A lot of fun but also a lot of pain as well having to connect every week for these damn repetitive challenges and getting the weekly cars again and again for collection ; even if it was 1h at most, it still had the effect to force me playing, which in the end considerably lowered my eagerness to play FH5 when they announced it.
I was very happy when they stopped releasing cars in July, i thought to myself : “a break from these repetitive challenges, at very long last”
Since then, i uninstalled everything Forza related to take a well deserved break so i could build up some adrenaline for Horizon 5 cause i really miss that feel.
I didn’t look at a single preview video, the only thing i looked for was when they announed the map because i really needed to know if it would be bigger and more diverse.
Now i took the plunge at my first 2 min official video displaying the new cars sounds and for the first time i felt that great eagerness because of all the work that seems to have been made on that point. With the smallness of the map, cars sounds were the second big issue you had when you played for more than 6 months because despite having 800 cars, a lot of them sounded completely equal and dull.
Anyway, I just wanted to know if you guys felt the same after so many hours on FH4 ?
Did you take a break so adrenaline and envy would build up again after all this time ?
Did you preserve your eyes and ears from videos and pics to keep it fresh for the release ?
From what I have seen so far, the grind will be even worse in fh5. The whole thing looks like one giant todo list designed to keep kids busy. The festival map looks like something from Dora the Explorer. Just not sure this one is going to make my purchase list. I took a break from hr4, but not to get excited for fh5, I took a break from fh4 because of the complete mess they left the game in. Not only does online racing take forever, now you get lobbies full of speed hackers racing each other while you just hope to finish the race in time.
You realize you had the option to not play the playlist right? Even if you absolutely needed all of the cars (which is a tiny bit rediculous), there was always re-releases, forzathon shop, auction house, and now the backstage pass. The playlist was entirely avoidable.
Still baffled by the people who call racing cars boring and repetitive. What did you buy this game for? What are you doing when you play it? I don’t understand.
And I enjoy doing all of those things too (except playground games). It’s just… What’s the point of tuning of you’re not going to race? What’s the point of painting of you’re never going to flaunt it?
Also the threshold for racing requirements in this game are so low . Any other car game has far higher requirements when it comes to racing, unless you consider GTA a car game. It’s barely a whisper of race commitment.
To be clear, I’m not judging or criticizing, I’m just failing to understand.
They need to get something back for adding cars into the game, in order to justify the cost of adding them. Adding them onto the playlist in order to bring up player involvement and retention is FAR more consumer friendly than what they did before, which was put new cars mostly behind paywalls. I could see both being in order so users could have the choice, but like I said, they can’t just give you the cars for free. Development costs need to be covered, servers need to be maintained, Investments need to mature, and employees need to be compensated somehow.
To progress through the game while collecting and driving interesting cars, and maybe making a new paint job if I get inspired. I don’t get these games to aimlessly race the same courses over and over chasing milliseconds on a leaderboard or something.
And in that vein, I haven’t taken a break from FH4 or FM7 - I’ve just been done with with them. I have revisited them from time to time, but there’s little left there to hold my interest for long. Certainly not the weekly chore list. I look forward to devouring FH5. It promises to be something slightly new and interesting for a bit.
I did the opposite, went back to FH2, FH3, and FM7, and grinded out all the things needed to raise my forza hub tier (which is still glitched) looking forward to a little more rewards to start FH5, that definitely killed my fun with horizon games just doing tedious objectives only for a week later to see that they are cancelling forza hub and loyalty rewards. Comical timing, so now I haven’t even preordered FH5 and will see if they do anything that to me is worth preordering the ultimate edition to me before November, there are other big games coming out this holiday
When I make a paint job it’s mainly for self satisfaction. I get a small amount of enjoyment out of the notifications of people getting and using my designs, but that doesn’t require me showing off. Indeed, I don’t PvP at all, or play with anyone other than my friends.
Tuning is the same for me. It’s not unusual for me to have spent more time fiddling with tuning a car than I ultimately spend racing it. And some of my tunes are purely novel - like taking the old Alpine with its rear mount engine and jury rigging a drivable FWD tune for it. None of them are likely up to snuff for the hardcore racing crowd.
Hey I’m right there with you when it comes to building tunes for yourself (not the meta) and snubbing competitive play, but doing a 3 race championship is a far cry from hardcore racing. From my perspective, that’s like dipping a foot in the water and calling it swimming. And I don’t know about you but I’d MUCH prefer that new cars are locked behind races than the alternatives.
I don’t terribly mind cars being locked behind races that aren’t only available for a limited time and which adhere to my chosen difficulty settings. But I’d take purchased DLC over limited time races that force you to play on the game’s time rather than your own eight days a week. This growing tendency of games to try and force engagement on their time is bloody annoying.
Well I prefer the engagement. I feel it’s far more consumer friendly and a much better option overall. However, I would prefer having both options even more. More options is always better.
Not sure how they’d handle the auction house though if that were the case. That’s the only issue I see with a dual option system. It’s not enough of an issue in my mind to stop me from wanting the dual option system. But I’m a consumer, auction house deflation is nothing but a boon for me. I could see how it could be a big issue for the developers.
I’ve never felt like I had to play any given week, even if there were cars I wanted. The auction house usually provided, and even when it didn’t, it was usually back in a couple months on the playlist or in the forzathon shop. I managed to snag an R26.R fairly quickly after it launched even though I absolutely refuse to play Eliminator, for example. I very much wanted the car, but I didn’t feel particularly stressed to get it.
I didn’t plan on …taking a break but I stopped playing Motorsport 7 a year ago…too repetitive and for the past 3 months…I have barely completed a Weekly Challenge menu in Horizon 4…no new cars for me and they are not even offering clothing items I don’t have…all old stuff…I wish they would start offering DLC cars as prizes because the game is basically done…I haven’t preordered Horizon 5 yet…I wonder will there be some cool barn finds…will we finally get the Jensen Interceptor?..I doubt it…Will the Ford Pinto return?..I noticed that Mazda is not included in the Car list…?!?..Please bring back the Hot Wheels expansion orange tracks from Horizon 3 …the most fun I had on X Box One…I’m kind of disappointed at how things ended at Horizon 4 but I am starting to get ready for Horizon 5…please bring back the Car Meets too!
Gonna stop in a bit and say goodby to 4. Starting off 5 using “beginning type cars” when can and grind for a bit. Way different than I played the others. it was overwhelming with cars in 4!
Talking about that did they change the way you progress through 5 compared to 4 ?
Are we going back to a real progression in 5 like you seem to be saying ?
This would be sooooo much better starting with lower class cars again and having to beat bosses and going up the rank to get faster cars. As of today, the first horizon is still unmatched on this point.
Sorry to disappoint, but it’s not going to be like that. FH5’s single player is going to be an open ended, “do what you want” sort of affair. If you played the Lego expansion, you’ll have a small idea what it will be like, but it’ll be even more open than that.
You’re collecting points to unlock progression, but there are hundreds (maybe thousands) of small assignments you can do in order to progress. PGG knows there are going to be people who complete all of the tasks, but you’re not expected to. The idea is that if you really like an aspect of the game (say road racing), you can choose to make that the focus of your single player experience, and if you really don’t enjoy an aspect of the game (say stunt driving) you can choose to avoid it.
Personally I prefer the open format, but I understand that others will disagree. To me Forza Horizon has always been about the freedom, so a single player that embraces that concept from the beginning is right up my alley.
I stopped playing the week after the Vuhl was added. At that point I’d collected at least one of every single car in the game and for me that signalled the end. Done everything else in the game and had grown tired of the online experience and the repetitive nature of the races to obtain the new cars. I upgraded to a Series S and won’t be playing Forza again until Nov 5th when FH5 is available for me. Had a blast on 4 but really looking forward to a fresh start with a new map and new cars.
The only problem there is that in 4 there wasn’t enough of any one thing to focus down like that, and things like “DIRT” races were almost always ~80% tarmac anyway. Hopefully with the “biome” mad hyping, there will be bigger areas for more actual dirt races and similar, but I still don’t imagine there being north of 100 races on the map all told, and I do worry that it will get stale just as quickly as 4 did.
Having said that, The Crew 2 had like 6 different eventa for Air Racing, and I grinded a single one of those, hundreds of times, to get Icon 600, so maybe it is just all around artificial incentives, and I don’t even really care about the La Ferrari that that unlocked in THe Crew 2. But again, those events were distinctive, something that Horizon hasn’t managed since 2.
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