So far the car pass has been a huge disappointment for me. I do not care for race cars and had I known the cars beforehand I likely would not have purchased it. Are there ever going to be normal road cars?
Only M2 competition, but the Carpass is an absolute disappointment for me as well because it doesnât have road cars.
Itâs supposed to be their Motorsport ethos. Track racing and race cars. Weâve been begging for more LMGTE/GT3 cars for ages. All of the ones we have are outdated. Thatâs why theyâre adding more race cars like the 720 GT3 and the AMG GT3 etc.
If we could get a full class of race cars then that would be ideal, but they only add winning cars from each year into the game.
Concur with you the more race cars the better, If i need street/road car fix i play FH5.
Did you ever look at the title of the game?
I donât really care to drive a billboard on wheels with downforce. Itâs like training wheels and FH5 is not even comparable, what are you on
Sadly for me I donât like race cars or BMW.
Im in the same boat, the road cars have always been the most fun to me. This also has the effect of screwing over those that mainly drive race cars and didnât buy the car pass, but thatâs probably the point.
To you guys saying âMotorsports is in the titleâ, is this your first FM game? Road cars have always been the main focus.
Road car customization is a focus because people love to see how fast they can go in a straight line. Race cars have always been the focus of Forza Motorsport. Road cars are the focus of Forza Horizon if you look at the car list of FH1-Now compared to its Motorsport counterparts. Driving road cars on the road vs driving race cars on a race track.
Itâs all about the corners on a track, and road cars are much slower at doing that.
Hereâs the problem with dismissing that statement: when you take the time to not just attach the name Motorsport to your game, but to also feature an IMSA Le Mans Hypercar-spec prototype on the cover of the gameâŚthen you had better make a concerted effort to ensure that race cars are well-represented throughout all aspects of the game.
To date, there has been one championship in single-player that has actually involved any race car, and that was the Prototype Power series in Update 1. You canât run that series anymore, because it was cycled out and is not slated to return, just like all of the Builderâs Cup FOMO content.
Thatâs a slap in the face, if you ask me.
So youâre saying you donât use aero, your lap times must be amazing.
And? You do know road cars can also be race cars, right? The Holden Torana A9X won Bathurst. By a still record 6 laps. I would rather drive a slow road car and try to squeeze every last inch of power out of it than half drive a hypercar because itâs too powerful for most situations.
The Holden Torana A9X that won Bathurst was a homologation race car based on a road car. Like any of the past Australian touring cars and V8 supercars, technically once they become a race car theyâre no longer a legally registered road car.
Most of road cars DNA comes from motorsport race cars, where everything is tested to the limits then filtered down to road cars for the masses.
On the one hand, I definitely prefer taking a variety of road cars around race tracks; but on the other, if all of the DLC cars are race cars itâll save me a few bucks. In the past Iâve gone in for the car passes, but theyâve been disappointing overall so I held off this time around and am not regretting that decision.
To be fair, that doesnât explain why the career is exclusively road cars. Itâs not like thereâs much coherence to it, and putting more race cars behind a paywall is further evidence that this âethosâ is a massive joke.
That said, more racecars is nice. I wish there were conversion kits to turn some road cars into their racecar version. Or that they put the race version alongside the road version when possible. Like, thereâs the 360 Challenge Stradale, but not the 360 Challenge.
Dawg, I could count the number of drag races Iâve run in FM games on one hand without using my thumb. Itâs an utterly absurd statement.
Since it IS A âMOTORSPORTâ title after all, where are all the NHRA related events?
If you and âthe boyzâ are able to get permission to setup an autocross course in a parking lot for an afternoon for the fun of it, that is also MOTORSPORT. You all realize this, right? All that it ACTUALLY required for it to be MOTORSPORT are two individuals with vehicles and a willingness to compete.
True, but if youâre competing then thatâs an expensive, and steep slope. Whether it be drag racing, or autocross, thereâs always going to be someone faster. Soon youâll want track days, then race days. Unless youâre an automotive journalist and even then in that field, the best automotive journalists all have racing backgrounds.
Trust me, going fast is an expensive hobby. All the coaching, and equipment costs loads of time and money. If you donât have the money to race then chances are youâre buying tickets to see races. Anything to satisfy the need for speed.
Keep in mind that if youâre serious about any kind of Motorsport, it leads to race cars around race tracks if you have the fortune of affording it.
Thatâs all very true. I canât really argue with any of it. Everything you just said IS WHY previous FM games are awesome though.
Iâll probably never have a chance to take my '98 Civic around Spa in real life. Iâll never get to lap Sebring in my old manâs favorite muscle car, the '69 Hurst Olds. Iâd be engaging in a motorsport activity if I did those things though.
The point isnât that motorsports arenât expensive. The point is that motorsports are more than LMP or GT3 cars. The point is itâs not cool for you to tell me the activities I want to engage in should be restricted to fictional versions of the British or Mexican countryside anymore than itâs cool for me to tell you that if you really want to race GT cars that game is out there for you.
I donât begrudge you the things you want to see and do in the game. Every time you or someone else suggests Horizon and itâs fictional reality where a Senna can drive on grass with relative impunity, you are kind of begrudging us the things we enjoy.
All cars should be race cars its a Motorsport game not normal road car game, Iâm very happy that they are actually putting in race cars instead of boring normal road cars
The point isnât that motorsports arenât expensive. The point is that motorsports are more than LMP or GT3 cars. The point is itâs not cool for you to tell me the activities I want to engage in should be restricted to fictional versions of the British or Mexican countryside anymore than itâs cool for me to tell you that if you really want to race GT cars that game is out there for you.
Motorsport is the act of racing anything motorized, so no itâs not just GT3 and LMP cars. Since sim-racing is now apart of the Motorsport, any online race you partake in is also considered Motorsport no matter what vehicle youâre racing. And just like real life, or any career mode, you start off slow and work your way up getting adjusted as you go.
Itâs a competition to see whoâs the fastest and it doesnât end until youâre in your early 40âs. You could say it never ends if starting late. When buying a wing it will be function over form, unless you just want to look like rice. Most people who track religiously end up getting whatever wing is best.
If youâre starting late, and karting isnât an option then a good road car is a good place to start, so they have their place. If you ever hit the lottery and decided to buy a huayra r then youâd be getting a Motorsport experience with coaching etc. Manny Khoshbin has to train to drive his incoming Solus GT. Valkyrie AMR pro owners get invited to Aston Martin track events. Ferrariâs XX program is the same bar SF90, etc, etc.
Not telling you to go to Horizon, but just try to think of the meaning behind Motorsport before defending the claim that a real racing game needs more road cars. Iâm sure if you had the opportunity to buy a â98 Civic Type R you wouldnât turn it down? Your old manâs Oldsmobile is fast, but if you owned it would you feel 100% satisfied?
The only satisfaction that I can think of is the GMA T.50, which is a manual owners dream, but even then Iâd still have to take it somewhere where I can put the pedal to the metal because a short stretch of tarmac could easily put me into triple digit territory. I already own a manual car that with a short stretch of tarmac could put me into triple digit territory.
I know Iâm babbling but it helps because I figure things out about life this way. sighs Bring back the manuals right? Iâm sure Senna in 1992/1993 Would agree.
TLDR;
Anything over what the government seeâs as safe should be reserved for the track, and thatâs Motorsport. Road cars are a great way to get into racing if you start late, but understand thereâs always going to be someone faster unless your name is Max Verstappen. The question becomes what are you satisfied with should you get into racing? Not begrudging you, just trying to clarify the definition of Motorsport, because it is a competition.
Edit: I wasnât trying to begrudge you, just saying look at the car lists from FM1-FM â23 compared to the car lists of FH-FH5.
Itâs still a road car. You canât compare them to a car that was purpose built just for racing.