vehicles, whatever vs Drivatar with sports car or whatever and won with considerable margin. I’m not going to argue about “But it’s only ‘cheating’ when Drivatars do it!”

Which means, you cannot reproduce the move with the very car.

Once tried racing a Drivatar (“Highly Skilled”) driving stock “2012 Ferrari F12berlinetta” with the very car (Freeroam Head-to-Head), was able to constantly realize that it was pulling away in the straight line.

@ClawedScroll554

X-class isn’t homogulated at all, it’s the wild class. People who play the game know this.

I must also emphasize: no Drivatar drives any “X 999” car as of 1.410.986.2.

@ClawedScroll554

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We are done.

It was never about the debate, it is always about the truth.

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@NeubaumTurk_HK

Lower difficulty levels show that they are fast in a straight line, horrid around corners. It’s why power builds in the right hands are so good against A.I., yet grip builds can still compete fairly well.

I feel the opposite… I find “power builds” tend to be “overated” while “grip builds” tend to be “underrated”.

@FlashyClamp5213

The AI’s performance seems to be directly related with the Suggested Driving Line, despite which seldom really reflects the car’s real performance.

When it’s underrated, alright, easy game; but when overrated…

High power RWD cars with tricky handling (not bad handling potential (or good even…) but hard to handle), mostly heavily tuned ones, tend to suffer the “overrated” problem.

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@AquaPainter168

Ai faults are due to with in-game processing speed restrictions. Usually when programming the player car you can add all the physics like the drifting for example, but the other 11 cars can’t use all the physics, because that would be too slow.

The main bottleneck is not the physics simulation, but the AI’s decision making.

Making the AI drives as good as (or be better than) the top tier drivers demands heavy verification on the algorithm design. They didn’t bother, and simply made this cheating Drivatard thing…