Want an answer about those Drivatars - I got one from Dan [post #90]

Now this is what a community is all about, the man himself posting, please I know your a busy guy but stay in touch and chat with your fan base.

And your polite reply is very much appreciated.

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Well so that explains my “expert” race where the the #1 drivatar posted a laptime time 21 seconds faster than the 2nd place one. And 30 seconds faster than another AI driving his same car model.

Was that actually Dan posting??? If so…NICE!!! Thanks for clearing it up!

I sounded bitter in my first post…I’m not. I love Forza. I love the feel I get when I play it. I’m trying to do my part to help this game be better for everyone not just me.

Really, if they can fix the Drivatar AI, add some more options in Free Play and (for you online people) add some hoppers, this very well WILL be the best Forza game ever.

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[Mod Edit - Abbreviated profanity, profanity and profanity that is disguised but still alludes to the words are not permitted - D]

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“I refuse to play online in any game.”

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“You just lost a customer T10”

If you don’t have the game and don’t intend to get the game, just what are you doing here? It’s time to stop trolling.

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I’ve actually enjoyed racing the drivatars so far, the only times I’ve come up against really quick ones, happened to be from friends who are genuinely quicker than me in real life. They’ve usually started mid pack like me, so I’ve been able to follow them through the pack and either overtake them or just accept they’re quicker than me (which in reality they are!).

Been loving my fm6 experience so far, long may it continue, thanks

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Please for the love of jebus dont nerf drivatars!

If you cant beat them, you arent fast enough, you have a multitude of options ranging from changing cars, learning to tune, learning to drive or just turning down the difficulty.

Here’s an Experiment for the community;

Do the same race through turn 2 a bunch of times in a row trying to drive clean. Each time pause and write down the cars position at start and after 2 turns.

Seeing a pattern yet? Pole position is a thing for a reason. Motorsports have qualification days for a reason.

Then finish the race and compare the laptimes of the drivatar to the their human counterpart and the top 10 drivers in the world. Do you still think they are bugged and pulling away because of some shenanigans? or maybe it’s because you are stuck in traffic and pulling lap times 5+ seconds slower because of it while the terrible AI is just consistently pulling away with terrible lap times you should be able to beat even in traffic.

You can’t l honestly believe the car that got through turn one unscathed with nobody at his sides is pulling away because of a bug can you? have you ever even watched motorsports that dont involve ovals before?

Totally agree. This is the most fun ive ever had racing the drivatars. I am playing on pro and have no issues reaching first place by the start of the second lap. They add to the challenge. Isnt it the whole point of the top 3 drivatars to be faster than the rest otherwise they would have no reason being in positions 1-3.

It almost sounds as if you lot want every drivatar to to have the exact same lap times.

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If only turning down the difficulty worked, all it lets you do is pass the pack to get into second quicker. Theres a thread somewhere where someone has posted the fastest time from new driver and Expert, the new driver drivatar was 6 or 7 seconds a lap quciker. Thats best time.

Nope clearly no issue there.

Just because you haven’t experienced it doesn’t mean it isn’t an issue, get gud really isn’t the answer to this.

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We’re not saying that they aren’t in front for a reason. The biggest experience I’ve had with this whole drivatar/AI thing has been attempting to finish the Nurburgring 125 where the lead car (#92 Rahal Letterman M3 GT2) is at PI 827 and running lap times that rival top leaderboard spots on Expert difficulty. I realize that I’m not a pro racer in game but that’s beside the point. To complete that race you MUST take 1st and its the only time I’ve ever had an issue on that track.

Edit: I just wanted to add, I have been racing in GT3/GT2 Endurance races on the Nurburgring since I first got FM3. In FM4 I peaked at spot #344 on the leaderboards in my #2 BMW M3-GTR. I’m consistently in the top 1% when hot lapping the ring, which is basically what I’m doing by the end of lap 1. If I can hang with the Rahal Letterman car in the race I talked about I’ll pass him in the pit, run a lap 6 seconds ahead of my best, and still get passed by him before the first Carousel. The solution isn’t “get better” or “get a faster car” or “learn how to tune” (especially since you HAVE to race Spec in showcases)

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Awesome! Dan himself posts to shove my foot in my mouth. I couldn’t be happier. I wish it didn’t take so much to solicit a response, but awesome nonetheless. I’ve been a jerk about some of this lol, so I’ll shut up now and see what the future holds…

Thank you, T10, for the response. I really appreciate it.

Great read folks !

Gotta LOVE a bit of FORZA :heart_eyes: I’ve had em all LOL and this one will be no exception

Can’t wait for Friday :wink:

Even booked time off work LOL should know better at my age Ha 50 !!!

Dan you Da’ Man :facepunch:

Great work TURN10 !

Turn 10 is everywhere until the game comes out… then they seem to be nowhere to be found.

That’s the only thing I have a problem with.

As far as Dan goes… im guesding he’s not worried about the forums. He’s much bigger than that as a whole. Hes got bigger things to worry about I’m sure. I bet most of T10 don’t even deal with him ever

If I had to guess I’d say it’s because they’re all probably working at max capacity dealing with launch issues, patches, etc.

Still, I think they could benefit from having someone JUST for PR to come in and explain what exactly they’re working on and all that. Heck, I wish I could do that.

Angry rant removed. Figured if I couldn’t say anything nice about the guy than better nothing at all.

If that’s the case make those achievements FINISH FIRST, be finish 3rd. Don’t give me that excuse.

I don’t see a need in nerfing them either it makes it fun.

I just have an issue with them turning corners like they are riding rails, some not even braking, leaving no smoke, or tire prints on the road as they fly past you on turns as if they are locomotives on a railroad track. Issue didn’t exist in 5, that I recall. But none the less is a great challenge, I race on pro only.

[Mod Edit - thread merged, read post #90 - MM]
I have a problem with the drivatars system on the Forza Motorsport 6. The issue is that when I’m doing the races there is one or two drivatars that will go faster than all the other cars despite the difficulty setting. I have it on new racer in the drivatars difficulty setting and still one or two drivatars will pull away and I can’t catch them what so ever this needs to be fixed. It’s the same drivatars all the time. The drivatars will use your friends names but the thing is that the ones that pull away I know that person hasn’t played the game.

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What this man said. The new difficulty system is HORRIBLE.

A couple of T10 guys, even Dan G himself, have stated that they are working on this, and that it is a high priority. It’s even in this thread just a few pages back.