IS there any balance to this car at all or is it supposed to just be way faster than everything else? I have yet to see anybody come close to this car, maybe I’m missing something? Any clues on what can compete with it?
Pretty many a-class car actualy can compete with bone shaker, track that i use testing bone shaker time is 58,559 and i have 11 a-class car that drive that lap under 59s and bone shaker dont even have best time.
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I’ve had hard time with this car aswell, I’m glad someone is finally bringing it out on forums. Altho in my opinion it’s not really the speed that’s the problem, but that it also has really good grip and acceleration for A-Class. Generally in A-Class you kind of have to choose between grip or speed, but Bone Shaker seems to have both.
Feel free to share a couple, only car I’ve been able to match the speed with is Honda S2000, but it loses in turns because lack of best tyres. I’ve also seen Shelby Daytona being able to contest it, but that car is still out of budget for general players.
Whats your test track if you don’t mind me asking? I’m sure there are a few tracks where it’s not the best, like the super tight city track with 100’ straights (can’t recall the name), but anything where you can get out of 2nd gear it flies. Closest I’ve come is with the Porsche 718.
I use that circuit that is next to bamburgh castle. And my best time in that track is with lotus 111s that is really bad in straight line speed, so in circuits like horizon festival circuit lotus would be even mutch mutch faster than bone shaker. And bone shaker feels also really heavy to drive so it’s awful to drive long period of times.
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I’ve never driven it, they want 20,000,000 credits for one in the auction house which is way more than I’m willing to spend.
The 718 sounds pretty similar to the 111s, it tops out about 160 downhill but out maneuvers everything else with ease. Give it a try if you haven’t, I’ll be trying the lotus for sure!
I’ve also had good luck with the sprite mk1 “smiley face” car.
Remembering your post, I was quite pleased to make an A class build that I did 58.0 with on Bamburgh Coast Circuit. Then I tried the Bone Shaker and did 57.8 without changing the build at all, so it still has 5 PI points I can use to improve on that.
Edit: making use of the 5 PI points to good effect proved quite tricky, and it took me quite a few iterations to significantly improve on that 57.8. I eventually did 57.1, though. But I probably did a total of 30 laps, and if I spent as much time with the car I did 58.0 with, I’d probably manage to get it closer. But so far, the Bone Shaker is 0.9 secs faster than any lap I’ve done with any other car, around Bamburgh Coast Circuit.
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I got finally motivation to re-visit in bone shaker, i run totally stock build at 59.0, i change my orginal build and got 57.8 at first try (5lap) then bit tweaking and testing and bit more tweaking and i got 56.717 so 1,5s faster than any other my a-class car.
Rayne se do you have test talbot in a-class dirt races? For me that is best a-class dirt race car and delta is second.
Maybe i made bone shaker slower by using those 5 pi points insert smile face here These are the moments when i really wish we would have real rivals leaderboard so would have real motivation to make cars as fast as possible. I try stock bone shaker bit later to see who mutch slower time i get.
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I have to check, i have that porsche 718 tuned in a-class also and it’s not make even top 35 times in track (i have shared 35 a800 road racing tunes that are being fastest) But i remember that 718 was really good in handling just damn slow. I checked all of my tunes and find out that shelby cobra 427 have pretty similar power/weight ratio than bone shaker have.
Keep in mind that this car, if it stays in A with it, (I haven’t built it for anything but drag racing) can have upwards of 1400 hp. That combined with even the stock rear tire size make it an unbalanced car for the class.
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What kinda macig tricks you use to get 1400hp in a-class bone shaker when max hp that can get out is abaout 1375. Or did you mean 400?
Bone shaker was added so people spend their useless forzathon points.
I don’t mind it being in the game, but it should just not have been that competitive.
It breaks immersion and speaks to the crowd of “fortnite” kids, as many other things in the game.
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The very core of competitive play is structured in a way that breaks realism.
Lower classes (up to B) don’t suffer from this too much, as you can still build cars with the original engine and drivetrain and without aero. Starting with S1 class and some A class, though, in many cars you need at least aero to bump them up to the top of their class.
I don’t need to say how bad this is when most cars look bad with the Forza aero. Let’s take the Chiron for example: you put a cheap wing on top of the car to upgrade it to 994 or so, losing the active aero in the process. For someone who wants the feel of driving a virtual Chiron, adding Forza aero to it makes the magic go away in an instant.
But that’s not the full story, of course, since some cars also require engine swaps of varying realism in order to reach the magical round index. You might want to put a Viper engine where it shouldn’t be, or a Ferrari V12 engine on that Lamborghini, in the name of performance.
And finally, in rainy/snowy Britain, everyone is gonna need AWD conversion to prepare for any scenario. With AWD conversion you can use any power distribution you want, even make it RWD when necessary, at the cost of some added front weight. It’s the most OP upgrade in the game by far (with aero a distant second).
At this point, are the cars you build for multiplayer any different from the Bone Shaker? A V10 Mustang with AWD is as fictional as a Bone Shaker if you ask me. The V10 might fit in a real Mustang, but what about the front diff?
The whole upgrade system of Forza breaks the “immersion” you speak of. Not many cars in the game can be competitive when raced as they are out of the box. You can try to play it like TDU if you want to, but the moment you go too crazy with mods you no longer have any connection to reality. There’s no “immersion” to be broken anymore, since all of your cars are essentially Hot Wheels dressed in “realistic” shells. The Bone Shaker might even be the truest car here.
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I would like to know what immersion bone shaker breaks? And fortnite kids get horizon 4 just because there is bone shaker and dancing?
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There are cars that can outperform the Bone Shaker on certain tracks but it is one of the most versatile cars on A - maybe even the most versatile.
Lotus Elise 111s, Vauxhall 220 for grip-heavy tracks.
Honda NSX '05, TVR Sagaris, Morgan Aero for average road tracks.
Aston DBS (newer one), HSV GTS, Diablo SV for more power oriented tracks.
Subaru WRX '04/'05, Lancia Delta for AWD-tracks and dirt races.
As a regular Forza player above names shouldn’t be alien to you because they’re constant high-performers in Forza (except the Morgan I assume). But most of them need knowledge of how to build and tune cars correctly - especially the Elise, Vauxhall and Sagaris.
The Subarus can be tricky too because (from my testing) the strongest engine option is the WRX Rally Car engine but only after upgrading the crankshaft (something you would normally avoid) due to it changing the whole engine power graph.
The Bone Shaker requires nothing of therelike. It has all the stuff that makes cars competitive in Forza. Low weight, high base grip, high-rpm fitting engine, insane tire width, fitting stock gear box and strong aero. You don’t have to know much about tuning either for this car. It’s just naturally fast. Definitely the go-to car for beginners in A-class and competitive in nearly every situation in the hands of more advanced players.
Forgot to mention my best city circuit car: no-aero FWD Veloster N. But don’t get me starting of getting this thing built and tuned. It - for some arbitrary reason - has no race suspension upgrade and getting this thing working with rally suspension was a real challenge.
For grinding lap times, its one of the best.
Online - it doesnt stand out to me. I have no problem beating it and I am not one of those people that uses the best cars. I use the car I WANT to use and the car I WANT to build. I still come in top 3 regularly, 1st quite often. Its more about driving skill and crash avoidance than the car anyway, to be honest. I have missed the car selection screen a handful of times and been stuck with a non tuned pile and still manage to pull a decent finish.
Occasionally one of my tunes wont have the best top speed, and I will get a race with a giant straight at the end and have someone in an all power tune go blowing by me, but thats just the nature of racing :-D.
Got here after having 5 A Class Street Racing Team Adventures where bone shakers ALWAYS placed place 1-3. Not one of those places, all of them, by a wide wide margin.
I don’t have a problem with a car being better than others. I only have a problem if it’s no longer available to the public.
Maybe it’s due to that lack of availability, but I almost never see Bone Shakers in A-class races anymore. I’ve more or less stopped using mine–it’s really boring to win handily against everything except other Bone Shakers, and since I hardly ever race against them these days, it also doesn’t feel very fair.
Bone shaker in A class can be beat. Depends on who’s driving it and who’s competing against it.
I find tuning the thing to be a pain since you can’t get front downforce in A class. If you notice, a lot of people struggle with it in the turns unless they can master the E-break.
Just because it says Hotwheels does not mean there are not real life versions that can compete with your super cars.
These types of cars built street racing. And just like their real life counterparts, they have steering issues. I just haven’t found the right combo to get around that yet.
This could be the built in drifting that seems to be required in any vehicle in FH4. I may have to try it with a drift suspension to see if that helps the steering, I’m using racing springs onA class and rally springs on S1 class.