It’s mostly true. Let’s discuss.
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True facts. I feel ashamed for T10.
i was blind and hyped at green hell release, was just happy to get the most important track in racing games. First few laps was great till i started to look for more details, track surface, ratio of things and how authentic it looks compared to any other nordschleife release in all games available.
i think this is not even a laserscanned track. its to flat and generic.
automobilista 2 have the most advanced nordschleife yet. followed by rfactor2, AC, Iracing, Raceroom and GT7.
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Right. The fact that it feels flat and especially the carousel has no bumps or sound effects when you go over it, says pretty much everything. What a disgrace.
Countless other examples in there with proof.
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I don’t know how it is on a controller, but on a wheel, you do feel bumps when changing from the tarmac to the concrete, and you do feel the ridges between the individual concrete strips. But there’s no audible difference compared to just driving on a normal tarmac surface.
It’s especially odd because this is the opposite behavior to most curbs/rumble strips elsewhere in the game, where you get an audio cue but rarely feel anything in the wheel.
You can feel a very subtle rumbling with a controller that’s less prominent than in FM7.
I think it’s okay but the missing sound is amplifying the impression that there is nothing at all.
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Right, but visually it looks pretty flat to me. @Trippul_G
When running headphones, I definitely hear a sound when on the concrete parts. It even seems to pan between left/right ear as my car is left/right of the concrete area.
But it’s not a sound that I would expect. It’s a high frequency, almost hissing sound?
At first I didn’t notice it, but it’s very subtly there on my headphones. Not sure how else to describe it.
WHO CARES!!!
DON’T GIVE VIEWS TO TOXIC YOUTUBERS!!!
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Its beyond apparent that the tracks in Forza are not all new but man! Dude’s presentation is the stuff of sore winners.
Oh well. GT7 will be on PC soon enough, from the looks of things, so no biggie.
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I played both GT7 and FM8, I must say FM8 is more realistic apart from Narrow roads, that being said, people take too much notice on the kerbs and environment, honestly who gives a crap anyway? Because I’m always focused on the race ahead and not watching my environments unless its very obvious, like the Low Polygon trees in Lime Rock Park. If I’m being nitpicky I’d go play some other games, because Motorsport is more serious while Horizon is casual and that’s where I’d nitpick details.
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All good points guys. I do feel the OP in the video was being a little too dramatic.
It’s not at all too dramatic from the perspective of false advertisement and deliberate lies to customers. Stuff like this should be published and shamed by every publication related to video games or motorsport. From the perspective of gameplay it’s just very disappointing to have the least accurate version of this track in 2024 - something FM players were prepared for I’m afraid. Well, at least we’ll get the proper version in ACC on Xbox.
Watching GT gameplay and comparing it to FM is plain depressing.
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This! At the moment, commenting negatively about Forza genararting a lot of clicks. Not to provide constructive criticism, as many users do here. It’s all about getting a pat on the back from the hardcore Playstation fans. I have both games, Forza and GT. And when I see the many videos claiming that GT7 looks better, I can only laugh about it. Yes, the cars are more detailed, but that’s about it. Weather effects or lighting, to name two examples, GT looks exactly like the last gen game it is.
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This! Exactly this!
These clips are made not to enjoy the races it`s just nitpicking of unrelevant details for the most parts. You could do the same thing the other way around with GT and see how ridiculous the lighting looks in return. But then all the kids whose clicks and applause you want would get upset.
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The kerbs are much, much more important than the environment. They’re part of the track surface, it’s what you actually race on. The nurburgring is notorious for it’s intricate sections, bumpy roads, and tricky kerbs, replicating that is important.
Its not just about a few inaccuracies either. Chris Esaki specifically stated that the nordschleife got rescanned and rebuilt. Having the exact same errors in the kerb size and road shape prove that this is patently false.
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Lies. All of them marketing lies. Everybody figured that out within days of the release.
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A lot of the games faults can be chalked up to downgrades and unfinished development. A very, very generous person could call it honest incompitence. The nordschleife is odd though because it was apparently being worked on while Chris talked about it, yet he made a claim that he should have known to be untrue as he said it.
There’s misleading, and then there’s this.
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I discovered FM5 the worst force ever made! But this one in 2023 wins by leaps and bounds. There is no point in having 10 updates with corrections, you will continue to have the same problems with terrible graphics, horrible car modeling, not to mention poorly made tracks. Unfortunately, you cannot change the art chosen for this gray-looking game. In my opinion, this Head Cris Ezaki should be removed like what happened with 343, Kiki Wolfkill was removed due to bad decisions with Halo.
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I don’t think it’s as simple as removing or replacing the studio head. They’re all following orders and they have to put out what the “marketing script” says.
If it all turns out to be a scam, they look the other way. Convenient.
I seriously think T10 should form an independent studio and have the necessary support through a mix of their own budget + crowd funding. Just look at the masterpiece PCARS 1 & 2. It’s leaps and bounds ahead of FM23!
Misleading…definitely. 100%
There was even a thread titled “We were l**d to”. Not sure if it’s still active.