This is my first Forza and the most expensive game I’ve ever bought at £80. I’ve played it quite a lot, enjoyed looking at it and single player is pretty good. However, it’s now been 6 weeks and the game is basically a buggy mess with terrible servers. No point in going over all the issues (constantly being kicked out of online races, waiting for 20 minutes to find a session, can’t connect to Horizon Life, etc, etc … )
What I find really concerning are the things that you’d think would be fairly simple to fix, that haven’t been. Every other time I start the game I have to go and purchase the Lake Lodge. Sometimes the game decides I’m not a VIP member anymore, and tries to take me to the real money shop to buy the pass, at which point it freezes. Then there’s also not receiving the double Forzathon points and the weekly bonus. In addition, my ranked adventure rating has been stuck at level 20 with zero points for 9 days. I’ve reported it but no response; it’s not even on the list of known issues, which leads me to wonder if it’ll ever be addressed.
So basically I’m wondering, were the previous games like this at first, and did they get fixed eventually? Cheers.
I only played untill Forza 4 and Horizon 1, bought 7 and H4 this year, judging by the forums I would say yes, 7 was unplayable for me until a month ago for example, the thing is devs take a long time to fix something so small, I see devs releasing huge patches every week or two on some other games, why not this one, so far Horizon 4 never gave me very serious problems, only crashes, some accompanied by blue screens
You guys sound like you’re on PC. At this point you should just accept that buggy games on the PC are the norm. It’s 2018 and I lost count of how many AAA games have had day 1 patches to fix stuff, as well as AAA games with small bugs that have never been fixed (happens a lot with Ubisoft’s games).
The problem is when the inconsistency in quality spreads to consoles, because one of the reasons people play on console is to avoid inconveniences they experience on PC.
But of course you had such experience. FH3, FM6 are all dead save for few dedicated people, so there’s not many rammers, who prey on the game with the most people (the newest one, which is FH4), and the load on the servers is less.
This is exactly the wrong approach. Games are released in unplayable states because we accept it. The easiest way to solve this problem is twofold: don’t buy a game until you hear confirmation (via reviews, forums, etc) that it’s actually stable, and never EVER pre-order. If everyone did that for a couple years, devs will change their tune.
I have play forza games since fm1 and for my opinion this is worst forza game that they have ever made. I get fh3 abaout 4-5 months after release and i cant see this game in that point being nearly as good shape in that point than fh3 was. I would have no problems to wait some bugs to been fixed if core gameplay would be good but when core gameplay is this kinda mess it’s hard to see how this game is gonna keep people intersted.
I’ve played FH, FH2, FH3, FH4, FM5, FM6, FM7, and FH4 is by far the buggiest. It just doesn’t feel like I’m playing a console game at all, I expect a console game to run absolutely perfectly as it’s running on a 100% fixed platform, and that just isn’t happening with FH4.
Those problems are down to your dodgy connection to the MS servers not the game code.
Could be down to dodgy internet, using wifi or and old xbox with dodgy hard drive.
Are you doing any funny stuff with profiles and sharing?
Whatever is happening, your xbox is not remembering authorisation for what youu have purchased.
If you are on PC, fair enough as it shouldnt be a pc game and has never worked properly on that. Same things apply though.
It isn’t technically a port, BUT… even if you have good computer specs, there is always the chance for instability. The Horizon series has always been more graphically intensive than FM proper because there is SO much more that needs to load. As someone that plays a lot of RPGs, I have seen MUCH buggier games (consistent corrupted saves are worse than just simple crashing), so I might also be numb to it.
I’m on PC. I’m not doing any funny stuff, as far as I’m aware. Not really sure what your point is; whether or not it should be released on PC is irrelevant, it has been and it should be more or less finished when you pay your money for it. Obviously all games have some bugs but they are usually dealt with fairly quickly. Judging by the other responses on here it seems like the developers take months to fix things, which is unacceptable. The last update seemed to make things worse if anything.
No, Horizon 3 suffered from some micro stutters and some other random server issues, but they were eventually sorted out. However, there’s already more problems/bugs with Horizon 4 than were ever manifesting in Horizon 3. I actually don’t have confidence these problems will be fixed, because it’s horizon. The map is what defines the game, and nobody wants to play the same map for longer than the traditional cycle. So , they just keep making new games instead of actually fixing the existing ones. This is one of the benefits to the motorsport series, and it seems like they’re finally wising up to the fact that we don’t really want MORE buggy/problematic games, we just want you to fix the ones that exist. I’m not sure why that was so difficult to wrap their heads around.
Horizon 4 is actually unplayable for me. I use a wheel, and the force feedback actually got worse from 3 to 4. There’s a MASSIVE deadzone in the middle of all of my wheels, and there are other bugs in the force feedback that I just don’t like. I’ve been playing the new Assetto Corsa , Project Cars 2, and the old Assetto Corsa. Forza seems like it’s much more oriented for casual gamer’s who are looking for more high energy, shorter blasts of fun. Wherea’s sim’s require time and effort to build a skill that can be used to compete with other racers. I made a mistake a long time ago that was attributing motives to the developers that weren’t actually there. I thought Forza was supposed to be somewhat realistic. I’ve learned that couldn’t be farther from the truth. These games are made with an entirely different goal. Most of the complaints against Forza are with regard to that very topic. People expect an approach to racing that is more like a simulator, and they instead get an arcade game with lots of ramming, wall riding, and all sorts of crazy.
I would really like the developers of the Forza series to come out and steak their reputation on what these games are SUPPOSED to be. If you ask the community you get a different answer from everybody. Some people call it a sim, some people call it a simcade, and others call it an arcade game. So which is it? Well, the only people who can put a rest to this argument are the developers, and they wont actually address it. So I have no choice but to assume it’s an arcade series from now on, because that’s what I’m seeing.
Ive had the same problem with my wheel as well. I have nearly a dozen other racing games from other Forza titles , Horizon 3 also, Dirt 4, Dirt Rally, F1, etc and NONE of them give me NEAR the problems using the wheel that this game does. Them on top of that issue half the time I cant do my weeklies and dailies that require me to interact with NPC cars because in spite of half a dozen times clicking on the button to make sure I’m in a live session I can drive around the map for 2 hours and see 1 car aside from the people actually playing and I cant use them for the daily quests.
Come on DEVS get your crap together, this is supposed to be a finished and polished game.
Do you really need to devs to come say what category games forza games are? Fm7 is simcade, fh3 is simcade, fh4 is overwatch copy, it’s not any kinda racing game. Some peoples may call forza games sim and some arcade and only thing that mean is they dont know nothing how to gategory racing games.
And i havent read anyone hear to except fh4 be any kinda simulator racing online expierence, people have except to get fh2 and fh3 kinda online exprirement. Fh4 online experience is what we get when we mixed overwatch and destruction derby.
HORIZON 3 2 crashes in a year and a half brillant game FM7 gave up even trying to play that abbreviated profanity trouble is now with microsoft now owning both playground (horizon)and turn 10 (motorsport) have been integrated
The sound glitches and random crash to the dashboard are a first in forza for me (never really played 7 though). Still enjoy the game, but it could be better in those two regards.
@V12 SprungBoss Yes, I want the developers of a product to be candid about what the product is. Call me crazy. If you need me to give you a long and drawn out explanation as to why that’s important, by all means. Until then, I’ll spare the thread and the rest of the people here the obvious…
I am not interested in the subjective opinions of consumers. I am more interested in what the developers are intending , because it tells me if the goal is being met. If Forza is intended to be an arcade game, they’re hitting home runs every time. A simcade is a lukewarm euphemism. It’s an oxymoron. It’s like saying “tallshort”, or “skinnyfat”. I’m not going to get into philosophical arguments about why you shouldn’t set out to be lukewarm, or “in the middle” of a polar opposite phase.
I would like the developers to be accountable , because they’re either succeeding at what they’re setting out to accomplish, or they’re not. It matters because they’re selling a product that costs money. If you sell me a cold steak, it’s entirely reasonable if I’m trying to purchase cold steak. However, if I show up for hot steak and you serve me a cold steak, it’s not reasonable at all. The only way for me to avoid this , is for you to be candid about what you’re selling. Does this make sense? I don’t want to waste money buying something , only to learn it’s not what I expected because the phraseology used to describe the game (AMONG CONSUMERS) is incredibly vague and controversial, most of whom don’t agree with each other. The developers are the only ones who can sort that out. And they should. It’s in their own best interest.
Horizon games have destructible scenery, take off ramps, bonus boards stuck on top of churches and you want the devs to explain to you what kind of game it is? Looks like you went into a pizza restaurant and expected to be served fried chicken.
So for me it’s seem you can only see there is two kinda racing games, arcade racers and sim racers, and for your opinion is game is not sim it’s then arcade. Simcade is damn stupid word but it’s also excatly what games like forza, gran turismo, dirt, formula one are and even project cars is more simcade than real sim even tho it’s have mutch more sim elements than forza have. Or do you really think when we take games like trackmania, forza 7 and iracing we could but those 3 just in two category?
So you have buy forza game expecting it will be sim game (and if know anything abaout forza and racing games knows it’s not sim racer). and now you are mad because it’s not simulator. Espicially in these days when we have internet full of data it’s not that hard to find out what kinda game is before buying so it’s not devs fault that you dont know what you are buying, like i wouldnt blame devs if i go buy fallout 76 and find out it’s not same kinda game than fallout 4 was.
All Forza titles have had their problems. That being said, FM7 had many features removed that were seen in previous titles and had many technical issues. FH4 is in the same situation (arguably worse). These issues seem to have started with FM7. I have personally been playing year round, every year, since Motorsport 4. FM5 had some features removed, but that may have been because of the move from 360 to XB1. The technical issues and disappearance of gameplay features seems to mainly have been happening since FM7, and those issues seem to be persistent through FH4 as well.