Singleplayer Aside

Forza Motorsport Legacy Motorsport FM7 Discussion
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It’s early Saturday morning. No time for breakfast or even cartoons. Today is the day the roar of engines and the thrill of glory await you. You climb out of bed and pull your collection of hot wheels from the closet. Your tonka truck tows them to the venue for todays race; the living room floor. Rummaging through your prized assests, the clang of metal and plastic spurring you on. You find the die-cast car that will carry you to victory. You set it down at the starting grid, your imagination reving with the fury of a thousand storms. It’s paint scheme glistens from the morning rays of light shimmering through the windows. Truly a car sent from heaven itself.

Now to set the competitors. The competitors you will attempt to defeat on your quest for victory, the ones who might try to wreck you in a fireball of death…or might even try to help you. You reach for a favored model to fill the grid, but just before your hand can take hold, your mother slaps it away with a quick swoosh of a fly swatter…

“You can only play with one.” she states.

You gasp in disbelief, as you gaze at the crossed legged, middle aged woman sipping her morning coffee. “But…but…” you mutter. Your prized collection must sit this day out? They must watch from the sidelines as you…as you…drive alone? But what about villians, teammates, close favorites, the ones that just look cool and even the one you and your sister painted together? Your vast array of cars and paint jobs, each with their own story and invested amount of your time, must sit idle? How am I supposed to race this fine day with only one car?!?

Your mother hears your question through the breaking of your heart and points over your shoulder. You turn slowly, not sure what vision awaits you. No…NO…it cannot be! Rusted wheels, outdated designs, faded paint, multiple duplicates of the same ******** car??? Your knees hit the floor and you weep in despair. Your mother has plucked the starting grid from the local flea market…

So is the story of being singleplayer in Forza 7.

PS - I’m patiently waiting for the day I can use cars from my own garage and set the starting grid the way I see fit. Because after all, they are my cars. Heres hoping T10 won’t continue to be the fly swatting, flea market loving mother and instead realize the true potential of their living room floor. Cheers.

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Do you remember playing with your hot wheels collection as a kid? Lining them all up on the floor and having an imaginary race. The story was comparing that experience with Forza. Because they are very similar. Except in the story, the mother (T10) only allows you to use 1 car from your collection. Much like in free play. Then cars are selected for you and placed on the grid randomly, often not very immersive selections. It would be nice to select cars from your garage with your own paint schemes and place them on the grid in the order you want.

I like to setup my own championship series against AI. But this is made difficult with the current restrictions on the game. Simply looking for the same experience in Forza as most kids had with their hot wheels collection as kids. Using your imagination to create your own experience.

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I didn’t do it that way. I set up the track and run one at a time to figure out which was the fastest.

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You ok? You sound like you need to try Freeplay.

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I don’t think anyone has quite grasped the concept yet. I thought I would use a story with some dry humor to parallel my Forza experience, instead of just stating the concept as many have done before. Regardless, here’s the breakdown.

I run my own singleplayer, free play, 20 race championship series. Keeping track of the schedule, drivers, scoring, lap times, etc. using google sheets. I setup each race using two buckets, one for me so I can run a much lower rated car to even out the competition, and the second bucket of AI is pulled from the Forza GT division. The races are usually around 30ish laps with one quick stop required. Currently this is the starting grid that is set for me every single race with the above settings.

#14 Jaguar XK
#62 Ferrari F458
#17 Bentley
#3 Chevy C7.R
#84 M-B SLS
#59 McLaren 12c
#35 M-B SLS
#55 BMW Z4
#62 Ferrari F458 GTC
#45 Audi R8
#51 Ferrari 458
#92 BMW M3
#60 McLaren 12c
#4 Chevy Zr1
#007 AM DBR9
#91 Dodge Viper
#56 BMW Z4
#93 Dodge viper
#35 Maserati
#23 Nismo GT-R
#18 Lamborghini Super
#14 Lamborghini super
#45 Porsche GT3

I then break them down into teams by Country of the Manufacturer.

Ferrari
Dodge
AM - Jag
BMW
Mercedes
Chevy
McLaren
Audi-Porsche
Lambo
Bentley
Maserati
Nissan

Three teams have 3 cars per team; Ferrari, Dodge, BMW. (I run the third Dodge). Three teams only have 1 car per team; Maserati, Bentley, Nissan. The rest have two. This impacts the team standings. Even though I only score the top two finishers from each team, the 3 car teams have an unfair advantage over the 2 car teams, and the 1 car teams do not have a chance at all. There are several cars in the Forza GT division that I would like participating in my series that could even out the teams. But I am unable to choose the cars to fill my starting grid in Free Play. Also, as you can see in the list there are several duplicate numbers, and the number plates on the default liveries do not match, thus breaking the immersion experience.

I’m starting the second season of my series, and I would like to make some changes to the drivers, teams and cars participating. Because in a real racing series, drivers change teams, contracts run out, liveries change, etc. However these changes will not be possible. I’m stuck running the same lineup.

I correlated the story to this experience. When you collected hot wheels as a kid you could use your entire collection in a make believe race. Picking one to be you. (at least this is how I thought most kids played, I might be wrong). I’ve earned the collection of cars in my Forza garage and most have their own story and livery. But I can only see one on the track at a time (the one I’m driving). It would be nice to see these cars along side me in my 20 race series. I could then make each team consist of two cars per team with their own number and custom livery, and each competitor with a matching number plate design.

Another bonus of this would be I could create a qualifying round. I usually do a 5 lap race to warm up and see what times the other cars are running. I could use this race to set the starting position of each car in the actual 30 lap race. Instead I get a random starting grid every time.

This is a single player role playing experience (could also be a small multiplayer) and I understand it is not for everyone. But Forza has provided fantastic tools such as Free play and the livery designer to do the above mentioned. But due to restrictions on the game, players like me are stuck finding work arounds that still don’t come close to the experience we could be having.

FM4 was close to this and I actually ran a similar series with 2 other friends. Cause you could actually have AI in MP back then, but that’s another story for another day. Because of this feature in FM4 I was excited for future releases, thinking they would expand on the Free Play capabilities. But they have actually subtracted from them, which I’ve never understood why. I still have a lot of fun playing FM7 as is. But it is capable of so much more.

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I am a huge fan of this and a major advocate for AI in private lobbies.

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So basically, being able to use your own built cars in races and having other drivatars use your other cars? Nice story.

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I have 800 different cars and can race ANY if them, not sure what people are doing wrong!

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In career mode you’ll often see people using the same cars, because FE cars give bonus money and each division has its better cars. Recently in the Touring Cars division, only two Mercedes, me and one of the backmarkers. As is common knowledge, the A45 is one of the weaker cars in that group.

In Free Play you see much more variety, at the expense of not seeing the custom designs despite being able to activate them.

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Wow I hope you apply some of that obsessive behaviour to your school work and get a good job.

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I graduated college over 15 years ago and live a comfortable financial life. But I appreciate the passive aggressive judgement / advice.

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Technically they have added to Free Play as none of the options listed were in Free Play, they were in private online rooms you could set up. All you could do in FM4’s Free Play was pick the class you wanted to race in.

But anyway all that stuff was in the game and it seemed like a no-brainer to bring it over to Free Play. And they need to bring those same online options back to FM7 & 8 as well.

If you want an RPG like experience in Forza Motorsport, where the races mean something, you’re going to have to create for yourself…

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It was just copy/paste. :frowning: We can’t sort grid by Best Lap in Free Play, AI does not upgrade their cars…

There was some interest from Turn 10 in updating Free Play and we’re lucky that most people have the same wishes: handpick the grid, add further restrictions on top of homologation, choose time of day, etc.

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I still do FM4. 4 driver buckets available.