Hello, I have never played any Forza games until yesterday. I am customized to driving physics like GTA. My favorite car has always been the Lamborghini as I could smoke anyone in it in GTA. I have been playing it for two days and holy cow cornering is a nightmare to learn on here. I have no idea how some players are able to go around the corner without losing any speed. I thought upgrading the tires would help but it just barely does. It is not so much the wide corners as it is the sharp corners. What really messes me up is taking a wide corner and 2 seconds later encountering a sharp left or right corner.
The only vehicle that I don’t have a problem making corners is the Ram 2500 Heavy Duty Power Wagon. Because of that difference I don’t have nearly as much as a problem in dirt racing then street racing; unless the adventure doesn’t let my Power Wagon in the race. I really really wish you have the option of taking your cars to a private track where I can practice cornering without worrying about traffic. Any tips?
You can practice without traffic in the rivals events.
It sounds like you are tuning the car yourself. Tuning is a huge skill in its own right in Forza, and you’re unlikely to be producing good tunes if you’re new to the game and are just messing about with the upgrades and settings. Most tunes you can download in the game are terrible, because people just share them to try to get legendary status, and that rewards creating lots of rubbish tunes rather than spending a lot of time making a smaller number of really good tunes. I have quite a few shared tunes, and obviously I regard my own tunes as pretty good. Other forum members whose tunes are worth trying are Jadigafer7 and V12 SprungBoss. Grandma Driving is another tuner who I find pretty reliably produces good tunes. There are some people, e.g. Rayne SE and Nalak28, who produce tunes that are good, but they are generally geared towards expert drivers. By all means try their tunes, but if you find them hard to control, you may prefer tunes by the other people I mentioned.
The roads are wet at the moment so they are slippery. You need to learn to turn before you get to the bends so that you slide sideways to time the bend perfectly. Yes, and tunes are important, but I just grab the 5 star tunes, and they work for me.
Haha comparing an arcade car physics game to a more proper racing styled game. You have to think you trying to drive a normal car. Keeping that balance of the body shift and accelerating or holding the speed depending on corner length. Basically forget how you drove on gta.
Possibly irrelevant but If you have deactivated ABS, it is possibly going to take you more time to get comfortable with managing the corners ( even though possibly better to do so from start)
Weight matters, regardless PI etc, the more weight you have the more difficult are the corners.
Doing your own tunes is the good direction to take, it is big part of value of the game ( for legacy players at least ) . It takes a lot of time but own tune adds value to a win. It will also help you to choose the good car depending on the conditions.
Coming to Forza, or other serious (or semi-serious) racing games from a mostly video game background, one of the hardest things to learn isn’t how to go fast, but how to slow down. You can’t take corners at full speed, and drifting, with maybe a few exceptions, is not the fastest way around a corner.
Thank you guys for the tips. I started driving last night on manual with clutch. I could turn corners much better as I down shift before the corner. I might try with just the manual without the clutch after watching that video. I just read that driving with the clutch allows you to switch gears faster but if there is no real difference then I will stick with manual. It also helped that dad who raced cars in his AMX in Germany gave me some cornering tips. He said he geared down before a corner and when you are coming out you punch it.
You don’t necessarily need to change down before a corner, it depends entirely on the type of corner, the car and the speed you’re doing. Just like real life.
Another thing to be aware of is that you cannot ‘turn the wheel’ as quickly in this game as in a real life car, but you can only turn it relatively gradually, even if you turn all the steering assists off. The game has a permanent hidden assist which prevents you from steering as quickly as you need to, so you have to work around this limitation and make the best of it. The steering is good for long gradual sweeping corners but horrible for tight ones, or even gradual high speed ones which change direction and need quick steering input, which would work in real life, but this game doesn’t let you do it. It’s like the developers have seen pictures of cars but never actually driven one themselves so don’t understand how real cars drive. Who knows, but it is what it is. I expect GTA actually drives more realistically.
Use the full Driving/Breaking line aid for faster vehicles. Rewind will be helpful as you learn tracks as well. The Huracan is a really easy to drive and fast S1 900 car if you want to drive a Lambo. There are lots of other great cars available though. I practically learned about cars playing Gran Turismo 15 or so years ago. You’ll get the hang of racing sims soon if you stick with it. Forza, with all of its aids and swaps, is more forgiving than most.
Forza isn’t for you, sorry. Perhaps stick to GTAV or learn proper driving technique. FH is fun and accessible, but it does not have full-blown arcade physics - you still need proper skill and some basic knowledge of how cars react IRL under braking, acceleration, high speed and low speed cornering, gear shifts, etc.
It’s not about the tune, the upgrades or the car you’re driving - rather more about understanding how cars behave in a variety of road conditions. Go to Forza Motorsport and I think you’ll find the driving shocking after playing GTAV… LOL!
The reason I mentioned tunes is the OP talked about online adventures, racing against other people, and not being able to hold the same speed as other people through corners. The tune will have a huge effect on the speed that can be carried through corners relative to other people. A bad tune can be 10 seconds slower than a good tune of the same car over a 3 minute race.
All the mocking of GTA V racing tempt me to think the one’s mocking never raced on a competitive level in GTA V.
Sure, the physics in place are different to Forza and that’s why AgreeingChip411 seems to have problems to adjust to Horizon but high-level driving in GTA V is at least as demanding as it is in Horizon.
Without driving experience and understanding of the gameplay mechanics and physics you will be slow as hell in GTA V.
At OP:
“Driving School” videos may be helpful for the basic understanding of racing lines, braking points & driver vs. driver interaction but in the end the only true thing to improve is practice. Over and over again. Getting used to the physics in place, remembering braking points for the different turns, how to manually shift efficiently and so on.
Car building & tuning is the icing on top and requires massive amounts of time, knowledge and testing to provide the best results for your playstyle.
Could not agree more. I played thousands of multiplayer races in GTAV, and despite of major flaws, I had a lot of fun, and it was very competitive. And GTAV has a lot of features missing from FH4 : proper lobby settings selection by the host, vote for next race, invite to lobby, best lap display, car selection before each race, very customizable race creator … The major flaws are the catchup system and cars performance sometimes changing with updates.
