I’m sure this topic is most likely for a small group of players within the Forza community, but this topic is for the players who race P class and P class only, they have been my favourite class of car since Forza 2 (R1 Class back then) but anyway, in Forza 4 we had a nice selection of cars within this class, ranging from Cadillac lmp1’s to Group C’s legendary Mazda 787b, Sauber C9, Peugeot 905 and more, then the jump to Forza 5, there was 3 Prototypes on the base game? I hope in Forza 6 we see a nice variety of Prototypes this time round, thankfully by the time this post was made 09/08/15 we have already seen a few prototypes, like the Audi E tron Quattro’s, BMW V12 LMR, Audi R15 TDI + and more, but I’m hoping we see some of the more iconic Prototypes in Forza 6, I am still hoping the Sauber C9 returns, maybe even the C11, the Mazda 787b, the Bentley Speed 8, Toyota GT-One, Perhaps even the most recent Le Mans Porsche’s 918 & 919 Hybrid. I Just feel like P Class does not really get mentioned much on the forums so I decided to dedicate this topic to it, feel free to share your opinions on this guys - Scott
Yep, I’m hoping for the major manufacture P1 cars (Porsche won’t be in the game till 2016 though. But Hopi g to see the Toyota and a few P2 chassis.
I think we will have much more and better prototypes this year than in FM5.
Actually we have the R8 (twice), R15++ and two versions of the R18 (2012 and 2014) and two Peugeot 908 HDi FAP, one from 2009 and the Oreca one which raced in 2011 (you can see this one in the background of the pic with the 787b/905 at Spa in the rain). Then there is still the Bentley Speed 8 '03, so we have seven prototypes which are quite actual.
Then we have BMW V12 LMR and in FM5 we had the Ferrari 333SP and the Toyota GT-One (TS020), three out of the late 90’s.
Out of the Group C days we will have the Mazda 787b and Peugeot 905, which are very nice. Twelve instead of three sounds pretty good for me.
Maybe we will get some more for release or later in a dlc pack. In my mind comes there the Toyota TS030/TS040 or maybe old Gr. C cars from Nissan, Sauber or Toyota, and because we know we will get 2016 a Porsche Expansion pack, there could be a 919 Hybrid or a Dauer 956/962(C). That are only some opportunities of cars that could be implented, but maybe one or another could make it into the game.
I am really happy with the cars we will get, and in combination with the tracks we have, I don’t miss anything.
Of course it would be cool when we have twenty more prototypes, but the selection from T10 is very good, so I am content.
When you put it like that then yes FM6 P Class sounds very promising, maybe the reason they were lacking in FM5 was because T10 had to rush the game in time for Xbox One launch, I also hope that with every new FM instalment the number of prototypes in the base game grows every time, for all we know there could still be at least 5 prototypes in FM6 that we just have not seen yet, I guess we will find out come September, thank you for your input - Scott
How can Turn 10 make the P class competitive though? No doubt some of these cars will be much faster than others. How do you run online lobbies that will be fair?
P class cars usually come with availible upgrades, but the better the car tthe less upgrades you can put on it for P class. There are usually additional tire width options and restrictor plate removals. I’m expecting the Audi R18 will be at the very top again. Lets say a BMW V12 LMR is racing the Audi R18. The R18 would probably be a stock car because it’s at the top of the class but the bmw may be running no restrictor plates or bigger tires.
Well there is a few ways to make it more competitive for example, instead of having just the “P Class” category, there could be other sub-classes within it e.g. Modern Prototypes - Peugeot 908, 2012 Audi e tron Quattro, 2014 Audi e tron quattro, Audi R15 TDI ++ , in real life I’m sure you would find that these cars would not be miles apart from each other in terms of performance so it keeps it competitive, then we could have Group C category, so this would include the likes of the Mazda 787B, Sauber C9 & C11, Peugeot 905, Toyota TS010, Jaguar XJR-9 etc, again…these cars are all similar in performance, and then we have the likes of the TS020 (Toyota GT-One), Bentley Speed 8, Audi R8 and the BMW V12 LMR all roughly within the same performance scale, so that could be one way to make it competitive, another way of making it more competitive is by making more cars able to compete, for anyone here who played P Class in FM5 you will know it was dominated by one car, the 787B, in FM4 we had the Sauber C9 and the 787b able to competitively race each other in R1, it was a different story in X Class but in FM4, where the Sauber dominated X Class, So to make it more competitve I say make more cars in the class perform at the same level as each other (or just nerf the 787B) haha - Scott
Not many like the ‘R’ or ‘P’ classes. It was hard enough on Forza 4’s Tuning Marketplace to get people interested in them, even if I was among the forerunners in those high classes which I spent most of my time on. But yeah I feel we’re owed a lot of higher class cars as Forza 5 was such a let down with them, it totally put me off an Xbone and I even got bored when playing FM5 on my dad’s Xbone. So here’s some love to the higher class cars and hope they give us a fair proportion of them to have fun in.
Agreed, out of all the classes, I feel that the P Class receives the least love, I have looked around the forums but everyone seems to be more interested in the lower class cars (C,B,A,S) and to an extent so does turn 10, excluding X Class, which I’m not even sure is in FM6 although I’m sure it will be, the class receiving the least cars is once again P Class, granted we are getting more Prototypes on the base game this time round compared to FM5, however, is 10-15 cars enough to play with when if you look at the lower classes they are probably more around the 30-40 cars per class? If the Prototypes that I have mentioned throughout this topic are not in the base game then I really do hope we see at least some of them in DLC’s and to flesh out P Class more it would be good to see at least 1 Prototype per DLC pack, but I doubt that. I guess we still have not seen the complete car list for FM6 so I’m still hoping there could be a few more surprises for us Prototype lovers! - Scott
Definitely, I’ll be hoping for some more higher class, we seem to have a really diverse bunch of lower class cars. If we can get as much as we can from 4 and 5, plus all the extras and what’s yet coming, I’d be chuffed. That’d be all the incentives needed to race them, hot lap them, and certainly will yield a lot of life to those among us that race on dedicated sites and forums and organise our own races and championships.
There’s still quite a few cars that were in the equivalent of P class on forza 4 that have not been announced yet like the Cadillac Northstar LMP1, the Chevrolet FLMO9 LMP2 and a Panoz LMP1 car… Those are of the top of my head, I’m sure there’s more and I hope there will be. I never thought my favorite prototype car would come in, the BMW V12 LMR but it did. P class is probably my favorite class, and I hope more cars will come in to make the grid more interesting.
I’m sorry I’m going to sound like a n00b here, but what is the P class? Is it like a R1 class, and S2 class, because I don’t have Forza 5. I’ve played all Forza’s on the X360 (except Horizon 1) and I’ve even played Forza 1, and I don’t have an XB1 so I don’t know the classes in Forza 5.
Yes P Class is the same as R1