We need logos. We need them bad. (Livery Editor)

One of the biggest aspects of livery design is logos. Whether it’s a full race car stickered in them or a simple track build with one or two, they completely change the vibe of a car.

Unfortunately, the pre-set decals Forza offers aren’t just unsatisfactory, they’re basically unusable. From meaningless, niche selections (like the Xbox logo) to terrible logo design (The Porsche logo has a white box around it, like it’s a JPEG) they are far from ideal for being used in liveries.

Yes, there is a vinyl creator. No, I’m not spending six hours painstakingly replicating an aftermarket logo that’s going to take up 2% of the car. No, I’m not going to use other’s logos which look inaccurate, terrible, and also immediately lock the design from being shared.

So for the love of everything racing games, for Horizon 6 PLEASE have a wide, varied, and extensive roster of real world performance brand logos we can use on our car liveries. HKS, Eibach, TOYO, all of these performance brands already appear on pre-tuned cars in the game. Let us use them on our own cars.

They need to be well made and tweakable. They need to be black or white by default preferably with options to recolor them. They need to be properly shaped and formatted (many in 5 are squares or circles when they don’t need to be, the ideal logo for liveries needs to fit within a rectangle)

this is one of my biggest (yet simple) requests for the new game. PLEASE.

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also, i’d like to have multiple logo options for the same brand, for example when using a Ferrari logo, you should have the option to place just the horse, just the text, or the actual badges that go on the cars

Hey there this is an awesome post and I completely understand your frustration. As a painter working in the livery booth creating vinyls can take hours and when you finally feel like you got it figured out you need to make another vinyl….. and the endless cycle repeats. That being said realistically this might not be as simple as you may expect.

Licensing of each manufacturer logo to be inserted; just because it appears in game as a functional body part/logo doesn’t mean that its fully licensed. I.e. imagine using the toyo tire branding in a ugc format slapping it on the car and then saying this other brand is better. Having that ease of access might hurt the company more than anything. So having it as just a branded part where it would be much harder to hurt their image would be easier. Licensing is an extremely complicated and lengthy process.

I know a few different companies and even my college as an example that you have to buy rights to use a specific logo legally. These logos cannot be tampered with in any regard. Even goes to the extent of saying they must have a specific size range (cant be to small or to large), must have a specific background (cant have anything that takes it away from the logo/harms the logos integrity), and under no circumstances are you allowed to alter the color of the logo. I know one person I have talked to about a decal mentioned that it has to be sourced to a approved source. Even if you comply with all of the legal documents regarding it; if all the sources are not approved it falls through.

I am not a developer nor do I have any experience with how licensing works in this game. I could only imagine how much of a nightmare it could be with experiences I have ran into with things over time. Main things that stood out to me that would more than likely be a issues is the background behind the image, possible alterations of brand name, sources of where the logos can be placed (getting approval from every manufacturer to allow that brand to officially be able to be placed onto a car), choosing of specific companies that doesnt interfere/compete with other companies to possibly hurt agreements/close doors for opportunities in the future, or even something as small as forced sizes/aspect ratios that Forza wouldn’t be able to comply with (we all know that forza can allow manufacturer logos to get so small/large you cant recognize it anymore). This isnt even to mention anytime a logo was to change how they would have to take time away from other tasks to focus on making sure the logos are not outdated.

Licensing is like a grandfather clock with a lot of cogs to make it function. Even the slightest slip up and those cogs will not work and the clock will stop functioning as well.

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