Unnecessary Exhaust Flames on Stock cars

Should cars like the Honda S2000 CR really be shooting flames in stock form? I’ve always found this to be really ridiculous and gimmicky especially in a Motorsport game. Would not have any issues if it happened in instances where a car was heavily modified, but not stock cars please, leave that to the Need for speed series or even perhaps the Horizon series.

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It’s the race fuel

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Flames were added in Fm4 and now its an issue?

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It has always been an issue if not implemented correctly. I assume you find it okay for cars like the S2000 in stock form to be shooting flames?

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I generally play from the cockpit perspective so I usually don’t notice this. However, all cars in career mode are modified to some extent. Street legal cars in their original factory specs should not shoot flames.

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I see it as an issue, when there are no flames. In one game I remember (GT or Forza, don´t know), there were no flames on stock and with a race exhaust there were. That was as it should be! There also was a difference in the sound after upgrades. Really cool, the engine even sounded “sharper” after upgrading the camshaft.

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I agree, that would be great if things were this way especially in 2017. It appalls me when people make mistakes for game developers like T-10, especially when they claim their product, Forza, is a class leading SIM racer. And in all honesty, I would like to see them own up to it, and be innovative rather than get comfortable on a platform that was great years ago, and has gotten very minor updates, with the more significant change being graphics while compromising aspects of the game that worked and were appreciated by fans.

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Has Turn 10/Microsoft ever actually made that claim?
I keep hearing people say it but i dont think Turn 10 have ever called their game a proper driving sim. They are more sim-like compared to games like Need for Speed and Ridge Racer but not on the same level as games like AC or PC2 and i dont think they have ever advertised it as such. They are more like Gran Turismo which is a game that presents itself as the “Real Driving Simulator”. Are people mixing these games up?

Very fair point you raise. I guess I have just held Forza to a really high standard, especially for the more obvious stuff that can be easily addressed.

Right. It seems like fans of the Forza franchise are applying attributes to the games that were never there.

Forza has always been an Arcade-Sim with mass appeal, not a dedicated hardcore driving sim. No one plays actual driving sims, at least not enough to sustain a franchise for 10+ years with 7 installments across multiple platforms.

EDIT: Yes, Gran Turismo could qualify for the statement above, but that series isn’t a true simulator the likes of other more dedicated series

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It’s a video game, nothing more regardless of how T10 advertises it. I think there are bigger issues that need to be looked. I didn’t even notice that stock cars didn’t this and I’m sure it will continue to go unnoticed as it really has no affect on me whatsoever. That’s just me though.

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Flames out of any exhaust is never unnecessary, :slight_smile:

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Unless the engine aint runnin’!

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None of my production cars shoot flames if I go back into the parts and manually put the stock exhaust back on.
Remember that the game installs parts automatically when you buy a car.

This is the answer. If you test drive rental cars in free play make sure to adjust the race setup to disallow upgrades to ensure the cars you drive are stock.

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It is an indisputable scientific fact that cars which shoot flames are superior to cars that do not shoot flames.

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And this…

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Its to make the car feel more human or alive or imperfect or whatever they were saying at E3. They basically watched someone’s low budget self built rattily old E30 3 series race car go around Sebring and decided that that is how every car is.

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There are some cars that are able to shoot flames out of the exhaust in stock trim. Most of the Ferrari’s and Lamborghini’s are able to do that without a problem due to their fuel system and ECU tuning.

However, I agree with OP, a factory spec Honda S2000 should not be shooting flames, unless it is genuinely broken (IRL).

Just another miss I suppose.

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I saw the Karmann Ghia shooting flames earlier…51 PS/37 kW!!!

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