Issues with selecting cars in events

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This is half troubleshooting half suggestion. There is a clear issue that needs to be fixed, and this is suggesting how to do it very simply.

The issue:

In non-career events, you can select a different car while in the event before starting the race. The selection will be based on event restrictions. Some cars appear that do not conform to event restrictions, but could with an upgrade/downgrade.

When selecting such a car, one of two things may happen:

  • Either you get a message box with the option to pick a different car, apply an automatic upgrade, or load a tune;

  • Or you get a message along the line of “sorry, this car cannot be upgraded to match restrictions” and you have to pick a different car.

In any of the above cases, players may find themselves unable to pick the car that the game is showing, even if a manual upgrade would allow it to match restrictions. Players are thus left to back out of the event, navigate the main menu, select the car, upgrade it, then start a new event, hopefully having remembered to save their event settings, with all the loading times that implies.

Or, if players can pick the car, they may find themselves going to the upgrade menu to undo the tune/automatic upgrade, and do their own matching upgrade, which is just adding a few unnecessary steps.

On top of that, and in any case, the cars that appear in the selection menu may not include all the cars that could be made to match.

The problem may also arise in group/team events when changing group/team.

This is simply a lot of unnecessary, and frustrating loops, to jump.

The solution:

When selecting a car in an event, players should be able to pick any car that matches immutable event restrictions (for any group/team of the event, even if the player isn’t assigned to the group/event), and any other restriction should be ignored at that stage.

By “immutable event restriction”, I mean Make, Model, Year, Division, Engine Placement. These cannot possibly change, while every other characteristic else is subject to change upon upgrade.

A message may be displayed to alert players their car doesn’t match restrictions, but should be allowed to continue in the event menu, so they can manually upgrade their car to match restrictions without having to leave the event, load a random tune, or be told the computer can’t figure it out.

Players should only be blocked when trying to start an event with cars that don’t match event (and group/team where applicable) restrictions, not before.

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Here’s a concrete example from today:

The 1964 Ford GT40 MkI is A class 691 PI stock. Setting group restriction to

  • Make: Ford
  • Class: S
  • Year: 1964-1964

yields a “no car match restrictions” error message. From the main menu, the game is apparently incapable of figuring out a reality where the MkI GT40 could gain 9 PI from any of the upgrades available.

Different example. In a group restricted to :

  • Family: Porsche 911
  • Class: A

In the race lobby, the game will not allow me to buy a 1982 Porsche 911 Turbo 3.3 (C class stock) even though this is the very car I have just raced in that group upgraded to A class.

This needs to be fixed.

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Here’s another example, that highlights 3 different issues with car selection, upgrade and restrictions.

I painfully setup a race with 4 groups:

  • Aston Martin, 1964-1964, C class
  • Aston Martin, 1967-1967, C class
  • Aston Martin, 2001-2001, A class
  • Aston Martin, 2008-2008, A class

For each of these groups, that correspond to exactly one car: the DB5, the two DBSes, and the Vanquish. So why not set a model restriction directly? That’s because it doesn’t work with class restrictions. You cannot set a model restriction and a class restriction at anything other than the model’s stock class.

Wouldn’t you know, but by using make and year restrictions instead of a model restriction, the car is capable of pciking the one

That’s problem #1.

Originally, the DB5 and DBS 67 would have been B class. But I was greeted with a familiar message saying no car match the group restrictions. Even though you can manually upgrade both cars to B class, without using conversion upgrades.

That’s problem #2.

I ran the race once in group 3, saved the settings. Then, on a different day, I started a new free play race, starting from the main menu, I picked my C class Aston Martin DB5, loaded the saved settings, loaded in the race lobby, put myself into group 4, and changed my car to my A class Aston Martin DBS 08. I went into the upgrade menu, wanting to swap a few parts, but I couldn’t. The game wouldn’t let me leave because it thought the event was restricted to C class.

That’s problem #3.

Three different but related issues, because the game can’t recognise actually valid combinations, and will block you going forward when it shouldn’t.

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Not fixed in Update 10

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Still a nightmare in Update 11