Forza Horzon 4? - Thanks, NO!

Tried the demo. What can I tell? - no essential progress I found in comparison with FH3… which I tried also, but as a result - couldnt play well.
Now brief reasons about demo. Why I refuse?
1.Gates and flashback. Again. What to tell about it? The matter is clear: these specialities directly turns the project into stupid trash. Yes, we know such arcade challenge, you can play it sometimes, but ENTIRE THE GAME… flashbacks, obviously, needed for compensate permanent game destruction provided by “gates” gameplay… but in multiplataer we cannot prevent this damage even with such shameful instrument. Also additional countdown… no words more. We know a lot of open-world games, which avoid successfully this crap feature. They use control points for way marking: from where to where. Thats all what needed. If I miss road - I lose speed and so on. Sometimes you must made something for avoid too great cut-offs… but these developers simply dont want to work. They think, that they can simply cover all with this trach feature and go sleep… and recieve good game. No, such game is NOT good.
2. Idiotic story and fantastically stupid and annoying MANDATORY movies you have to watch. Really, does anybody like this? Who? Dont know about America, but in my country even for 12 y.o. teens its too much. Too stupid and sensless. I dont know about hazard again (substituting game progress work), but we see the same pictures with stupid different types points you recieve at finish… looks like, all these will again kill our time in multiplayer… No, thanks.
3.Again the same problem with physics, making wheel playing uncomfortable. At higher speed the car dont slide, but sink in ground, especially in asphalt - and in the same time you feel somewhat spring action, pushing you forward. Looks like, they made a model, but forgot to cound speed influence to it. So, as a result you cannot pass sharp corners nor in drift, neither in “grip” sliding. People with joystic can make rough movings and rotate car in unnatural way, but if you use racing wheel, at asphalt you cannot compete with them at all. If you think I’m noob, watch this:
Forza Horizon 3 Grand Challenge 3 Place Run - LaPremier against Attax Johnson 02 02 2017 4 20 13 - YouTube .
Off-road its not so fatal, but in previous game it was impossible to chose game type in multiplayer, and I cpuldnt play. Suspect, now it will be the same or even worse.
5. The world. The world is NOT better. There are a lot of quality objects, effects and so on, sometimes good panorama view… but generaly impression is NOT good. Now greenly colour more depressive, first of all. And… they tried to draw-out each leaf and in such way achieve a new level of realism… they didnt succeed. Trees often very unnatural and even ugly, and in massives they looks unpleasant. The world is very monotonous, its really boring. Also road net and traffic are too unnatural, it prevent real enjoyment. I go a kilometer - and its enough, no desire for to continue. Nothing new, nothing gladde eye. For compare… below u see the game, created 10 years ago by seven (7) German guys. THIS world for me is much more realistic, multivarious, nice. Its TALANTED. We see a lot of interesting objects, invented with fantasy. Entering this world, you will feel really good and want to continue walk even without aim - simply enjoy… although physics there bad. No such effect in these FH3-4 games.
City
Crash Time 4 17 09 2018 1 16 16 - YouTube
Countryside
Crash Time 4 18 09 2018 5 23 00 - YouTube
Crash Time 4 18 09 2018 5 32 56 - YouTube
City also
Crash Time 4 18 09 2018 5 40 21 - YouTube
This ancient game world is evidently more attractive.
4.Many stupid and annoying things still here. For example, like before, I must each time set up wheel buttons and axes. And when I open menu, I see joystic settings, although I havent it at all.After replay finished, the game starts to load it again - without request. Simply hack-work, which nobody goes improve. About previous game I could to tell very many heavy words, because it disappointed me great. Now I see, that no grounds for real improvements hope this demo gives. And, so, for such prise - NO. Itys simply trash for me, I repeat.

its the Best RACING GAME !!!

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No it’s not. It’s fun. But, I wouldn’t call it the best. I don’t know what IS the best racing game. Maybe there isn’t one. Maybe they all have their so many flaws that they wouldn’t really get rated as best. Maybe all the same. It’s better than Forza 7, but that’s not really saying much is it? Actually right now, I’d give best to Forza Horizon 3 if you want an arcadey ball. For slightly more seriousness, I’d give it to Gran Turismo Sport. If you don’t like always online, play Forza 6 or Gran Turismo 4.

I can’t tell how good a game is by a pre-release demo.

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Its a demo and could well be a dev build from a few weeks back, it isnt going to be flawless.
If you have such a problem with the premise of the game, the style and the mechanics, then dont buy it on release.
A video of a 10 year old game doesnt show much apart from the fact it looked good by 2008 standards. At a glance that and Forza Horizon games look like completely different types of driving game.

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So, you disagree story is stupid? You really like these gates and flashbacks? Whats good with it, for what its necessary? May be, its simply hack-work making devs’ life more easy and killing the game?

Wow, I have to completely disagree! DEMO on my PC ran seamlessly and look amazing. It’s delivering exactly what its claiming to deliver.

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How can you compare that garbage to forza. You have no idea what hard work has gone into making this game. That Crash time crap you put a link to is awful. Looks awful and sounds awful. How can you sit there with your bad English and say there is nothing new about the game haha. You know nothing Jon Snow. You stick to your “Crash 3” you aren’t welcome in the horizon franchise you unintelligent little man.

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I compare not the game here, but the picture only. And for anybody with quit good artistic taste Crash Time 4 is ten times better. Only technically new game can be better, but it doesnt make it’s world less boring and depressive.
I see guys DIDNT work with picture at least last two years, because it occur even worse, than in FH3.
My bad english? - quite good for you could understand. And mention any language, in wich you can write so fast and “good”.
I’m high-end racer, you see I do 3d in Grand Challenge FH3 with 75000 participant, thus my opinion has some weight.
Unintelligent?.. - hmmm. I’m doctor of philosophy in physics and piano criticist. My reasoning has good grounds, son.

Sorry bud … but your opinion has no more weight than any of the other millions of people playing Forza games. Might consider bringing your ego back down to the real world where your body lives with the rest of us.

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So… we can all agree that you have quit good artistic taste, then?

Lol.

Expert troll, well done.

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r/iamverysmart

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Won’t. Be. Missed.

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What are some people on???

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  1. To get the race type variety they have they really need checkpoints. Rewind is in most arcade games these days. meh. When online I assume people crashing into you is why you can miss checkpoints. If that’s an issue choose ghosted lobbies or set up your own specific race lobbies from freeroam.

  2. I agree. There have only been a few games where I choose to watch cutscenes, especially when they are repetitive. But I would not want a vanilla experience in a game like this either. Just give us the option to skip. But even then some (not all but some) cutscenes are covering loading screens.

  3. I don’t use a wheel but I think I find the opposite of you ie I go much better offroad with a controller than I do on tarmac. Where you say its impossible to chose gametype in multiplayer see my point in 1 - ghosted may help or set up your own races in freeroam where you can choose the tracks to race on. Some people get groups of friends or aquaintances to do similar race types.

  4. Sounds like an issue in the demo that should not be in the game. Should they do better? Yeah but its only the demo.

  5. I am playing on the Xbox One S. I was impressed with what I saw. Hate the walls that crumble but that’s not a quality issue.

For me there is something in the handling model that seems off. In FH3 I thought it was built in understeer to cope with the massive amounts of power put into the best builds. I would need to spend some tuning time to see if I end up liking the game.

How do I judge the demo? To be honest I preferred the previous FH demos to this but can’t put my finger on it.

Ok. Opinions and all that…

I hear super streets available! A bit cheaper too!

Hope you find what you’re looking for.

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You do you buddy, next week I’m gonna cruise down to my own private castle in Edinburgh in the drop dead beautiful Aston Martin DB10, change into highly modified Nissan Skyline GTR, then blast down to my private airfield to burn rubber cause hey, that’s the horizon life, that no other game can come even close to competing.

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Sorry, mate, you must know, that there are A LOT of games, providing such things.