Hey all!
Yesterday i was comparing the sound of shifting using the manual aid versus shifting using manual/clutch. I ended up liking the way downshifts sounded on manual far more than the way they sounded on manual/clutch. I discovered that this was because the game rev matches for you on manual( a technique i had never used when driving clutch). I’ve also come to notice that the upshifts on manual sound a lot cleaner than when i do it using manual/clutch–and i can’t seem to figure out why. I do let off the throttle but when i shift it kind of sounds like the car hits the rev limiter ever so slightly, causing an almost jerky sound to my upshifts. This usually only happens on higher end cars(with race transmissions i might add). I played with damage on to see if my clutch ever went out, in case i was just shifting incorrectly, and it never did. Any explanations? How do i get that smooth sounding shift like manual?
l play with manual+clutch on controller and l rev-match downshift. That sounds really fancy but what l in practise do is press the clutch (RB), tap the throttle (RT) and shift down (X) practically all in the same time. l do it now in a split second but when l was learning it took maybe half a second or something just to figure out what to do. l find it more entertaining above all and maybe it also has some performance benefit l don’t know. At least it does keep traction on a bit better than just downshifting without matching (when clutch is manual).
My upshifts sometimes do sound like the revs hop up. l think when you play with manual clutch you can do literally in a split second shifts. l actually dislike that but l’ll take it. l would like if l had to hold down the shift key a little lest it would mis-shift. Unless you have a multidisc clutch with race transmission. Now l can do those split second shifts with a stock 1950’s driveline…
I don’t quite understand from your explanation why the revs hop up though. It doesn’t seem to do this if you shift using just the manual aid.
Thats realistic to how downshifting at high speeds actually works. When you downshift, it causes the wheels to suddenly slow down, which can cause loss of traction. When you blip the throttle as you downshift, you ensure that the wheels continue to spin at the same speed when the clutch engages. Combine the rev-matching downshift with braking and you have the heel-toe downshift, which maintains excellent traction while slowing down the vehicle.
You guys are correct about the manual only doing the rev matching for you. In Manual + clutch, you have to do it yourself. As for why the car sounds like it is hitting the rev limiter when you are up shifting, that is most likely because you may still be slightly on the gas when you are applying the clutch. If sound is really important to you for immersion reasons or whatnot (I am completely guilty of this), I would recommend slowing down the whole process until you learn how to move your fingers to make sure you aren’t hitting the gas on accident as you are upshifting.
So for example, let’s say you are driving along in 3rd gear. Not at redline, just cruising along. If you continue holding in the gas, you’ll keep accelerating. Now if you apply clutch without letting go of the gas, you’ll hear the car rev much higher (and hit the rev limiter) than it would if you were driving in gear. So, to properly upshift SOUND wise, you should completely let of the gas, apply clutch, shift up, release clutch, apply gas again. Try going through the whole process really slowly, just like you would in a real car. Then just work on improving your speed!
TLDR; You might just be holding on to the gas while you’re applying the clutch which is why it you’re hitting the rev limiter when you’re upshifting.