how most of the time I am faster with it on?
Go test it. Take the track you are most consistent and tune and go do 10-15 laps with sim damage on and off. I have done it and ran within .1 of my PB with both for the entire stint until I ran out of fuel.
you know what. whatever you want mate. suit yourself.
Yeah i have done it multiple times and always same results. Tires wear until i get this grip boost and then they go to [Mod Edit - Abbreviated profanity, profanity and profanity that is disguised but still alludes to the words are not permitted - D] really fast after that, just as i said on my previous post. Not trying to argue, just stating the obvious. Maybe try the game before saying nonsense?
How do you guys and gals have enough fuel to get to 80-90% tyre wear?
Some cars (especially old racing cars it seems) have very large fuel tanks or their consumption is extremely low. I’m currently doing a Forza P2 championship and the Mazda Lola can run almost double the distance of my Chevy Daytona Prototype - so much so that on a 40-lap race of Catalunya (may actually have been 30 laps, whatever the Extra Long career length was for that race) they didn’t need to pit AT ALL, and I only just scraped through by pitting once at a hair over half-distance. If the race was ~2 laps longer they would have needed to have pitted and I would have hauled them in (I reckon I had 5 laps of fuel left), but I couldn’t quite recoup the whole ~30 second pit-stop deficit over the course of the race.
I don’t know who anyone is here in this thread, and I am in no way attempting to be offensive, but I must put in my two cents for those that would come along, problem solving in the future.
Whoever said their is no tire wear till 90% is wrong. Flat wrong. Maybe a toddler set up the assists before they drove the game, but I can assure you this is wrong. I have the opposite problem with my driving of Forza 7. My tires run with a white outline for quite a few laps at say Spa, maybe 8 or 10 laps. Then they go to an orange outline. Then, depending on what kind of tire management I utilize, I can get another 5 to 8 laps, maybe more. At this stage the tires are perfect. The care is really most neutral at this stage and rotates nicely into and coming up off of the corners. I usually adjust my setup so that my car is fastest at this stage of wear. Then they go solid orange, and they become unusable in only a couple of laps if throttle and braking are perfect. In the end, I have to pit with 1/4 to 1/3 tank of fuel still, while the AI cars keep on keepin on. I am still faster than the competition with all assists off, using no mods, with everything set on simulation, using only a controller, on PC and on XBox alike. My problem is that I love endurance racing and I would love to double or triple stint the tires like the WEC, IMSA, and Blancpain drivers do.
I will repeat, I have been playing Forza 7 since the day it was released and I have never used a full tank of fuel! I have used a lot of tires, though.
No you’re simply just wrong. The tires really don’t have heavy effect until you hit about 80 or 90%. Sure the indicator says differently but lap times do not suffer.
Guarantee its your driving. If you are locking up or spinning the tyres a lot you are going to get more wear. But, you are going to say that you dont lock up the tyres or you dont spin and I am wrong. :Shrug:
Tyers do get affected a little but the fuel also makes you faster so it evens out most of the time, it depends on your car and tune and driving style and tracks.
On an oval I am slower with both on, on a start /stop track I am pretty much going to be faster.(until I run out of fuel)
Fuel burn isn’t stimulated.
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I can only tell how it feels for me:
at the start of the race it needs a few corners to warm up the tires than i have high grip until about the end of lap 2 - menas i can be verry agressive on steeringwheel and brakes without loosing grip. From lap 2 to about 10 ( tires at about 90%) the grip is reducing more and more but i can go the same laptimes as in the beginning by acting very smooth at wheel and pedals. From this point down to tirecondition 25% i dont notice much change. No proof no evidence - it’s just how it feels for me.
It feels that way because that’s how it works. The tires have three main states: cold, warm, and worn-out. They start cold. Then it may vary depending on car, tire type, and driving, but somewhere around four or five minutes of driving, the tires are warmed up and perform best. They perform the same until they are worn-out, at which point there is noticeably less grip.
At any point, you can temporarily overheat the tires by skidding or wheelspin, which will accelerate wear and reduce grip until they cool again.