So I played Forza 6 Apex for a good amount of time but I’ve never been able to play it decent on my PC.
Generally all games I run trough other services, steam, origin, gog all run fine but with two games from Windows Store (Forza Horizon 3/Forza 6 Apex) I’ve never been able to get a stable framerate.
I even tried re-installing windows, swapped my harddrives because I tought they had to be faulty because of the horrible performance, nothing worked. I even tried swapping my videocard for my old videocard and strangely enough the games did run a little better.
Either way I am quite a big fan of the Forza Games so I ended up buying a Xbox One to play my games and altough I enjoyed them on the console I would prefer selling it again and just playing on PC. Anyway I wonder if there are other people who experience the same bad performance on PC? I played the game on 1080p medium settings and got around 25-60 fps depending on the track and what type of race, the races where you had to drive between cones would generally be under 30 at all times.
For refference I have no problem running games like Rise of the Tomb raider or The Witcher 3 with a solid 60fps on 4k with most settings on high/ultra
My PC is a Ryzen 1700X with 1080GTX TI and 32GB’s of Ram and I am running the games from a new SSD.
My old graphics card was a 780GTX which seems to be a better fit for running the game on 60fps but I don’t want to swap my videocard in and out. Forza Horizon 3 does perform a “little” bit beter and if I lock the game on 30fps it doesn’t drop below it so the experience is about on-par with what I get on my Xbox One
So I am worried on what Forza 7 will be like, will it have improved PC support? Do I need to be worried?
I have an i7-6700k, 16GB RAM and R9 290X and Apex runs beautifully, locked at 59-60fps, never had any issues. I do not play Horizon so I cannot comment on the performance on that.
I was planning to upgrade to a 1080TI for FM7, so I really hope there isn’t an issue with that card. I cannot see why there would be an issue. Have you got the latest nvidia drivers?
Is there possibly an issue with Forza not being optimized for Ryzen CPUs, as Apex and Horizon 3 were released before Ryzen?
I can run Apex fine but with some micro stuttering sometimes. Some tracks make the game crash to desktop. No error or anything.
T10 claim that graphical improvements and optimization to the Forza engine for Forza 7 enable it to run better and on lower spec PCs than before. We will see when it launches. I’d like to run it on both PC and Xbox one.
APEX runs really great for me. I’m pretty confident 7 will run at least as good. This is the first title they have actually built from the ground up for the PC. I’m thinking it will be really incredible if APEX is any indication. Really looking forward to having a full Forza game with full peripheral support on PC.
For me its a financiel question because if it runs worse on my pc again (like current forza games) then I prefer getting the disc on xbox one, i guess there is no real way of testing and it really depends on a lot of factors, some people with a 1080ti run the game in 4k with all shiny things on im just not one of those people.
I am kind of suspecting the problem lies in the windows store, since it doesn’t use full screen and has a history of problems with Nvidia drivers. But I guess we will just have to wait and see, it looks like other people do share my concern.
I will keep my xbox one for now, I was thinking of selling it but I do want to play my fav. racer every year.
I’ve also had subpar performance in Apex and Horizon 3 on my PC. 4790k@4.4GHz, 16GB 2400MHz DDR3, 500GB 850EVO SSD, GTX 1080 should have no issues with these games. I’ve played every Forza religiously since the first, but if they can’t perform smoothly on PC there is no way I’m buying an XOX just for a game or two. I already did that with my day one X1, which I keep around for FM6 and Halo MCC. After I got to a point where I had spent 20 hours playing Apex and 40 hours troubleshooting it, I just gave up and don’t touch it anymore. FH3 is pretty much fine after its recent multi-threaded optimization patch, so there is hope for FM7 to incorporate that as well.
To be clear, the game technically runs at a locked 60 FPS with dynamic or manual settings but it is the constant yet unpredictable stuttering that ruins the experience. I’m going to let both FM7 and PCARS 2 come out this fall and watch them both before buying anything.
The stuttering could be an easy fix if you haven’t tried already. Go to the Nvidia control panel and under the “global settings” check your “power management mode”. You need to have it set on “adaptive” or “maximum performance”. The “optimal power” setting seems to be the default which was introduced in the drivers awhile back. It caused stuttering for me when playing. APEX runs butter smooth if this setting isn’t selected. I assume it hurts performance in other games as well. I check it every time I install new drivers because it usually wants to set it as the default to save energy, but it just ruins gameplay. I have mine on “adaptive” because it allows my card to randomly overclock when it calls for it if it can. “maximum performance” will lock your card to it’s advertised out of the box speed (not a bad choice either).
I can run apex just great and after i made this setting the micro stuttering that for some reason happens out of nowhere for no reason is completely gone. Thank you !
I tried on both my Pcs and even on the lower spec one with I7 - 4771 and an nvidia 980 the games runs stable with 59-60fps never any drops, this is on ultra 1920x1200, im not into the 4k hype. I was really wondering why the stutters because even then the FPS was stable glad its fixed now. Also Ive not ever experienced any crashes, i actually was amazed how well it is integrated in the Windows 10 interface, absolutely amazed how well you can alt+tab or simply scroll to the other monitor without any freezes.
But if you look at the Nvidia 900 most have specs over the Xbox one GPU, maybe im wrong but i really dont think there will be issues running Forza 7 on most machines with gpus from the Nvidia 900 series. And even if the game wont be as well optimized as it is on the Xbox the way better hardware might compensate for it. I really hope im right as i dont want to get an Xbox One only for Forza and I pre-orded it especially for my Pc.
APEX is practically the best performing title I own. It’s the only new title I can run with all settings and AA maxed at 4k and hardly ever see any dips below 60fps. I assume it must be very well optimized. I’m pretty confident Forza 7 will run the same and even if it doesn’t, I usually game at 1080p anyway so I’m golden. I have a 980TI with a 3.6ghz I7 4790 and 16gb of ram.
I have been running a GTX 750ti OC since before the Xbox One Launched. It is the same basic chipset that the console used in the first iteration. I don’t think it changed much for the S. It DEFINITELY got an upgrade for the X.
This tells me that APEX, which runs at around 8-15 fps on my PC at 4K resolution and low/medium settings, and 50-60fps at 1080p with medium settings, should put the new game in the same ballpark.
This also tells me, my 750ti’s days are numbered. There is simply no way that if I get Forza 7 for PC, am I going to be running it at sub-prime settings, when I am getting it mostly for photography.
While I wouldn’t doubt you can get great frame rates with most cards, and not have to sacrifice too much fidelity in graphics, the fine line between 30fps and 60fps, comes down to your preference on Resolution. Do you NEED ULTRA on your particles? I do. SHADOWS NEED to be Ultra… everything else, in my opinion, can be low if I don’t notice it immediately.
That said… If you need to upgrade your graphics card… and your power supply… why not just get a Xbox One X? If you are patient enough, I think there is even going to be a Forza Special edition XOX… would be perfect.
That doesn’t help me. I have Intel Core i3-7100, NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 and 8GB of RAM and the frame rate is very good at Medium and 1080p (above 100 FPS) but the stuttering at night tracks and on any other tracks starting from second race makes it impossible to play. The OS is also very laggy when I quit from game. It’s some resource leak (maybe VRAM) I think. I’ve uninstalled that game. If Forza Motorsport 7 would have similiar issues I don’t think people will but it.
Ok. Now everything is fine. I’ve changed power management option in NVIDIA control panel for just this game to “Prefer maximum performance” and also set performance level in game settings to “60 FPS (V-SYNC)”. Now I have no stuttering in Forza Mototrsport 6: Apex on NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 2GB, Intel Core i3-7100 and 8GB RAM. Thank you very much.
Be aware the PC version though is still pretty rough though. They have put out some patches to deal with some issues affecting both PC and XBOX, but haven’t directly addressed the PC version yet. It is still quite playable, but you will lose car paint jobs for no reason, hard crash if you play too long, the game will quite often give you an error message that the MS Store thinks you don’t own the game, don’t expect much if you have a 21:9 monitor(the game itself during races can be set to full screen), but the whole rest of the game won’t work at 21:9 replays.etc, it doesn’t play well with some software firewalls so you will have to disable it and there is currently no way to share race content(other than pictures) outside the game, there’s more but those are the big-ticket items, for me anyway.
If Can You Run It says you can run it then I would say go ahead and buy it. It is still fun despite the issues and I’m sure(fingers crossed) they will get fixed eventually. If you can deal with issues till patches for the pc version starts rolling out, you will enjoy the game. If you are the type where those kinds of issues ruin the game for you, I would hold off and watch the forum for when the PC issues start getting dealt with and if there is positive feedback from the forum about the updates.
I have a i7 6700k, 32GB DDR4 ram, Geforce GTX 1080ti FTW3 and it runs quite well 70% of the time with the issues above filling the 30% and like I can say I can mostly deal with those, sometimes it pushes back to Project Cars 2 or Gran Turismo out of frustration, but I keep coming back for now.