Toyota Celica Sport Specialty II (T230) 2003 - Inaccurate car model (1786623)

This issue has persisted since the first Forza Motorsport on the original XBox, but in reality has gotten worse since Motorsport 2. The T230 Celica in Forza Motorsport has a genuinely horrible 3D model. It is deformed in pretty much all possible ways, and not a single aftermarket body kit fixes it to any extent.

Since it’s very difficult to find images of this particular body kit for the Celica, I will limit myself to just one picture with this kit, and use the standard Celica/Celica GT kit for other comparisons, as it does not change the body line.

Surprisingly, after 16 years of the Celica SS-II having dials of the 140hp 1ZZ variant, someone in Turn10 noticed that this is very much incorrect and modified the rev counter to unevenly display the correct amount of redline RPM. So it is now time to fix the rest of the model, which is very much deformed. The front bumper of this kit is not round enough and the air ducts are too square and too big. Really, all parts of the kit are just very low quality and have incorrect shape.


All other inaccuracies of the car don’t require using the factory SS-II kit, so I applied the GT-S kit for easier comparisons.
The entire car has incorrect shapes and dimensions. It is too tall, too short and very disproportionate. The front end is scaled wrong, with the lights being way too big, and the GT-S kit front bumper being not round enough and having inaccurate air duct shapes. The bumper itself has cutoffs in the wrong spots, and because of that front bumpers from any other 3D models of this gen Celica do not fit. The body line is just awful, the roof is too tall and the side line is not sharp enough, while the side windows don’t follow a single curved line. The wheels are disproportionately small, and the rims are unnecessarily painted chrome.


For clarification, the version used for comparison here is an EU market model, while the model in FM is supposed to be a Japanese market model, but the only difference between the two is the fog and reverse lights.
The GT-S rear bumper is shaped incorrectly, and so is the factory SS-II rear bumper. The whole rear end is too tall and too wide. Tail lights are shaped incorrectly, not round enough.


Overall, the 3D model of this Celica feels very dated. It’s disproportionate and low quality.


Plus, why the hell do we have to call it Sport Specialty II now, and not SS-II? Honestly, Forza’s censorship is an unnecessary joke!

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Not to mention the incorrect logo placement on all aftermarket front bumpers which has been going on since FM1

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A 2ZZ Celica with a 1ZZ Tachometer, how clever. That was the noticeable attention.

Same problem with calling various Chevrolet SS Cars as “Super Sport” by removing SS badges from them, as it persists since FM6.

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Here is the same car as it appears in the first Forza Motorsport

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The model in FH5 is the same, right? I would love to see the TRD Sports M version btw.

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Yes, Horizon and Motorsport shared the same assets altogether, even if the Development teams are different.

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Yeah ik just wanted to confirm cuz it looks different from the model in FH5. Maybe graphics settings/colour/lightning cuz I mean graphics are pretty similar between them. Don’t own FM so dunno.

This Celica was first seen in Forza titles as the USDM 1800 VVT-i in FM1, then its model is shifted into a JDM-spec SS-I, with the whole exterior model remaining the same.

Actually, it’s called the SS-I, as its meant to have the 1ZZ engine. From what I know, its Performance specs in Forza games are taken from the SS-II, which gets the 2ZZ engine.

That 187HP is the 2ZZ’s Power output (a.k.a. SS-II).

And for the whole car model, the FM1 shaped proportions still remained ever since. Despite its last appearance in FM6, it was not available in FM7 due to Toyota, Scion, and Lexus being absent.

On its return to Forza, it was new to Horizon starting with FH5. And what happens? The same exact model quality from previous FM titles is reused, and now it continues in the new FM.

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The proportions are narrowed, and the Side mirrors are too small. This is painful for today’s generation of games.

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And not to mention that the Marker lights on the Front bumper still remains as a USDM part. Since FM2-FM6, FH5-FM gets the car as a JDM-spec model, the JDM version of the exact same Celica gets different Marker lights.

So yes, this final-gen Celica is NEVER remodeled, as the Hood and Trunk weren’t openable. ZERO changes on this car model, sadly. It’s completely inaccurate.

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