The problem with Drifting Events in Horizon Open (FH5)

Dear Playground Games…

How hard is it to have filters for AWD , RWD ,S1 class and A class for drifting events in Horizon Open ? :melting_face::melting_face:

-“I think, we should be able to choose awd or rwd lobby since most people abuse awd + drag tire build are so unfair for rwd drifters.”

-“AWD is powersliding, RWD is real drifting.”

-“As I understand that rwd vs awd build up points very differently… I also agree that separate categories would be super beneficial. Honestly the layout of fh4s drift adventure ideally is what I prefer for this.”

-“I read somewhere on the forum that AWD Drifting in online adventure is overpowered and should be removed from open drifting or have its own category.”

-“Look, no matter what tuning your doing, AWD will
always score higher. And it’s just due to the fact that all four tyres are making you gain points. However, I did notice that getting all four tyres to smoke on a red build does do the same thing.”

-“Need to make it 2 different categories”

-“Nope. It’s one of the reasons I don’t do Open Drifting as much as l’d like to. I don’t like AWD drifting and hate seeing people with sloppy technique just rack up points. I can’t understand why they haven’t split the categories yet.”

-“Look, no matter what tuning your doing, AWD will
always score higher. And it’s just due to the fact that all four tyres are making you gain points. However, I did notice that getting all four tyres to smoke on a red build does do the same thing.”

^^These are the words of some of long time Forza players , words that most players right now agree with proven by this poll :
https://www.reddit.com/r/forza/comments/x30a4k/do_you_think_forza_horizon_5_should_separate_awd/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf

Having separate classes for drifting events just like the other modes in Horizon Open should be a no brainer at this point ( If you think otherwise , Id like to hear your reasoning in the comments ) , specially considering that the game is almost a year old now .

its really starting to become a joke

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Can only agree to everything youve said…

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FULL BANNED AWD

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AWD is a joke in Horizon open drift. You have people who spend hours tuning and drifting thier RWD cars then have someone come in with a AWD swaped willys or another light weight car that is AWD swapped and get 200,000-300,000 more points over a RWD set up car, not to mention they reverse at the start to have more speed to start and only do one lap. Going up against people that use AWD lightweight cars is NOT FUN AT ALL.

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Agree! I really dislike awd “drifting”, and you cant be competitive rwd:( Makes open drifting unplayable

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Abuse AWD drifting? If RWD is real drifting then why are there AWD Duffy cars in real life? Learn what you are talking about. Just because people are mad because they can’t drift (the ones who can drift RWD are getting 950k on one track while I’m completely sideways not straightening hardly at all at good speed, and maxing my angle for score to rack up quicker and holding that drift for a good while, at least I thought and I’m in AWD Supra or Toyota GR22, getting 820k 850k. They’re is no disadvantage to RWD in the game except those who can’t RWD drift and same goes both ways but anyway, to say RWD is real drifting and AWD is not drifting shows how you are not up to speed on your opinions, because they are not facts.

From Google:
While most professional drifters utilize rear-wheel drive cars, there are some drifters who use modified all-wheel drive (AWD) cars, particularly popular examples being Subaru Imprezas and Mitsubishi Evolutions, which can be adapted to drift with modifications that allow for controlled oversteer despite their AWD system; however, drifting an AWD car is generally considered more challenging due to the extra grip

Key points about AWD drifting:

Challenges: AWD cars naturally have more grip, making it harder to initiate and maintain a controlled slide like in a traditional RWD.

Modifications: Drifters often modify AWD cars by adjusting power distribution to favor the rear wheels to achieve better oversteer for drifting.

Popular AWD drift cars: Subaru WRX STI, Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution and many more.

Also…
Nobushige Kumakubo is a famous drifter who used an all-wheel drive (AWD) Subaru Impreza during the 2005 D1 Grand Prix season. Kumakubo switched from his S15 Silvia to the Impreza and showed how capable a Subaru could be for drifting.

Team Orange is another group that pioneered the use of AWD chassis for professional drifting.

The Hyundai Ioniq 5 N is an AWD electric car with a dedicated “drift mode” that sends all the power to the rear wheels.

If you are not doing well and looking for a reason to complain then I suggest hitting the mountain drift zone and practicing first. No matter what you did or didn’t do in games before Forza 5 or right now, each game is it’s own, if it needed to be like forza 4 or 3 then keep playing those.

Using a Willys, Autozam, and others is just cheating, RWD or AWD but you can’t place all AWD drifters in the same category. I know for a fact if every AWD drifter is beating you in drifts then you plainly can’t drift at all. I’ve never, NEVER, seen that happen and I drift every day in Forza 5. Sometimes AWD sometimes RWD get beat and win in both. Some cars are just better in AWD some better in RWD. I spend hrs setting up AWD cars so what’s the difference? I lose some, I win some. How it goes. It’s a game for crying out loud, you can choose not to play. I mean if you never win at all, I suggest getting on at a different time or when not so many are on drifting.

I will be glad to to give you my comments as to why I think otherwise, already posted on another post just like this and Forza backed my comment. So your level of knowledge on this topic along with many others in the game from the comments I’ve read is par none. You apparently have no clue as to what you are talking about. AWD and RWD cars do rack up points differently, but because AWD has 4 tires spinning. They point differently so they can gain points alike. Forza made it so where it doesn’t matter what your drivetrain is points are based on angle of drift, speed at which drift is being performed, and distance of said drift. For two, if you think AWD wins every race you must not drift that much. I have drifted every day for quite some time now, have over 400 drift builds and I don’t drift the Isetta, Blower, Autozam, Sera, Willy’s Jeep, or none of that. I am not as good as some but better than most and I get my butt kicked all the time by RWD cars when Im in a AWD car. Why? think about what you said, you think it is easier to get that much power to all four wheels rather than just two? It may be easier to control in the game but AWD is only banned in real life because it is harder to drift in AWD than RWD. That is the only reason there is no AWD drifting in the real world and contrary to what you think or don’t think, RWD is the only drivetrain that can powerslide. AWD CANNOT POWERSLIDE. Now I don’t know what your in game tag is but your tag here Ive never seen in Horizon Open Drifting A class or S1 class. The reason you are getting beat is because you just aren’t good enough to beat anyone. Why don’t you practice instead of fussing about it. It isn’t something you just pick up one day and master in game or out.

Smoke from all 4 tires huh? Hmm…powersliding would do that for RWD cars as well. Some long time Forza players huh? I have in my community a drift builder of both AWD and RWD and a master of both who has been building drift builds for Forza in game since it’s debut and in other games as well, and another well known drift builder in my club. Both of which Im sure a lot of you have downloaded their builds at one time or another or seen there videos. Both will tell you that the only reason you can’t win against AWD cars is because you aren’t good enough in RWD yet to do so. We all know there are cars out there that are just ridiculous and almost cheating in AWD but not all are like that, there are RWD cars that drift like the wind and some take a lot of practice. Both have ups and downs. Now Forza Open Drifting every one says “I don’t do it cause AWD”… lol…bull…you don’t do it cause you can’t do it. Don’t be a level 1 or 2 person in there getting your butt whooped and you get mad and leave and then come here to fuss about it. You should practice drift zones or any where in free roam and get good at it, then come in there, place top 3 or 5 and start tweaking your builds or the way your drift from there. Stop complaining about AWD will always win cause they don’t. The majority of the wins are RWD if you don’t have a race with those “easy win” vehicles and they can run RWD or AWD and still win and if you do mainly A class, most builds are RWD because the power just isn’t there for most vehicles to be AWD.

Remember, you can’t win them all and you aren’t going to win a lot unless you’re one of the players in the top few drifting clubs out there so stop whining, get your facts straight, and practice. Only players I ever see quit are the ones low level who get less than 100,000 points per drift race and just because there are sloppy drifters out there don’t fuss about them, look at yourself, you’re on here fussing so you can’t be much better.

So AWD or RWD doesn’t matter because the point system does not gain you points according to how many of your tires are spinning lol\

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