Forza Horizon 4's glacial loading times

I thought I’d compare FH2 on the 360 loading off its slow 5400rpm hard drive versus my desktop PC with an i7 CPU, 16GB of RAM and SSD.

FH4 takes literally twice as long to load to the point where you can play. 20 seconds of that is unskippable splash screens during which no loading is taking place.

If it’s this slow on SSD one can only wonder what it’s like on a standard Xbox One.

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Speaking as a standard Xbox One owner (but I am upgrading to a One X in the next couple of months) I can honestly say it’s not too bad. Not brilliant but bearable

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I’m on a standard XBOne and the load times have been unremarkable.

You can’t compare a 360 game to a current gen game. There’s WAY more to load.

Xbox One was a little annoying sometimes, like twice a month maybe. One S was decent. Then the One X is great. It takes less than a minute on all of them.

Also, the video is misleading. If what you’re saying, about the splash screens not being skippable and no downloading taking place during is still in effect, then only counting load times; H2 is still faster at around 30 seconds, but H4 is only 45 seconds. That extra 15 seconds doesn’t constitute as bad, at least not to me to be able to enjoy seasons, dynamic weather on a 4K scale, HDR, all the good stuff that makes the longer loading times worth it.

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It isn’t misleading, it compares like with like - loading time from the time you start loading the game. If you notice I even gave FH4 a slight head start. Why would you not count unskippable splash screens? Are they a figment of my imagination? Do we not really have to sit through them? What’s worse is you can’t even go off and do something else while it loads, because when you come back it is stupidly sitting there waiting for you to come back to press a button before it loads further.

The size is moot because it doesn’t load it all at once but during gameplay it streams it on the fly. And it should all be relative, ie. yes the game is bigger but it’s on MUCH more powerful hardware and MUCH faster storage so it should equal out.

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I use the standard Xbox one and I can usually make a coffee, a toasted sandwich, finish a Rubik’s Cube and iron out some Brexit policies before FH4 fires up. Being the older gamer I can remember some titles having a mini-game to entertain the masses before the game launches to reduce the monotony. My major concerns are more within the game itself.

Driving down the motorway at blur speed to screen tear and stopping on a 50p piece with god braking before the speed trap
Server dropouts in multiplayer
Waiting an eternity for multiplayer servers only to be told “Computer says no”
Speed trap lv notification being stuck and fast travelling to the Unfortunately disappointing Island expansion and back again, only for it to be still present causing a restart
Fast travelling load times are far too long and you are always in the opposite direction to where you want to go (a little niggling)
Using Mixer through the FH4 menu and being dropped out of the game when you try to return to FH4
The most disgraceful sportsmanship in Adventures without any penalty system
Creative hub only showing your first “custom” blueprint per location
Creative hub adding non-custom blueprints as “new”
Only being given 45 seconds to choose a car in online adventures, when an old fart like me takes 45 seconds to press the A button
Rivals- Need I say any more?
Freeroam rush in the dark because my eyes are somewhat cream crackered
Being told to get off the game by my better half because she wants to watch “Britains Got Talent” on TV
Some silly plonker walking in front of the projector screen when I’m winning a race and before you know it im a Glastonbury Tree hugger in a mangled piece of metal
Driving co-op on the playlist only to be pummelled by “teammates” who have to win at the expense of losing a round to Drivatars
Brexit
The cost of living in the UK
The weather
I’ve gone off in a weird tangent, haven’t I? Anyway, that’s my 50 Pence worth. Now, where are my zip up bootie slippers and pipe and did i remember to charge the controller batteries?

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I do often wonder which is more painful to endure, Brexit or the FH4 waiting times…

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Each Forza Horizon game seems to take longer to load with every release on Xbox One S. FH4 is painfully slow to load. And fast travel sometimes takes much longer to load than manually driving to the location.

I just tried Horizon 1 which is installed on my 360. Loading takes 53 seconds and back then Playground Games allowed you to click to skip the logo splash screens too.

Yet an i7 4.0 GHz and SSD takes twice that long in 2019. We’re going backwards.

Loading times on Xbox are awful to be honest. Entering a race for example, the “select a car” screen will not appear for about 30 seconds sometimes, same thing happens when viewing cars in the garage. I’ve actually found that if you disconnect from the servers the entire game loads faster.

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sorry, duplicate post

Never gave it much thought, so I timed 4 accounts loading fh4 on one X1X after having played those 4 accounts on another X1X, so there’s a small sync save included in the average load time of 2 minutes 57.37 seconds.

I’d like to add my thoughts to this, since I now have a One-X and an external 5400rpm 2TB WD My Passport.

So as one would imagine, I was expecting dramatically improved loading times on a One-X - but was abruptly met with “One-X is not a Super-high end PC, and FH4 is a massive open world game”…

So I timed it - from the black 2018 PG Games loading/splash screen to pressing the A button and arriving at my designated car house/actual game, whatever. It took 1:55 - the same time as somebody else posted on YT after doing a comparison on One-S versus One-X loading times in FH4.

I had the game previously installed on the One-X’s internal, which although not timed, I believe is a few seconds slower than an external. The difference, however (between internal and external, unless you upgrade to SSD), is negligible in most games.
Anyway, if you’re getting under 2 mins or around 2 mins, then I think you’re all set. I was also somewhat disappointed with the load times in FH4, FM7 and few other load time intensive games after getting my One-X, but it’s expected I suppose.

The best thing to do is an external SSD but you’ll have to pay through the nose for those and with less storage capacity too compared to an eHDD which will offer nearly twice as storage space for almost half the price. Even if you do get an SSD, there are bottlenecks on the console itself that may hold back the SSD from showing its true potential.

My humble advice: enjoy the One-X, practice patience and do something else while it’s loading, LOL.

PS: I haven’t run comparisons against my OG-One console although I’m fairly certain it’s going to register a load time that’s a good few seconds higher than the One-X.

Whut? 45 seconds from splash/bootup screen to actual game? that’s impossible. Maybe i’m confused - perhaps you are talking about load times in other parts/areas of the game?

Are you talking about SP or MP load times? In SP, when I begin a race, the camera doesn’t even have a chance to move around all the way to the back of the car, it just loads halfway and the race begins! Also, zero lag on car selection screen. But this is in performance mode. Haven’t entered a race yet in quality mode - but there’s no lag in the car select screen.

Bit off-topic: I still see textures and mesh loading in around the sides of buildings and mountains when I’m driving fast especially. There’s still texture compression going on on the One-X? Thought there’d be zero texture pop in on the One-X. Oh well…

@Opencam, Single player, while connected to the servers the loading times are awful.

My experience of playing single player races vs online adventures is the latter takes massively longer to load, even between races. ie. you could expect the initial load to take a while because all 10-12 players need to download each other’s liveries for a start, so we’ll all be waiting for the person with the slowest internet, and there’s no way to get around that.

However, even during the adventure, and I’m talking about ranked where there’s no new players allowed to join, the loading times can be terrible. Whereas in single player they are relatively rapid, I mean just a few seconds. I assume this is because at least one of the other players in the room I’m in are using an Xbox console of some kind. I guess this is what happens when you use a 1.75GHz CPU. Obviously I don’t hold PG responsible for the Xbox’s anemic hardware. But, they did manage to make FH2 on the Xbox One load quicker than FH4 does, and it used the same basic game engine.

I just timed it from clicking the FH4 icon to being able to take control of the car in free roam mode - 2 minutes and 36 seconds total. Once the game is loaded things are not too bad though. It takes about 4 seconds to fast travel.

I’m on version 1903 of Windows though and this has added a long delay during the animated intro with the McLaren Senna. It wasn’t that bad before. The animation actually plays completely through once and starts playing again before freezing for a few seconds and then finally showing the continue prompt.

I just checked and I’m on 1803. I can currently click continue at the Senna intro within a few seconds. So I’m gonna have to wait longer in future when 1903 gets pushed out to the masses? That’s not good.

By the way, for those of us on Windows who want to time it and just to make sure we’re comparing like with like, the video I put up was after a reboot. ie. if you’ve got a lot of RAM and have played the game recently, if you were to load it up again, chances are it will be quicker due to being at least partly cached. I haven’t timed it when cached but I assume this is likely.

And yeah, some of the stuff in-game is reasonably quick, and plenty of things are a lot quicker than Motorsport 7 which has lengthy black screens because it just seems to be really inefficiently written. (The actual game itself loads quicker than FH4 though. Despite being about 100GB overall, which again proves the point that the overall size of the installation is moot when it comes to loading times.)

There are numerous irritating ‘little’ delays built-into FH4 which are not hardware-related but by design. eg. when it puts you into free roam, there is a few second delay before you are allowed to do anything, before you can click and bring up the map or whatever. These little delays, fade ins and outs etc. add up and add to a general feeling of lethargy rather than the snappiness I think most people would prefer.

There is another inexplicable delay at the end of online adventures where you have to wait something like 30 seconds while a camera laboriously pans towards your car and shows the big screen etc. before being put back to free roam. In single player, oddly, this delay is almost nothing. I can’t see any reason for it. Game design 101 is surely that you don’t keep the players waiting longer than they have to, especially in a game which takes a while to load anyway. Don’t add in unnecessary delays ON TOP OF the hardware-related delays.

I might be wrong about 1903 being to blame here

I just did a quick test that I was meaning to do - disable internet and time the start up again. The result is 1 min 11s but this is with a cached start (I have 32 Gig of RAM).

There is apparently an update check being done when the game is in the McLaren intro. I get a message about update check failed and I’ve seen this message sometimes when my internet is on.

Odd how it’s just 1 click to get into the game on FM7, but many more clicks before you’re in FH4. On the other hand FM7’s car selection response speed is just awful but FH4 is nice and quick. With FM7 sometimes I just want to pick a car, a track and go do a few laps by myself. It’s really convoluted in FM7 but dead simple in Horizon.

Another pet peeve in FH4 is the nag screen telling you that you’re winning too often and should up the difficulty. In FM7 this nag screen has a “Don’t ask again” check box.

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1 Minutes 18s for cold start with internet disabled.

What I don’t get is, when the splash screen appears where you have to press A on consoles to continue loading, why doesn’t the game start loading in the background while waiting for you to press A? All it’s doing is showing a splash screen.

If you leave it and come back an hour later and press A, it will still take just as long to load the game!!