This track has been in the game for the last 4 or 5 months. Unfortunately, it seems to come up constantly in the lobbies. I say unfortunately because I absolutely hate the track with a passion. Its the curbing. Most specifically, the curbs (they aren’t even curbs as much as bumps) at turns 5, 8 and 9 (and to a lesser extent, the ones at turn 1 and 4 too). Why in the world do they put bumps in the middle of a turn that will cause your car to do the craziest of things if you go over them wrong?
This really isn’t a whine (well, maybe a little, but not entirely). I’m actually hoping for someone to explain to me what the purpose of them is. I have never been a racing fan and probably never will be. I know football (which starts today… GO EAGLES!!!) and know almost nothing about the little details of racing. I just love the game. No other track has them, unless you count that ridiculous bump on the final chicane on Prague (the one that dirties all of my best laps). I just don’t understand them. If you go over them right, you’re lap is clean and you can get a good time. However, if you hit them wrong, you slide into a wall and who knows what else. Seriously, what is their purpose? If its to keep you from driving on that area, then why is it clean when you do? Why isn’t there a clear barrier there? I find them to be the most moronic thing in this game. You’ve got great tracks like Silverstone and Spa in the game, they don’t have stupid bumps in the middle of their turns. I’m not looking for a long drawn out explanation, but can someone help me wrap my head around why they are there. I have decent times on that track, but I am so sick of having really good laps ruined by those bumps. I would just avoid the track all together, but two of the versions seem to be the default choice of track whenever the lobby votes for random. Whenever I’m in a lobby, a variant of LB comes up about one out of every 6 races, so I can’t get away from it. LB, Spa, and Road Atlanta seem to come up way more than anything else.
I HATE THAT TRACK, I HATE THAT TRACK, I HATE THAT TRACK, I HATE THAT TRACK, !!!
Its just the game…in real life curbs dont react like that …Forza has so many faults its embarrassing…Goodbye and hello Project Cars…
This game has potential but not while Turn 10 and Microsoft are running the show …its gettin to the stage where i just turn it on and think wow why…then off.
I’m gonna take a stab in the dark here. One thing to probably take into consideration is that this is a street circuit and not a technical race track therefore the terrain is going to be far from blemish free. Also, tracks IRL do have bumps even in turns, it would be odd to me if they didn’t. In fact many people have complained that Bathurst for example has more bumps IRL than the version in game.
I don’t mind the bumps if they are supposed to be there since these tracks are supposed to be “laser scanned.” IMO T10 did a good job scanning Long Beach, check out this video and you will see those bumps are really there. A Lap Of Long Beach - YouTube
It would help if you did know more about racing. I don’t give two hoots about ball sports, so it would be pretty silly for me to complain about this or that in football when I know nothing about it.
Long Beach is an actual circuit, converted from streets. All real road courses have stuff like curbs, bumps, and/or armco. It’s not just a bunch of asphalt and anything goes. Sometimes those bumps appear in places to discourage you from going there. If you get by with it, fine, but bumps try to discourage you from trying it. Other circuits employ other means, like Monza where they force you to weave through barriers if you shortcut a chicane. It’s part of professional motorsport.
Really? Would it really help if I knew more about racing??? Gee, I thought I made myself rather clear that I was asking from a point of ignorance and was hoping for someone to enlighten me. If I knew more about racing, then I wouldn’t have asked the question, Captain Obvious… What’s wrong about asking what their purpose is? They are obviously put there on purpose and this naive person would simply like to understand why. Its not a rant, a whine, a complaint, or a hissy fit… Its a legit question by someone who is confused and simply doesn’t understand. Last time I checked, when you don’t know something, asking a question about it is a good way to learn… Or, has that simplest of things been removed from these forums along with having an opinion? I get one answer that isn’t condescending and that person gets banned for it. Seriously? What a joke…
They are just placed there to define the apex of the corner (often making it tighter) and moving it away from the wall. I have heard them refered to as “alligator teeth” by racers, for obvious reasons. I think they are as bad as the many horrible chicanes that emasculate many great tracks.
You weren’t innocently asking a question, you stated how much you hate the track quite a few times.
You also stated that the bumps are the most moronic thing in the game.
I do think the bumps are moronic and I truly despise the track. I have been saying it since they added it to the game. Compared to tracks like Spa, the Ring, Buggatti, Road America and Catalunya, Long Beach is utter garbage, IMO. Its stone cold ugly and the racing there is pathetic. Its nothing but a crashfest in multiplayer. I think I’m more than entitled to have an opinion, no? That’s not being condescending. Its quite blunt and rather to the point. That opinion doesn’t change the fact that I simply don’t understand the purpose of the bumps. Thankfully, someone has explained it to me and that was all I was asking for… Thanks Foot and Rabbit.
They are put their to keep the real drivers from cutting the corners. I have heard the drivers call them bread loafs and they are brutal if used improperly.
I should have been more specific, I didn’t take your post as condescending. I probably shouldn’t have said anything as I’ve been in a very antagonistic mood since I saw what happened to Simmo. I’m probably guilty of being mad and just looking to pick a fight. My apologies…
Lou racing Long Beach in Forza can be a crash fest and frustrating. However in the real world with proper drivers where you can’t just ram every car on track it’s a daunting test of skill courage. It’s a fast paced track and a small lapse in concentration will end your day in a hurry.
I don’t doubt you one bit. I’m sure if you’re a racing fan, then its very impressive. Like I said in the OP, I’m not a fan of racing outside of Forza. I get zero enjoyment from watching it on TV, or in person. I grew up drag racing in Philly and always loved being part of it. I never wanted to be a spectator unless the crowd was filled with hot young girls though. To this day, anytime I’m behind the wheel of a really fast car, I still get such a rush. I feel nothing unless I’m the one behind the wheel though. That’s why I love Forza as much as I do. It comes very close to giving me that same rush.
Besides the obvious crashfest issues with LB, I think its a ridiculously ugly track. Unlike the tracks I mentioned earlier. They are very appealing to the eyes when you race on them.
Anyway, the purpose of this thread really was to educate me as to what those silly bumps are all about. I have my explanation, but doesn’t mean I am going to like them now. I will never like the track. I have to live with it though because the hoppers shove it down your throat in multiplayer. Maybe I notice it coming up more than other tracks because of my dislike for it, but I really don’t think that is the case. I was on earlier and one time both choices were LB full. The entire lobby voted for random and the track that came up was the slightly shorter LB. There’s no getting away from it.
Long Beach does seem to come up quite a bit. Except when I got about three races from the Beach Hopper achievement. Then, it seemed about as common as a Honus Wagner baseball card.
What can I say, Lou? Everybody has their track preferences. I’ve been bitten by the Long Beach bumps a few times. It’s especially rough in a bump sensitive car like the Elan.
Still, if I could remove a track from MP, I would gladly remove Yas versus Long Beach. The blatant cheating there gets me more worked up than it should.
I think there are a lot who would agree with you on Yas. However, I’m not one of them. Like you, I can hate racing it in lobbies due to all the cheaters. However, in private lobbies (with actual clean racers) and hot lapping, I absolutely LOVE that track. Until the Ring came along, Yas was my favorite track, still might be. Yas is a tough track, very challenging, and for me its a lot of fun. It doesn’t have alligator teeth though
Oh, and the Honus Wagner card… I have three of them. I keep them right next to my Babe Ruth and Mickey Mantle rookie cards Just kidding obviously… I actually do have a Mike Schmidt rookie card though. Perfect condition and I’ve had it since I was a little kid in 1972. Have no idea what its worth though.
Long Beach has a lot of history in American racing. Granted, the track was different back in the day, but they have been racing there on the streets of LBC for 40 years. Both the Ferrari and McLaren F1 cars in Forza 5 raced there in 1976.
It’s a tough circuit. It’s hard to pass, there are concrete barriers everywhere, and the aforementioned bumps force drivers to take one line through most corners. It’s a unique and challenging layout, and an online lobby in Forza with random folks does it no justice.
