We need unicorns and events!!!

Hello;
I understand that the game is now dated , but even if it is sold , this means that the services should be offered again … but in a year and a half of forza I never had the opportunity to participate in an event for a unicorn .

Then there are things in the way in which the game is structured cone a little disappointed , but I will not complain but just be proactive

But structuring the game from the outset that to complete it 100% you must buy expansion packs … it was better to raise the price before and you did complete

hoping for a more serious on the sixth chapter … Meanwhile, I keep the four incomplete

greetings

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In a community created of like-minded players such as Forza, companies would be wise to listen to those within the community that are not happy. Case in point, Turn 10 is no longer supporting the unicorns for a game that is four years old, which makes since. However, their are thousands within the FM4 community who are upset at the decision to no longer support their unicorns saying four years is long enough to get them and if you didn’t get them then its the consumers fault. May I suggest a different plan of attack that doesn’t cut off a huge portion of the community that Microsoft and Turn 10 have spend more than a decade building.

I have a brain injury caused from an automobile accident 4 years ago, causing impaired playing skills and slowing the game down to an painful level. In the roll over I hit my head several times causing a condition known as Post-Concussion Syndrome. With more falls that came over the next very months, I spent Christmas in the hospital and was diagnosed with Traumatic Brain Injury, or TBI. I have worked very hard to get my vocabulary back, since I am a preacher, but I am hindered physically so I cannot move as much as I did before the accident. POINT OF ALL THIS: Forza Motorsports 4 has helped with my fear of cars, crashing, drifting on ice (which caused the original accident). I cannot play as fast as other players, my online persona is hard to get across thru blogging, and I certainly cannot draw as well as some of the beautiful cars I’ve seen in the past year of unicorn give away contests. So I came up with a plan that I think is a win-win for the entire Forza Community, including Microsoft and Turn 10.

Instead of no longer stopping the support of the unicorns, sell them as DLC through Microsoft points. EXAMPLE: A person needs 6 unicorns to finish their collection, so this person goes to Walmart or buys points online for $60 dollars. Then he goes to the Forza Store to redeem his $60 dollars in points and then buys $60 dollars worth of unicorns for FM4. The player still gets their unicorn, Microsoft sells the DLC Unicorn for $10 dollars worth of points, which the player needs to buy from a point source (Walmart or XBOX 360) which gives Microsoft another $10, so in total Turn 10 gets $20 dollars for a $10 car. To speed the process, since supporting unicorns is a sore spot it seems, make the promotion last for an extremely short time. Announce it know, or as soon as you can, and end the promotion at the end of May or June. You can sell the cars in packs or as individuals and this way Turn 10 has made it possible to get the cars that players like my self of tried to get through writing on blogs, sending pictures of cars that will never be seen because of all the great artists in OUR community, and it short so Turn 10 can get the unicorn monkey off its back in a special, supportive, and creative way. Instead of just cutting us loose and saying oh well, which sends a nonchalant message to millions of buyers and billions of dollars.

If it wasn’t for Microsoft and Turn 10, the healing process from my TBI would not have been as fast as other sources of therapy. I have learned to deal with car flips, uncontrolled spinouts, eye/hand coordination, and reading. I know have magazine subscriptions of car mags to understand everything from understeer to dampeners and why torque is more important than just lots of horsepower. I even have a Forza Tuning Calculator downloaded so when I tune, I tune correctly. PLEASE consider my proposal as a possible solution to the thousands of unicorn lovers looking for them before they are gone forever.

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In the past T10 sent out several Unicorn Cars via the Rewards program - don’t get too excited, I am NOT talking about recently. It’s been a really long time since any car appeared as a reward, let alone a Unicorn Car.

If you’re signed in, click on the “REWARDS” tab at the top of the page.

Selecting “REDEEM REWARDS” - I see that in the past I had been rewarded a 1998 Nissan R390, 2002 Nissan MINE’s R34 (Unicorn), 2002 BMW M3-GTR (Unicorn), 2006 Mitsubishi HKS Time Attack Evo (Unicorn), 1998 Toyota Top Secret Supra (Unicorn), and 2010 Ford Shelby GT500 (non-unicorn, not the 2007 GT500 unicorn). Two Tokens. And, most often, most typically, in game CR (it does not seem to track CR rewarded, but I’d guess 10’s of thousands in game CR)

I get that the Unicorns are supposed to be rare, but… I cannot remember the last time a unicorn car was rewarded!

I’m here to tell you, I know it’s possible - I know I wouldn’t mind seeing another unicorn rewarded rather than the 40k or so in games CR - heck, many here would like to land just one!

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If you’ve had FM4 for a year and a half, then you missed out on your chances, because at that time there were still numerous ways to win unicorns.

At the risk of sounding harsh, (which is certainly not my intention), those who have come late to the party and expect to reap the same benefits and rewards from a game that is nearly four years old AND nearly two years after the next release are simply being unrealistic. Most companies like the COD franchise completely abandon a game once the next edition comes out. Oh, the servers are still active and you can still play it, but there is no new content, and you can hack, glitch, mod , and cheat to your hearts content. They simply don’t care. Try playing COD WAW. It became totally unplayable online with the modding after the next game was released. The fact that we still have this forum, can still run our races in FM4, and people still get banned regularly for cheating almost four years later shows the level of commitment T10 has to it’s loyal fanbase.

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This^^^. I’ve had Forza since day one and let me tell even then getting unicorns wasn’t a real struggle it just took participation from contests, games with devs, rewards, being V.I.P, Christmas gifts and even just simply posting answers in a forum question, at one point John was giving out all the unicorns by simply messaging him on facebook(or so I’ve been told) so if you had the game when the cars were being given for basically nothing and you missed out on that then I am truly sorry but it is what it is. I understand that people came late heck there are people still showing up as we speak but this is a 4 year old game and at some point the devs have to focus on the bigger and better for us the community and as stated you can’t come to the party late and still expect a full bar

just be glad unicorns are a thing of the past and pray they stay that way.

I have never heard “the devs” say it was a burden (or anything at all on the subject come to think… ) - why are you speaking for them? Let them say it’s a burden - or whatever - I will remain skeptical. They, these developers already went to the trouble to develop (that’s them, the developers, right?) an automated rewards system that is capable of distributing the desired things, unicorn cars. One could assume this is not a burden, not requiring any additional work or effort… Or, if this is so old and nobody cares - why not go ahead and re-activate the unicorn auction tab? There’s a less appealing option, but an option that one could assume would require little to no effort none the less.

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Fully agree on this one Leek. It would be nice to see Unicorns for Rewards. I still redeem my Rewards monthly, 60,000 Credits on FM4 and Horizon but why not do a Unicorn a month. I have a full set and I am not of the elitist attitude that only a few people should have them. Yes there were opportunities recently and we tried to let people know of this by posting in the appropriate Thread but we no longer have Unicorn Support so there is nothing more to post there.

Here’s a simple fact, there is no official guidelines on how long a software company has to maintain full support of its online content. Having said that, you can certainly still by FM4 brand new and you can even Download the VIP DLC which basically mentions Gift cars by Turn 10 (that’s not and exact quote I’m just paraphrasing) but apparently those Gift cars are no longer being given out. I haven’t gotten one in almost 2 years and that last one was a Scion FR-S with a custom Livery and Tune I believe.

Anyway, this is a debate that can go on and on and we can compare it to other games and software companies and how they do things but until Legislation is passed on how long Software companies must fully support their products online features we are stuck with when the company sees fit to discontinue features. The best thing for now I think is to start giving out Unicorns through the Rewards program this way people still have to do something to get them but at least they will be able to get them. I seriously doubt that would require much from T10 to do since it has been done in the past.

What does the Community think? Should Turn 10 Gift Unicorns through the Rewards Program if there are no other opportunities to get them?

No one said it was a burden for them just saying it’s time for them to move on from it and focus on the next installment of the game for us the community which is what they are doing. Sending out unicorns and putting them on the auction house takes time away from them that could be going to other game development.

Look I’m sorry you missed your chance at unicorns I really am but as a consumer you know support has to end at some point and the dev’s that have been doing this for nearly 4 years feel it’s that time and you just happen to be on the short end of the stick in that regard.

Sooner or later the dev are also going to say times up on the Forza 4 servers altogether so rather than worry about the unicorns I say just play and enjoy the game while you can cause Forza 6 is fast approaching

With all due respect Kouki how much time do you think it takes to make a change in a system to Reward a Unicorn instead of Credits? I imagine (because I don’t work at a software company but I do know simple Data Entry) that it takes one person to go to the proper workstation, go into the Rewards distribution database (or whatever T10 calls it) and change the “Credits” to “Unicorn car”. Maybe that’s not how simple it is but seriously does anyone honestly think it takes a whole team of developers a week to make what seems like a simple change?

I also keep hearing the rumors swirl around that we have the rest of the year before FM4 is done. That is one more reason to do what seems like a simple “Good Will” gesture to help “The Forza Communtiy” stay interested in current and future Forza Games.

I completely agree with you on playing and enjoying the game for what it is, after all that is the point of games, but when consumers feel like they’re missing features or being ignored it can affect their enjoyment and future purchase decisions.

These Threads asking for Unicorns keep popping up and I see the same few people saying “sorry you’re too late” but seriously these Threads will continue until FM4 is completely done. So I ask again; What does the Community think? Should Turn 10 Gift Unicorns through the “Rewards” Program if there are no other opportunities to get them?

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I’m assuming you were here when they were going out unicorns as rewards and when they promptly stopped doing it because it was sending out blacked out unicorns that had problems, you were here for that am I correct? There was some kind of problem in the beta/system so they stopped doing it and decided money was a better option and even still continued to hand out unicorns so why would they nearly 2 years late just not try and fix that problem?

Yup and to those people I do feel truly sorry but there are always going to be those people even when full support for Forza4 is gone there will be those people who think they missed out on something and feel the need to be satisfied because they made their purchase.

The community that has been here is going to give the same answer, it’s just time to stop and even the Devs feel that way which is why they did. There will never be a right time for them to stop giving out unicorns because someone will always be a day, hours, minutes, seconds late and will continue to make these threads until this forum is shut down. It sucks but the decision has been made and now it’s just time to live with it or move on.

I’ll lay my cards on the table. I wasn’t around for when T10 gave out Unicorns through the Rewards program. I have been playing FM4 for just over 2 years now and didn’t really realize the online community for a while after I started playing. I didn’t even start posting seriously until sometime last year. I am fortunate enough to have all the Unicorns so I’m not even arguing about gifting them out for myself as I don’t need them. For those that don’t have any Unicorns I will also say that some are great from a usable stand point while there is at least one that seems mostly useless (to me anyway).

Kouki, I get that you would like people to move on from the Unicorn thing but they keep posting. I get that you were here from Day 1 unlike so many others who for all sorts of reasons were not. The one thing I don’t get is how do you know what the Developers do or don’t have time for. You are speaking on their behalf but do you know someone at Turn 10? If so why don’t they post in the Unicorn Opportunities Thread saying “Sorry, we’re done with Unicorns and this is why…” I know that won’t happen and the simplest reason is “They don’t have time to respond to everything”.

Kouki, I totally respect you as you always seem very helpful and friendly to the community in your posts so please don’t take anything I’ve said as an attack on you. This is probably the only thing I disagree with you on FM4 wise.

DamMe2006, you’re right about the OP with the year and a half of no opportunities to get a Unicorn. Last year I got a bunch from Opportunities posted in the Unicorn Thread weekly, plus up until March we had opportunities to get a Complete Unicorn set that we posted about in the Unicorn Thread. I also agree about the silly Achievement for using a Kinect, I certainly wouldn’t spend the money just for that.

To those wanting Unicorns, other than e-mailing Turn 10 to ask that they bring them back or Gift them or whatever, posting in the Forums is probably not going to help. I get it, we all want our voices to be heard but if no one from Turn 10 reads our posts it is pointless. What I’m saying is start e-mailing Turn 10 and be kind, clear and brief in your message. Who knows, maybe you’ll get a Unicorn or maybe just an automated response with no further contact. Either way, you’ll never know until you try.

Lastly, this is Forza not Call of Duty: The Constant Search for more Money. Lets hope Turn 10 helps the newcomers or procrastinators, whichever the case may be, so we can stop seeing these posts.

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I say that because it actually does take time away from them to send these cars out. They are sending out unicorns during their own free time either at work or at home and we know this from “game with devs” days when some devs would stay late to help everyone one get a unicorn and make sure they got them that day in some cases or show up late because they were working on fixing Forza 4 for us. It takes time to go over every request and then send the cars out and with 4 being the furthest thing form their minds and having to deal with 5 and creating 6 it’s just common sense. A truthful answer from them is going to be the same thing we are telling you and everyone else “it’s just time to move on and focus on the new” and their reason for that will be there own which will all go back to time(either they don’t have it, or tired wasting it on a older game).

When I say I feel sorry for those that have missed out I do truly mean it but support for this game has to and will end and even for us first day folks it’s going to be the wrong time for them to end it, we know this and the devs know this too and trust me they know it upsets people but that’s just how it goes.

No offense taken as healthy debate keeps these forums alive and lets out voices be heard.

I don’t really mean to be a… but - you know this? are you one of the folks who was doing this in your “own free time”? are you a drinking buddy of one of “the devs”? what you’re saying, making-up(?) excuses for… sounds a bit too, well, made-up for me to just say - Well, Ok… if that’s how it is :^(

So, they tried to make an automated system and, according to you, that was a FIAL - again, nothing official - it just stopped. Either they don’t want to admit to being poor programers or they don’t want to support an “old” game? …got any other reasons you can come up with for “the devs”?

all good things come to an end - I get it, but no reason to… just leave without “closure” - it’s like a bad breakup where someone just goes away, leaves no forwarding address, and won’t return your calls.

my “argument” if you can even call it that is NOT with you, Black 97 Kouki - I am just using your defence of “the devs” (fanboyism? or do you really know?) to make my point - T10, Is it really that hard? Really? Or are you really just that done with FM4?

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We know this because they told us during the games with devs days. All the gifting that was done for those days and forum comps was during their free time and seeing as that was when this game was at it’s peak what makes you think it’s changed now when the game is on it’s way out?

Yes they did try and it failed and anyone who received the unicorns from that beta period knows about it so if they couldn’t get it to work then I don’t really see them wasting time on it now. Plus they were still giving them out the old fashion way so there was no need to try and fix the problem.

What more closure is needed? The dev’s felt it was time to stop so they did, they even said they were stopping so I don’t know what more is needed because their reasons are going to be their own.

Not really being a fanboy I just understand that this game is old and time for them to move on, Forza 5 is still riddled with problems that need to be fixed and Forza 6 is fast approaching, I mean come on man it’s time for them to move on and spend their free time doing something more productive for our future purchases.

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What part of there exists (yes, I assume) an automated system(?) - aka the Rewards Program that can, and has in the past, gifted cars to include unicorn cars.

BTW, I am not asking for myself, specifically (I have several, all on one game save, but none on Horizon… first world problems and all that) - I am however continually amazed that T10 doesn’t… even though I continue to see these posts… and folks make excuses for “the devs” while “the devs” say NOT-A-THING and… and…

But, really, - at least the servers are still on! (and they work most of the time) and we can still race on-line!!! and we still have our storefronts. and an auction house…

it’s just that it is mystery to me - why cause any animosity over something like gifting unicorn cars when it is (again, I assume - until someone at T10 says otherwise) an easy, automated fix.

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This part of the Op’s post caught my eye - I just find it a little odd coming on to the forums to complain that the support for Unicorns has stopped, when not two months ago I won a complete set from an ‘event’ on these very forums.

I believe in the year and half prior to that time, there will have been numerous opportunities to earn a unicorn through interaction on here, however for whatever reason, as soon as support for those competitions is withdrawn we have people posting bring back unicorn support - I’m afraid for those that have been aware of the forums and didn’t take advantage of the comps when they were there, well it’s a little late to complain about it now it’s gone.

It may well mean you can’t get all the achievements in the game - I don’t own Kinect & am not going to buy it just to get 5 cheevo points. Should I start a thread?

As has been said before, the unicorns aren’t necessarily the fastest cars in the game, they were designed to be rare, sought after cars (because they were rare).

The auctioning of them has and pretty much will always be a trap to lure out credit glitchers, so the only real way to get one or the set was through interaction with the community.

This strengthened T10’s user base, encourages people to buy in to the game early (more chances to earn one) - so from a marketing point of view I should imagine just giving them out either as paid dlc or forza rewards doesn’t make a whole lot of sense. I could almost see them doing it through the rewards system but only for those above a certain level, so again meaning you’ve got to have paid/ played their games to earn enough of a level to qualify.

That being said, these forums are frequented by the community & infrequently by T10. So the comments you get are from the end users not the people in the know. Try PM’ing one of the community managers or e-mailing the team if you have a good argument why the support should continue - even if it’'s just a last hurrah in unicorn terms. Problem is if they do that, there’ll still be people who missed out on that & will ask for another chance.

a blacked out Unicorn! those are super rare!!! Where can I get one of those!?!?!

Yea, at least one of mine (the MINE’S if I’m not mistaken ;^) was all black - drove just fine, the achievement some are looking for worked just the same - you could always paint it. or sell it back to the game, in game obviously, not on the auction house…

I also received others via the Rewards program that were not black, were perfectly normal - I assumed “the devs” fixed that glitch; the black ones were among the first as I recall.

I’ve got no skin in this, nothing personal… - I only chimed in to try and lend support to those asking… and not receiving any official word from on high. IMO, marketing geniuses - they are not.

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Haha yea my MINE’S work fine and it was fun to show it off blacked out but then I got my HKS EVO and upgrades didn’t work and it couldn’t be painted and then when unicorns showed up in the rewards it never got sent to me then they were just gone altogether.

As long as the servers are still active for this game, EVERYTHING SHOULD STILL BE ATTAINABLE, 4 year old game or not. It can’t be that hard to make unicorns still available somehow or another to late-comers. We’re talking giving out cars, not building clocks. Just my 2 cents.

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It should not matter how old a game is, you should be able to get the full experience of the game. For example I am late on buying Forza 3 and would like to have some of the cars that were part of a car pack that is now end of life. I hope turn 10 can do something like sell a new game pack that has Forza 2,3, and Forza 4 with all cars including those from past car packs and also unicorns, so that way at least from Forza 2 to Forza 4 people will be able to get all cars and tracks that were ever created for those games.

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