Upon your exit from pit lane recall that your tires are cold and need to warm up on a few turns so don’t attempt out driving approaching traffic or the car that just made it past you as you on board the track
Don’t try and block approaching traffic but yield if that traffic is going considerably faster than your car, recall those cars have more tire grip than you do at that moment
As you approach pit lane slow down to allow for negotiation instead of trying to out-do the car in front of you
As you exit pit lane with another car immediately in front of you, don’t attempt heroics but instead focus of getting through that first corner quickly but safely with no collisions as the very act of such antics negates the reason for your pit stop
Yield to cars one lap ahead of you as yo exit pit lane. For example if you’re # 15 and as you exit you see approaching #1, 2, or 3, let them pass instead of trying to outrun them and impede their progress!
On Long Beach especially, cars existing pit lane should yield not scuffle with oncoming traffic because of that tricky turn one
The white line leading out of the pit exit is there for a reason, it is T10 who should implement some kind of penalty or something if you cross it while exiting the pits.
Also don’t really agree with yielding for people, cold tires or not if we are racing for position I will still go for it.
Good advice but also be aware that the person who just past you may not of pitted and be consirably further down the running order than you. Is that person going to yield to you I guess not. Will that persons driving ability seriously increase your chances of passing even with cold tyres i think so.
If you can get onto the racing line after leaving the pit area and after the white line ends then do so. The person behind will take the inside line if he has more speed. Obviously checking that you have time to do so without causing a inccident. The idea is to safely get in front of the person behind forcing a race situation where your cold tyres become the advantage holding them up until your upto rave pace. If the person behind truly has more grip they will get past.
Get into the pits as fast you can with out causing a crash the cars ghost on entry for a reason 2 can enter the pits at the same time.
Once you leave the white line from the pit exit the race is on. You have to take your chances when they appear cold tyres or not
Long Beach and spa have particularly awfully pit exits. Both exits can easily done if the racing traffic are on the racing line. But spa’s exit is where people overtake after the first corner often coming across the pit exit and long beach’s exit is where everyone cuts the first corner. Spa now has permanent ghosted pit exit and I’m not sure about long beach but it certainly should be.
That brings me to the point I replied to your post. Your putting alot of responsibilty on the “player” of the “game” and we all know that is not going to happen in the one place i race pits stops, public modernt gt endutance hoppers. The true solution to pit lane incidents is ghosted pit exits and improved automated/ghosted pit entrys. The quickstop feature is great but hugely inconsistent and needs some attention from t10 to ensure everyone can use the feature without loosing a position or wabbling down the pit lane uncontrollably. It’s certainly not fit for esports and asking people to compensate for those pitfalls in t10 system isn’t going to work
Wouldn’t it have been easier to just say that… 1. You are expecting racers to know the running order, we all know that is not going to happen. 2… You seem to be implying that it is okay to come out of pit lane and hold up first place racer when second place racer is right on his tail. 3.Pit lane is only so wide, where do you think you are going to get. Besides if you damage the car in front of you severely enough all the damage on the car will not be repaired at that pit stop, he would have to make another, thus costing him a race. 4. Do you really think trying to race past the racer in front of you when leaving pit lane is a good idea? You know as well as I do, cold tyres do not perform, been there. 5. it is the responsibility of the “player” in the “game”. to race responsibly. All his points were valid points, especially for the not so experienced. I have met many times on the interstate at the exit ramp, when yield, does not mean a darn thing. Seems almost the same here.
The op took the time to post something well thought out and informative the least we can do is the same on our responses. That’s how u spark a debate
As zee said this isn’t hard any competent player would know this information before pitting. At the very least they would know who hasn’t pitted and who has with in 3 places either way of there position
The aim of a successful pit is to get out of the pit in a good position. What I’m implying is that I’m not going to have the chance to get out in front of my opponent and think hold on my tyres are cold I best let them past. I know I can get round the corner without loosing control because of cold tyres. Exception to that would be any one of the aliens being behind me. I would let them past particularly if they are in a race with someone else
What zee said and since when have u been so badly damaged u don’t get all the repairs done. I play alot and have never experienced this
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Again what zee said. Cold tyres really aren’t any issue to me
The op makes 1 very good point quickstops don’t work very well and players are loosing out because of this. The only responsibilty the gamer has is to play the game as intended. It would seem t10 intended people to flat out into pits. They intended the white line to be ingored and they wanted cars to loose time in the pits randomly. What they didn’t intend on is a bunch of side rules that only a few really read that are unofficial and misleading. AnyOne adopting this strategy in modern gt endurance will get slaughtered and be at a disadvantage to everyone else who plays the game as intended.
Had this happen to me in the leagues more than once. It happens. Believe it or not. I have gone in and all repair was not completed. I would say it depends on the extent of damage. I have been so badly damaged by another racer, the car would not drive correct until I made a second stop.
The player leaving the pits knows the running order. He has just seen it, he knows how many times the approaching car has pitted.
The approaching player knows whether or not he has pitted, or how many times, and he knows that the player leaving the pits has pitted at least once.
So aside from a race with multiple stops, which would mean a private lobby where etiquette is higher anyway, there is no situation in multiplayer where both players don’t have the info to know whether they are racing for track position or one player is a pit-stop ahead of the other.
He’s saying you should do it properly; leave the pits, stay within the white line, then join the racing line if it’s safe to do so. Once you’ve done that you are no longer exiting the pits, you are racing, so if someone catches at that point they need to pass you like at any other time.
You should go into the pits as fast as you can (safely) because that’s what everyone else is doing, and expecting you to do. Slowing down unnecessarily is more likely to cause an accident than going in fast.
Of course you need to learn which tracks let you barrel in full tilt and the AI catches you and slows you down (Indy, Daytona), which make you slow down first (Laguna Seca, COTA, Atlanta), and which have pit-entries in a braking zone for a corner (Sonoma), but that’s just trial-and-error.
Cold tyres and no ABS still stops a lot quicker than warm tyres with ABS. A grip car with cold tyres still stops faster than a no-aero car with good tyres. He’s not saying that dive-bombing someone straight after you exit the pits is a good idea per se, he’s saying that the same considerations apply as at any other time - if you are alongside someone then you both need to hold your line through the turn. If you fail to hold your line and take them out then that’s no different from doing the same thing with warm tires.
I read the actual words that he wrote, in the context of the rest of his post. You appear to have imagined a meaning that clearly isn’t there, which was exactly my point.
Either way, the nub of the disagreement seems to be over whether etiquette should be based on [in]competence.
One point of view is that etiquette should be about minimising problems in mixed-skill lobbies. The other view is that etiquette should assume competent players, and that doing the correct thing badly isn’t the same as doing the wrong thing.
Since you can’t really have different etiquettes for different skill levels, I come down on the side of the second view.
If you are competent enough to pick your own clothes and put your pants on in the morning, you should be competent enough to have good racing etiquette.
