not sure about your age but what if your brother was being a jerk under your account? if old what if a friend was drunk and decided that rather than shaving your eyebrows off they would play forza? most people play under what ever account is signed in. there is not way to be sure than banning someone from live is actually the person you were playing. what if someone steals you xbox and goes online with it? by the time you get the insurance money and a new xbox you could have a lifetime ban. then it wouldn’t quite be the good idea you thought it was. the theifs not goingto care if he gets you banned…and may even think its funny.
Control of your XBox and XBL account is your responsibility. If you leave yourself signed in when you know others are around and don’t have at least one guest account (they are free with the way Gold works on the XB1) then you pay the price for not controlling your account. If in the very unlikely event someone steals your XBox and causes you to get banned (and you have an actual police report to prove the theft), then work with Microsoft (they do have channels for this) to remove the ban.
If you live in a household with multiple people using the same XBox then you need to lay down ground rules as a group or get your own XBox if you can’t trust the others to behave responsibly online.
Precisely and many players know this but in the rules it does say you are responsible for your own account. If someone else is on the account that’s not MS’s problem. There are Security Measures you can set up on both the Xbox 360 and Xbox One to better ensure that no one will go on your account without you knowing about it. Setting the passcode on sign in for example is a good thing to do and simply be sure to sign out when you are not playing
The Xbox One’s Guest account for other players to simply play without needing an account is a nice feature and should help keep people off the main account
Banning is totally called for and well with in reason if you just running around wrecking and crashing people. Forza in a racing game and not a demo derby, the only game mode that promotes crashing is the tag lobby. If they want to crash and wreck people the go into the tag lobby and have fun. If your going into race lobby’s to troll then the ban is what you deserve. They all know ahead of time it’s against the rules and can get you banned so if they choose to ignore the consequence it’s their own fault and choice. Just like the hackers you wanna spend $600 bucks on a system and games just so you can cheat and break the rules then you deserve to have your system turned in too a worthless brick. Clean drivers should really be thankful that we have steps to take and the cheaters do get punished. I will never feel sorry for people who know the rules then decide to dig their own holes and burry themselves with their own actions. Self inflicted boo boo!
I agree my example may have been extreme but the principle still applies. You know the rules and if you choose to break them you are doing so at your own risk. They have tag and virus already and they are in a way crashing games yet these people choose to come into a lobby where crashing is frowned on. This is totally on purpose and it would not matter what the penalties are as dome people think they are untouchable, till banned then comes the crying aI was banned and don’t know why. I never do. Blah. Blah. Blah. I report and block and have over 100 people blocked and have pretty good success at clean lobby racing. Also realize that one instance won’t do much. As I understand it takes several offenses to initiate any kind of cisalpine from several people. If someone has a very bad day and takes it out in the racing once I don’t think they are going yo get banned. Now if said person does this 3-4 times per week at a few hours at a clip that will probably be different. I do like your idea of all crashers together in the same lobby and was I thought that was supposed to happen with the brew system however I have ran across a few orange reputation players and it say needs improvement. This is in a normal lobby . AI blocked and reported them and have not played against them since. Blocking does work quite well
I have always said banning people for wrecking is out of order, T10 should have a penalty system in the game that deals with wreckers rather than banning them…For me that is far to harsh when the game online is setup like an arcade game with no damage and no penalties.
Having paid for a console and a game does not exempt anyone from the Xbox LIVE Code of Conduct or grant them the rights to disrupt normal, fun game play.
Nope ban the trolls back to the cave they came from, why give them the right to mess up everyone else’s good time and get away with it? Don’t care who you are if you buy a game/system just to troll you need to be banned end of story.
Correct. There are racing incidents caused by whatever, and there are people who never brake going into corners, cut the inside of the apex to get an angle on and crash two or three cars rightfully taking the turn properly. There those who never complete a lap, instead cause the big pile-up on the first turn, and then driving the wrong direction to pick off the leaders when they come around, or just drive slowly or wait mid-way through the course as the leaders come around on their second lap.
People also immediately crash others before even crossing the start line, intentionally run anyone who attempts to pass them off the track, or brake-check people to bottle up the cars, and then ram them in the next turn. Or, the two or three “friends” who run side-by-side to slow down the entire field and wreck those they can reach.
We’re not talking “race incidents” here, folks. We’re talking about deliberately crashing people without an attempt at all to race around the tracks in a normal, competitive fashion. You all know what they do because you’ve seen it. Those types of people should be reported as I’ve mentioned in this thread before.
If you don’t report and block them, you are perpetuating the problem and condoning their actions.
Vote to kick, report them, block them. That’s the only weapon we have against fools.
The most fun thing to do out of retaliation, in my opinion, is to outwit and humiliate them. Was it Muhammad Ali that said “You can’t hit what you can’t see?” I forget. Anyways, it’s good advice. Crashers are none too bright and usually not very good at driving. It’s easy to outmanuever them.
you know you have people who want to reck your game when your doing an eight car drag race and you get smashed into srtaight off the line there is no excuse for it.
People who are banned are stepped through the “normal” bans, starting with a seven-day (148 hour) first ban, then 30-days (720 hours) on the second offense. Third time is a charm, then they’re uninvited from participating in the online racing and ruining our game.
It is really simple, folks. The Xbox LIVE Code of Conduct, which each of us agrees to abide by when we create our accounts, contains the regulations. Everyone with a gamertag has agreed to those rules. You stray, you pay.
The whole purpose of filing the central report with Xbox LIVE via the Xbox One method is to place the gamertag in the system as one who disrupts game play. This may be something that player does not only in FM5, but other games as well. The Policy Enforcement Team keeps track of those players, can adjust their Reputation - and even has the right tools and manpower to check on the reported player in-game, while doing their annoying/disruptive habits.
I want to play the game not police it for poor design.
Been hit time and time again until it’s no longer any fun. I stick to offline mode now with rivals and free play only.
Nobody can be forced to play in a way they do not want to. The wreckers and smashers paid just as much money as me and so if that’s how they want to play then they should be allowed to do so. Until proper design is introduced for online racing I am sorry but you are going to keep reporting until you are blue in the face.
The only way forward for you at the moment is to join one of the countless forum adverts for clean racers and race them when they are online.
This point of view came up in another topic and the guy got slated for having that view but IMO its right, I hate people smashing into me but hey, welcome to racing online, there is no “Proper Design” they can introduce, this has happened since Forza 1, it happened on PGR, Moto GP, heck back on the TOCA series, when you get a racing game and a collisions on mode it invites people to be that guy that wrecks everyone
Only way round it is for collisions off lobbies but “oh that’s not racing” is the outcry from the community … its a lose lose situation for the Developers, always has, always will, welcome to racing online !!
Sure, I can see why my point of view would annoy folk. It’s not meant to but it’s the way things are really.
I am unsure why forza players think that making reports will change the world. It really won’t. Saving videos like has been mentioned is pointless. Let’s look at the reality here. The game is a one time purchase, there’s no recurring subscription and so what money is made from the sale is all they will get. They hope DLC will sell and I am sure there’s a conversion rate in their offices somewhere demonstrating the amount of DLC each forza license will get them but ultimately the sale of the game is it.
Why anyone would think out of the 40 or 50 poounds sale that turn 10 will spend some of it hiring people to manually look for ‘naughty’ players or watch videos of ‘naughty’ players is quite bizarre. Think of the costs involved in hiring folk, they would be considered support staff and unless I am mistaken turn 10 is not know for a high level of customer support as it’s not necessary.
The report system will be purely automated so as not to waste money. The more reports someone gets the more chances that they are actually doing something wrong and so the system takes action. Requires zero human interference. As nobody is going to manually check these things which would take hours upon hours to do then removing someone completely from online playing is unlikely as there’s never a certainty that they were actually doing anything wrong. So your reports have an effect but not the one you want.
Forza is not a young game, if anyone actually cared about the online racing side of things then systems would have been introduced a long long time ago to sort out the issues.
I can only really hope that when teams arrive that this will mean cleaner racing as teams will race amongst themselves. Annoying drivers will be booted making them teamless and so less likely to get online action except amongst other non team racers and if you are in a nice clean team then who cares about teamless players.
In the mean time then, take the online racing for what it is… Flawed. It is a game and not real life. Accept the idiots or do not play online and stick to offline racing with the UI. In the meantime you can still add clean racers to your friends list [countless posts advertising clean racers] and race them when they are online for your happy online racing fix.
Why raise your heart rate, lose sleep and get annoyed at a game when you have no control over it. Simply enjoy it for what it is and then buy the next one when released. You will be a happier person for it
