Are all car pass cars going to be race cars?

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So far the car pass has been a huge disappointment for me. I do not care for race cars and had I known the cars beforehand I likely would not have purchased it. Are there ever going to be normal road cars?

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Only M2 competition, but the Carpass is an absolute disappointment for me as well because it doesn’t have road cars.

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It’s supposed to be their Motorsport ethos. Track racing and race cars. We’ve been begging for more LMGTE/GT3 cars for ages. All of the ones we have are outdated. That’s why they’re adding more race cars like the 720 GT3 and the AMG GT3 etc.

If we could get a full class of race cars then that would be ideal, but they only add winning cars from each year into the game.

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Concur with you the more race cars the better, If i need street/road car fix i play FH5.

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Did you ever look at the title of the game?

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I don’t really care to drive a billboard on wheels with downforce. It’s like training wheels :rofl: and FH5 is not even comparable, what are you on

Sadly for me I don’t like race cars or BMW.

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Im in the same boat, the road cars have always been the most fun to me. This also has the effect of screwing over those that mainly drive race cars and didn’t buy the car pass, but that’s probably the point.

To you guys saying “Motorsports is in the title”, is this your first FM game? Road cars have always been the main focus.

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Road car customization is a focus because people love to see how fast they can go in a straight line. Race cars have always been the focus of Forza Motorsport. Road cars are the focus of Forza Horizon if you look at the car list of FH1-Now compared to its Motorsport counterparts. Driving road cars on the road vs driving race cars on a race track.

It’s all about the corners on a track, and road cars are much slower at doing that.

Here’s the problem with dismissing that statement: when you take the time to not just attach the name Motorsport to your game, but to also feature an IMSA Le Mans Hypercar-spec prototype on the cover of the game…then you had better make a concerted effort to ensure that race cars are well-represented throughout all aspects of the game.

To date, there has been one championship in single-player that has actually involved any race car, and that was the Prototype Power series in Update 1. You can’t run that series anymore, because it was cycled out and is not slated to return, just like all of the Builder’s Cup FOMO content.

That’s a slap in the face, if you ask me.

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So you’re saying you don’t use aero, your lap times must be amazing.

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And? You do know road cars can also be race cars, right? The Holden Torana A9X won Bathurst. By a still record 6 laps. I would rather drive a slow road car and try to squeeze every last inch of power out of it than half drive a hypercar because it’s too powerful for most situations.

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The Holden Torana A9X that won Bathurst was a homologation race car based on a road car. Like any of the past Australian touring cars and V8 supercars, technically once they become a race car they’re no longer a legally registered road car.
Most of road cars DNA comes from motorsport race cars, where everything is tested to the limits then filtered down to road cars for the masses.

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On the one hand, I definitely prefer taking a variety of road cars around race tracks; but on the other, if all of the DLC cars are race cars it’ll save me a few bucks. In the past I’ve gone in for the car passes, but they’ve been disappointing overall so I held off this time around and am not regretting that decision.

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To be fair, that doesn’t explain why the career is exclusively road cars. It’s not like there’s much coherence to it, and putting more race cars behind a paywall is further evidence that this “ethos” is a massive joke.

That said, more racecars is nice. I wish there were conversion kits to turn some road cars into their racecar version. Or that they put the race version alongside the road version when possible. Like, there’s the 360 Challenge Stradale, but not the 360 Challenge.

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Dawg, I could count the number of drag races I’ve run in FM games on one hand without using my thumb. It’s an utterly absurd statement.

Since it IS A “MOTORSPORT” title after all, where are all the NHRA related events?

If you and “the boyz” are able to get permission to setup an autocross course in a parking lot for an afternoon for the fun of it, that is also MOTORSPORT. You all realize this, right? All that it ACTUALLY required for it to be MOTORSPORT are two individuals with vehicles and a willingness to compete.

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True, but if you’re competing then that’s an expensive, and steep slope. Whether it be drag racing, or autocross, there’s always going to be someone faster. Soon you’ll want track days, then race days. Unless you’re an automotive journalist and even then in that field, the best automotive journalists all have racing backgrounds.

Trust me, going fast is an expensive hobby. All the coaching, and equipment costs loads of time and money. If you don’t have the money to race then chances are you’re buying tickets to see races. Anything to satisfy the need for speed.

Keep in mind that if you’re serious about any kind of Motorsport, it leads to race cars around race tracks if you have the fortune of affording it.

That’s all very true. I can’t really argue with any of it. Everything you just said IS WHY previous FM games are awesome though.

I’ll probably never have a chance to take my '98 Civic around Spa in real life. I’ll never get to lap Sebring in my old man’s favorite muscle car, the '69 Hurst Olds. I’d be engaging in a motorsport activity if I did those things though.

The point isn’t that motorsports aren’t expensive. The point is that motorsports are more than LMP or GT3 cars. The point is it’s not cool for you to tell me the activities I want to engage in should be restricted to fictional versions of the British or Mexican countryside anymore than it’s cool for me to tell you that if you really want to race GT cars that game is out there for you.

I don’t begrudge you the things you want to see and do in the game. Every time you or someone else suggests Horizon and it’s fictional reality where a Senna can drive on grass with relative impunity, you are kind of begrudging us the things we enjoy.

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All cars should be race cars its a Motorsport game not normal road car game, I’m very happy that they are actually putting in race cars instead of boring normal road cars

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Motorsport is the act of racing anything motorized, so no it’s not just GT3 and LMP cars. Since sim-racing is now apart of the Motorsport, any online race you partake in is also considered Motorsport no matter what vehicle you’re racing. And just like real life, or any career mode, you start off slow and work your way up getting adjusted as you go.

It’s a competition to see who’s the fastest and it doesn’t end until you’re in your early 40’s. You could say it never ends if starting late. When buying a wing it will be function over form, unless you just want to look like rice. Most people who track religiously end up getting whatever wing is best.

If you’re starting late, and karting isn’t an option then a good road car is a good place to start, so they have their place. If you ever hit the lottery and decided to buy a huayra r then you’d be getting a Motorsport experience with coaching etc. Manny Khoshbin has to train to drive his incoming Solus GT. Valkyrie AMR pro owners get invited to Aston Martin track events. Ferrari’s XX program is the same bar SF90, etc, etc.

Not telling you to go to Horizon, but just try to think of the meaning behind Motorsport before defending the claim that a real racing game needs more road cars. I’m sure if you had the opportunity to buy a ‘98 Civic Type R you wouldn’t turn it down? Your old man’s Oldsmobile is fast, but if you owned it would you feel 100% satisfied?

The only satisfaction that I can think of is the GMA T.50, which is a manual owners dream, but even then I’d still have to take it somewhere where I can put the pedal to the metal because a short stretch of tarmac could easily put me into triple digit territory. I already own a manual car that with a short stretch of tarmac could put me into triple digit territory.

I know I’m babbling but it helps because I figure things out about life this way. sighs Bring back the manuals right? I’m sure Senna in 1992/1993 Would agree.

TLDR;

Anything over what the government see’s as safe should be reserved for the track, and that’s Motorsport. Road cars are a great way to get into racing if you start late, but understand there’s always going to be someone faster unless your name is Max Verstappen. The question becomes what are you satisfied with should you get into racing? Not begrudging you, just trying to clarify the definition of Motorsport, because it is a competition.

Edit: I wasn’t trying to begrudge you, just saying look at the car lists from FM1-FM ‘23 compared to the car lists of FH-FH5.

It’s still a road car. You can’t compare them to a car that was purpose built just for racing.