What cars that are born good? (Stock cars un upgraded and un tuned, testing)


I know some cars are better than others and that if you want to be competitive you need a good car, good build, good tune and the right car for the right car/class.

Now to know what cars are good to start with. Without looking at the leaderboards because that’s not fun and copying/cheating to some people.

Does anyone have a list of cars they tested in stock form at the same track with times (so I can know what cars are under and over PI valved)?

The best cars I’ve driven online in stock form are:

  1. Ferrari 250 Cali in D class. Once you get used to the body roll its pretty darn fast at most tracks. That’s the car I’d race when the lobby sucked.

  2. Holden HSV GTS or whatever its called in C was pretty good around speed tracks. It was the fastest at sebring but did well at nurb. Indy and Bathurst.

  3. Hyundai Genesis. Really loved it at nurb and indy. I was thinking about trying to get it top 100 with a build and tune around nurb but then I remembered how much I don’t like hotlapping the track.

Don’t have any.times but all were likely around top 500-600 I would think.

The Holden outta the box is absolutely great. Smooth and strong.

I’ve won a decent ammount of b class races online with a rented 99 viper it is very easy to drive

Was in a online race last night and everyone with a mic wanted to run stock rented Zonda Cinque Roadsters. That car is pretty damn nice stock in S class. Not surprising of course.

I just Finished testing all the d class cars.(stock) sorry for spelling.

Fastest to slowest
Subaru BRZ 29:11.630
Toyota GT86 29:17.875
Ferrair 250 Testa Rossa 29:25.070
BMW M3 29:28.901
Acura Integra Type -R 29:33.446
Afla Romro S2 Sprint Zagato 29:33.716
Impala SS 409 29:34.350
Ferrari 250 California 29:34.468
Honda Civic Type- R 2007 29:36.758
Dodge Dart 29:40.149
Escort RD Cosworth 29:41.276
Corvette ZR-1 29:41.789
Honda Civic Type R 29:42.863
Mazda MX-5 Cup 29:48.554
Corvette Stingray 29:50.323
Dodge Super Bee 29:53.138
SVT Cobra F 29:54.454
John Cooper Works 29:56.169
Civic Type – R 29:56.867
Dodge Charger R/T 30:00.073
Chervolet Carmoro IROC – Z 30:00.646
Citiroen DS3 Racing 30:01.599
Lancia Stratos HF Stradle 30:03.597
Mercury Cougar Eliminator 30:04.787
Celia GT – Four StZ05 30:06.978
Dodge Challenger R/T 30:07.751
Plymouth Cuda 426 HEMI 30:10.173
Ford Mustang Mach 1 30:11.516
Honda Civic Si 30:12.341
Javelin – AMX 30:13.900
Jeep Grand Cheoke SRT8 30:14.727
Chevy Camaro Z28 30:16.667
Abarth Punto Supersport 30:16.968
Chevrolet Corvett C 30:17.185
Chevy Chevelle SS – 396 30:17.502
Chevy Nova SS 396 30:20.523
GMC Syclone 30:20.951
Ford XB Falcon GT 30:21.739
Ford Mustang Boss 302 30:22.529
Fiesta ST 30:25.439
Chervrolet Nova SS 30:25.994
Mazda MX-5 30:28.401
Pontaic Firebird TramsAm SD 455 30:28.981
Hyndai Veloster Turbo 30:29.630
Eclipse GSX 30:30.548
Firebird Trams Am 30:32.226
Toyota Celica GT – Four RC STI185 30:34.577
Pontiac GTO Judge 30:35.065
Toyota Celica SS-I 30:36.931
Eagle Talon Tsi Turbo 30:39.139
Camoro SS Coupe 30:41.855
Chevelle SS- 454 30:45.303
Ferrari Dino 246 GT 30:48.593
Firebird Trams as GTA 30:51.654
Hurt/ Olds 442 30:53.626
Aston Martin DB5 30:53.712
Acura RSX Type -S 30:56.729
Renault S Turbro 31:01.327
Abarth 500 esseesse 31:02.929
Honda Civic CRX Mugen 31:10.080
El Camino ss454 31:12.546
Jaguar E-type 51 31:19.859
BMW 2002 Turbo 31:20.575
Ford Mustang GT Coupe 31:23.573
Abarth Fiat 131 31:24.511
VW Corrado VR6 31:25.016
Merc 300SL Gullwing Coupe 31:26.125
Mazda MX-5 31:28.621
Crevy Camro Z28 31:29.840
Toyota – MRLSC 31:31.017
Peugeot 308GTI 31:37.567
Nissan 240 sxse 31:37.757
Scion TC 2012 31:42.689
Lotus Eleven 31:43.042
Pontaic Firebird Trams Am 31:55.493
Toyota GT Apex 31:56.303
Nissan Skyline 2000GT-R 31:56.375
Honda Prelude S 31:57.192
Golf GTR 16v Mk2 31:57.414
Nissan Z 432 31:57.857
Mazda RX-7 GSL 32:07.537
Alfa GTV-6 32:19.242
Lotus Elan 32:21.011
Alfa GTA Stradale 32:28.477
Bel Air 32:31.752
Ford F-150 STV R Raptor 32:47.121
Ford Escort RS1800 33:07.369
KIA Ce’d 33:26.522
Alfa Spider 33:32.086
Ford Lotus Cortina 33:36.373
VW Rabbit 33:44.262
Astra 1.6 Tech Live Top gear 34:07.872
Ford Transit Van 34:16.310
Mazda RX-3 34:27.760
VW Scirooco S 34:34.191
Ford F100 35:06.173
Mini Cooper 35:11.476
Toyota Celica GT 35:14.101
Nissan Datsun 35:25.533
Hummer H1 Alpha 35:52.721
FIAT X1/9 35:58.391
GMC G-1500 36:55.846
De Luxe Couge 38:07.143
VW Beetle 39:18.261

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now that’s all and good but we don’t want to know how fast the car are because they all have different PI’s. I testing these cars on three different tracks. Indy GP for a bit of speed, Bernese Alps Club reverse for handling and Sebring short for acell.

The cars in D class that did good for its PI at Bernese Alps Club reverse are

Abarth Fiat 131
Mazda RX-7 GSL
Ferrari Dino 246 GT
Mazda MX-5
Ferrari 250 California
Afla Romro S2 Sprint Zagato

The cars in D class that did good for its PI at Sebring short are

Toyota GT Apex
Chevy Camro Z28
Pontaic Firebird TramsAm SD 455
Chevy Camaro Z28

The cars in D class that did good for its PI at Indy GP are

Alfa Spider
Chevy Camro Z28
Hurt/ Olds 442
Ferrari Dino 246 GT
Chevy Camaro Z28
Ferrari 250 California

The cars in D class that did good for its PI overall

Abarth Fiat 131
Ferrari 250 California
Afla Romro S2 Sprint Zagato
Chevy Camro Z28
Javelin – AMX
Alfa Spider
Dodge Charger R/T
Chevrolet Corvette C
Chevy Camaro Z28
Ferrari Dino 246 GT
Ford Mustang Mach 1
Pontaic Firebird TramsAm SD 455
Corvette ZR-1
Ford Mustang Boss 302
KIA Ce’d

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IF you want a good stock FWD car from D class its (in best to worst)

KIA Ce’d
Honda Civic CRX Mugen
Acura Integra Type -R

IF you want a good stock AWD car from D class its (in best to worst)

Toyota Celica GT – Four RC STI185
Celia GT – Four StZ05

Wow you must have been bored! lol. Forgot about the BRZ. That thing is quick at most tracks in stock form, but I think its a few points away from D400 so I guess that explains why.

C class is done.

Nissan 370Z
Chevrolet Correttle ZR-1
Ferrari 512 TR
Honda NSK-R
Ford Shelby GT500
Dodge Challanger SRT8 392
BMW Z4 sDrive35is
Audi RS Sportback LCE
Maseraiti Typo 61
Holdern HSV GTS
Ford Cobra R
Audi S3 Sedan
Merc A45 AMG
BMW 1 series M coupe
Chervolet Carmoro SS 2002
Nissan Skyline 2002
Ford FM Focus ST
Subaru Impeaza WRX STI 05
Subaru WRX STI 04
Ferrari 250 GTO
BMW M3 05
Honda NSX -R
Toyota Supra RZ
Mitsubitshi Lancer Evo VI
Maseraiti Gand Turismo S
Hyndai Genesis
Chrysler 300 SRT8
Roals Royce Wrath
Subaru 22B
Nissan Skyline GT-R 1993
Nissan Skyline 1997
Mitsubitshi Evo 8 MR
Mazda RX-7
Aston Martin DBR1
Subaru WRX STI 2011
Maserati 8CTF
Subaru WRX STI 08
Nissan Fairlady Z
Dodge Charger SRT8
Honda S2000 CR
Mitsubitshi Evo X GSR
Infiniti OPL G Coupe
Audi RS 3 Sportback
VW Golf R 2010
Ford Focus RS
VW Scirocco
Infiniti Q505
Pontiace Solslice GXP
Merc 190E 2.5-16
Lambo Muria P400
Audi RS 2A Avant
Audi sport Quttro
Firebird Trans Am Ram Air
Ford SVT Cobra R
Lancia 037 Stradale
Lancia Delta S4
Lexus G5350 F Sport
Nissan Fairlady Z 1994
Nissan Silvia Spec – R
Ford Sierra Cosworth RS500
Jaguar D-Type
Buick GNSX
Vauxhall Astra VXR
Renult Sport Clio V6
Mazda RX-8 R3
Renalt Megeene RS 250
Ford ST
Toyota MR2 GT
VW Golf R32
Ferrari 365 GTB/4
Alfa Giuliutta
Dodge SRT4 ACR
Mazda Mazdaspeed
MINI John Cooper Works GP
Peugot 205 Turbo
Merc G65 AMG
Land Rover Range Rover

Now I also do a list of how good the cars are for their PI. Best ones at top

Lambo Muria P400
Chervolet Carmoro SS 2002
Honda S2000 CR
Merc 190E 2.5-16
Ferrari 250 California
Abarth Fiat 131
Subaru BRZ
Holdern HSV GTS
Nissan 370Z
Afla Romro S2 Sprint Zagato
Ford Cobra R
Ferrari 512 TR
Honda NSK-R
Ford Sierra Cosworth RS500
Ferrari 250 GTO
Firebird Trans Am Ram Air
Nissan Fairlady Z
Infiniti Q505
Chevy Camro Z28
Hyndai Genesis
Chevrolet Corvett C
Javelin – AMX
Toyota GT86
Dodge Charger R/T
Aston Martin DBR1
Chevy Camaro Z28
Alfa 33 Stradale
Infiniti OPL G Coupe
Acura Integra Type -R

Great work - I used to do this kind of thing in GT4 when I went back to being a student for a while and had free time once again.

I still do similiar in FH2 but not quite as thorough or diligent as this - it’s a great way to really get to know the cars and tracks and get a good appreciation for their strengths, weaknesses and all 'round characteristics.

Good stuff!