I went with vintage white wall tires due to them being more PI efficient. Gave me room for weight reduction.
Might regret that if the second race is a handling circuit.
I’m probably going with the Jaguar E Type but also liked the 250 California and 2000GT.
I’m liking the Miura but the Dino got to the front faster
white walls are already the handling compromise, riviera is a full on sprint, it’ll be dominated by stock tires and powerbuilds
There will be a lot of wall riding if they’re using stock tire power builds and I’d predict vintage white wall tire users will win out in the end.
I have to agree. That first corner on what is normally the speed zone gets people every time when they don’t have any handling. I don’t think you can adjust alignment enough for grip to take it with the slidey stock tires. White walls would be proper, or even street tires .I notice caos’s build used streets. Running the 2000 with streets and putting more power didn’t give me any extra time gains. The increase of 3 mph with a weight reduction gave me about half a second because of the sprint…but due to the lack of brakes it actually counteracted it. Such a touchy course.
B Rare Classics (Riviera Sprint)
Merc 300SL (Rocklxd) - 3:03.559
Lambo Miura (CashlessPlains8) - 3:04.059
E-Type (xiaoyuge233) - 3:04.085
Toyota 2000GT (TGM) - 3:04.284
Alfa Giulia '65 (Mustuff124) - 3:04.568
Cobra (ESV Mars ‘Updated’, RWD) - 3:04.618
Ferrari Dino (Saeenu) - 3:04.910
250 GT Lusso (TGM) - 3:05.711
Merc 280 SL (AlfaBRO2385, drags) - 3:05.761
Ferrari 365 GTB/4 (Mustuff124) - 3:05.836
AM DB5 (DzevoX) - 3:05.945
Porsche 356 '59 (TGM) - 3:06.453
Merc SSK (TGM) - 3:06.620
911 '73 (TGM) - 3:06.737
250 California (TGM) - 3:06.921
Bentley 8 Litre (TGM) - 3:07.421
Bentley 8 Litre (COMoonStars) - 3:09.039
Porsche 356 '59 (Caje) - 3:10.240
Merc SSK (PutTakumi2003) - 3:11.734
I’d say anything from the DB5 upwards is fine for Riviera, 911 + 250 Cali meh, bottom 3 not really surprising given they start in low D class and top 5 in particular very good and should still be strong on whatever the 2nd/3rd races are, only used them once here but drags may be a worthwhile option for the Trial itself if you can tune a car to run well with them, providing that at least the 2nd race is a suitable course though.
Changed both of Bedlam’s tunes out to my own because they aren’t available to download anymore, might share the 2000GT on Thursday but not sure yet, I’d expect a near identical build to mine to already be shared by that time so there’d be little point.
the only reason to use white walls is the second race
not even knowing what it is, Riviera is the most all-out sprint in the game. white walls has to be paired with no weight reduction to stay competitive, or you can go lighter with stock tires to restore the handling, with the same engine build
I don’t think it will matter against the awful Trial AI and much of the FH community aren’t much better at driving.
Giving the forza community at large cars with better handling…is a true gift lol.
there’s a very real chance people won’t be able to catch the AI. this is one of the only races I say that about
has anybody actually tested vs unbeatables?
I can only beat them by 6 to 8 seconds. Problem is as you said…it’s a sprint…but the AI on unbeatable take that first turn without slowing down like we do. They gain a second or two in the front…requiring speed on that first leg before the 90 degree turn.
I set a blueprint up and only a couple could pull away with several seconds on unbeatable.
I forsee the vast majority getting beat by the AI on Riviera.
If there is a circuit then this whole Trial is going to be a mess as the cars tuned for Sprint will be hopeless for Circuit and vice versa.
that’s why I’m saying white walls is correct, it’s the best option to balance between Riviera and possibly a circuit.
Chihuahua or Tierra Pròspera would be worst case scenario, and are both on the horizon tour with Riviera so…
Previously some experienced tuners have stated that if you’re testing cars using a blueprint, setting the difficulty level to unbeatable won’t mirror what will happen in the actual Trial. Expert or Highly Skilled may be more realistic. Having said that if none of the humans have managed to overtake all the AI in the early stages of The Trial, there are instances where the AI seem to get an extra boost.
I’ve not yet looked at TGM’s update but my Top 4 from his previous recommendations all have very similar finishing times. The 8 Litre Bentley on Rally tires was the most fun to drive and finished 6 seconds ahead of the AI but I don’t think I’ll be using it. At the moment it’s going to be the M-B 300 SL Coupe or Toyota 2000GT which both had good handling.
if your tune can’t beat unbeatable drivatars, you shouldn’t share it
i always forget to mention this, but in my opinion it’s important to use a blueprint with the correct season, instead of rivals
edit: for tuning the trial, I mean. for just testing tunes relatively to each other, it doesn’t matter as much
I’m gonna do some trial testing today, this is an interesting one
Here’s what I had in my garage, and the spot in the race that I took the lead, and the general stats:
Ferrari dino 30%
white walls / 413hp 2505lbs / 163mph
Ferrari 365 47%
white walls / 456hp 3442lbs / 165mph
Ferrari 250 Berlinetta 93%
white walls / 354hp 2565lbs / 155mph
Ferrari 250 California Finished 3rd
street tires / 414hp 2543lbs / 153mph
Jag Etype 31%
white walls / 462hp 2785lbs / 160mph
Lambo Miura 37%
stock tires / 473hp 2836lbs / 160mph
Benz 300 SL 33%
white walls / 469hp 2590lbs / 162mph
Porsche Carerra Finished 2nd
stock tires / 278hp 2313lbs / 155mph
Porsche 356 29%
white walls / 278hp 1823lbs / 150mph
Toyota 2000GT 33%
white walls / 414hp 2745lbs / 172mph
Anything better than white walls and you run the risk of losing to a drivatar.