For anyone that knows what the Continental Tire racing series is, its definitely one of the best racing series on the planet, in my opinion better than parent series Tudor. Its basically everyday sports cars such as Camaros, 911s, Mustangs, 370Zs, STIs, M3s, and also Civics, Miatas, and Caymans (and others) that are as close to stock as possible racing side by side in two classes. No crazy aero kits or huge horsepower numbers, just close and fair true stock cars racing.
I think a two class racing series with these cars (have to wait for the porsches) with mainly just tires, brakes, trans, and weight reduction changes would be awesome. Of course a few adjustments would have to be made to some cars to make it fair but this kind of racing would be extremely close and very competitive.
I have no experience with setting these up, Im just throwing the idea out there, but let me know if anyone would want to do this kind of racing or be willing to set it up.
This is the kind of league that I’m waiting for. There use tone the Forza Sports Car Series back in FM4, but haven’t seen one since. I would to see this kick off.
I have recently build a load of cars for a championship like this!
Have built the following:
Audi S3
BMW 235i
Lexus is350
Mitsubishi Evo X
Subaru Impreza STi
Volkswagen Golf Mk7 R
All with the same sort of build you have mentioned
I agree its a great series, I’d love to get involved in somthing like this
Count me in for sure
So far I’ve gone over the rules of IMSA CSCS and built some ST as close to the rules as I could and keep them competitive, with the exception of the 235i since that’s not an original car and the Genesis because it’s the 3.8 and not the 2.0T.
ST cars so far:
Mazda Mazdaspeed3
Audi S3
Mazda MX-5 (2013)
Civic Si (2014)
BMW 235i
Hyundai Genesis
I’ll send the builds I have for them so y’all can test them and give feedback.
I would love to see how your st cars match up. Ive been working on the GS cars and its pretty challenging. But so far the cars are all around the top of A class and are pretty even. Had to add alot of horsepower to the STI and 370Z.
love the sounds of this. I was working on a similar idea back in fm4 but it never came to fruition. I will defiantly be following this thread. If you need a hand on builds or testing; I am definatly willing to help. Keep us posted.
I’m down to race, and help with the builds I raced in forza Sports car series in fm4 and they had an amazing setup.
reminds me of the toyo tire challenge. count me in. im assuming the builds will be like C430 not staright up B600 or C500 class?
Here are the ST car builds I have. All cars had a base tune done and then ran on COTA. I’ll post the times I have a write what I think it’s the pros and cons are. All cars have a mandatory Final Drive ratio.
Audi S3:
Engine:
Sport Flywheel
Platform and Handling:
Race Springs and Dampers
Race Sway Bays
Race Chassis
Drivetrain:
Sports Transmission (Final Drive 4.77)
Sport Diff
Tires and Rims:
Race Tires
225/40R18 F&R
Any wheels
B576 with lightest wheels
Pros:
- Balanced car
- Very easy to drive
Cons:
- Car doesn’t have any real strengths
- It takes aggressive driving to be fast
- Inconsistent competitiveness throughout different tracks
COTA time: 2:29.729
Road Atlanta: 1:35.476
Edit: Weight Penalty
BMW M235i:
Engine:
Sport Flywheel
Platform and Handling:
Race Springs and Dampers
Race Sway Bays
Race Chassis
Sport Weight Reduction
Drivetrain:
Sport Clutch
Sports Transmission (Final Drive 3.73)
Sport Diff
Tires and Rims:
Race Tires
225/40R18 F
245/35R18 R
Any wheels
B576 with lightest wheels
Pros:
- Neutral Handling
- Can accelerate earlier out of corners, but
Cons:
- because of taller gears, low end torque is absent
COTA: 2:29.286
Road Atlanta: 1:35.986
'14 Honda Civic
Engine:
Race Filter
Sport Intake Manifold
Race Fuel
Race Exhaust
Sport Oil/Cooling
Sport Flywheel
Platform and Handling:
Sport Brakes
Race Springs and Dampers
Race Sway Bays
Race Chassis
Race Weight Reduction
Drivetrain:
Sport Clutch
Sports Transmission (Final Drive 4.76)
Sport Diff
Tires and Rims:
Race Tires
225/40R18 F&R
Any wheels
B588 with lightest wheels
Pros:
- Very quick
- Very responsive
Cons:
- Short gears
- Very strong torque steer
COTA: 2:29.312
Road Atlanta:1:35.817
Hyundai Genesis:
Engine:
Street Filter
Sport Flywheel
Platform and Handling:
Sport Brakes
Race Springs and Dampers
Race Sway Bays
Race Chassis
Drivetrain:
Sport Clutch
Sports Transmission (Final Drive 3:72)
Sport Diff
Tires and Rims:
Race Tires
245/40R19 F&R
Any wheels
B565 with lightest wheels
Pros:
- Fastest car down the straights
Cons:
- Car is heavy and sluggish
- Car can be tail happy
- I find this car inconsistent
COTA time: 2:29.369
Road Atlanta: 1:35.239
Edit: Upgraded filter, brakes and front tires.
'13 Mazda MX-5 (Hardtop):
Engine:
Sport Filter
Sport Fuel
Race Exhaust
Sport Camshaft
Sport Piston
Sport Oil/Cooling
Sport Flywheel
Platform and Handling:
Street Brakes
Race Springs and Dampers
Race Sway Bays
Race Chassis
Sport Weight Reduction
Drivetrain:
Sport Clutch
Sports Transmission (Final Drive 4.10)
Sport Diff
Tires and Rims:
Race Tires
225/40R17 F
235/40R17 R
Any wheels
B563 with lightest wheels
Pros:
- Superb Handling
- Quick out of exits
Cons:
- Will get burned on straights
COTA time: 2.29:231
Mazda 3:
Engine:
Race Filter
Sport Ignition
Street Exhaust
Sport Oil/Cooling
Sport Flywheel
Platform and Handling:
Street Brakes
Race Springs and Dampers
Race Sway Bays
Race Chassis
Race Weight Reduction
Drivetrain
Sport Clutch
Sports Transmission (Final Drive 3.53)
Sport Diff
Tires and Rims:
Race Tires
225/40R18 F&R
Any wheels
B590 with lightest wheels
Pros:
- Torque steer is almost non-existent
- Well balanced for a FWD
Cons:
- Runs out of steam on the straights
- Taller gears takes a little out of the acceleration
COTA time: 2:29.226
Great work up man, hope this comes together !
Alright man thats awesome awesome work. Im going to hurry up and finish with the GS cars but I was trying to leave the actual transmissions alone and just upgrade the clutch. So far the Z/28 is heavy but great and easy to handle while being mid pack speed. Mustang and Aston Martin are both very strong on the straights but lack in braking. The Aston is being very difficult to balance as stock it already comes with 565 hp, weight doesnt really seem to do much, and its really not too hard to drive. But it is seeming to turn around the same lap times. The BMW is pretty much mid pack everywhere, seems a little stronger acceleration and speed than Camaro and is very easy to drive. Havent had much time with the 370Z but its very light as is but is a little harder to drive and lacks top speed. Still working on Subaru, as hp continues to not be enough. Kind of want to keep 4wd cars slower because they are so easy to drive but the Subie is still off the pace too much.
I will try and finish in the next day or so and then Ill make another post on the forums to see exactly how many people would be interested and then start some private lobbies. I have no experience with setting up leagues so an organized racing series will have to come later when someone is willing to set it up.
Definitely interested in joining your league, but really want to use the Aston as I’m following the TRG team this year.
I’m a newb when it comes to “league” lobbies. Will there be a schedule of race times? Are we to choose the same car for each race to keep as realistic as possible.
Yes id like for people to stick with the same car but it really doesnt matter. Brand loyalty should keep people rooted. But no this isnt super organized and complicated. I personally have no experience setting up leagues, this would just be a lobby where we recreate races similar to the actual CTSC. In the future hopefully it will become bigger. Right now theres not enough people interested and no real feedback from the designated car setups from me and OneBigMan43. So once those are complete we can get the meet ups going
Can’t wait for this to take off!