The Rivalmode, there the most aged Players are looking for is at least a cheap copy of the First FM7 Rivalmode Layout!
It is an open World Game.why they limited the
Tracks in Rivalmode only for one car?and mostly
in serial Parameters? Goliath only once for a Ferrari
without any upgrades and open S2 class only???
what is with all the other cars in the lower classes
who are also fine to drive , like in fully Upgraded
d500 or c600.???
the Thing we are most excited for is completely
destroyed by the developers.
Im totally with you.
the Rivals in FH4 -The Mode, there the most aged Players are looking for is at least a cheap copy of the First FM7 Rivalmode Layout!
Why did the turn10 guys do such dump things.
It is an open World Game.why they limited the
Tracks in Rivalmode only for one car?and mostly
in serial Parameters?
what is with all the other cars in the lower classes
who are also fine to drive , like in fully Upgraded
d500 , c600 or b700???
the open Leaderboard we are most excited to race
for is completely minimized to the storybased cars
we get by the developers.
so please lets go back to the Original Rivalmode –
with all available Tracks in all 7 classes & perhaps
in all 4 Seasons of a year…
The Rivalmode, there the most aged Players are looking for is at least a cheap copy of the First FM7 Rivalmode Layout!
Why did the turn10 guys do such dump things.
It is an open World Game.why they limited the
Tracks in Rivalmode only for one car?and mostly
in serial Parameters?
what is with all the other cars in the lower classes
who are also fine to drive , like in fully Upgraded
d500 or c600.???
the Thing we are most excited for is completely
destroyed by the developers.
PLEASE.give us back the Original classbased Rivalmode
with all available Tracks in all 7 classes.
How much do we love Rivals Mode? If like me you like Rivals mode more than online racing and racing AI you may well be disappointed by the lack of custom Rivals options. For example, I have recently built and painted a #16 Lotus Exige R-GT replica up to A800. It looks great and goes well too. I went into Rivals to see where I can race it. Point to point rivals events are great. They are like doing a rally stage. I was very disappointed to see that there is only one event I could enter this car into. The “A” Class Elmsdon on Sea Sprint.
Now this is a great route, don’t get me wrong, but firstly, it is a bit odd suddenly switching into the middle of winter and back to autumn every time you enter the event. Secondly… well there is no secondly because there are no other events to enter in this car.
Rivals mode has existed since before The original Forza Horizon. It has been embraced by every game since and it has grown into a bigger and better mode. FM7 made the mistake of trying to stop it to the uproar of the Forza community and they had to bring it back. Now FH4, without learning from the error of it’s older brother has gone and made the same mistake.
Please, Rivaleers, rally round and POST A REPLY if you too want to see every track for every class in every season come to FH4. Let the voice of the Forza community be heard again, loud and strong. Godspeed to you all my fellow Rivaleers. Let the games commence!
I’m hoping open rivals will make a return with the route creator. I’ll be quite disappointed if we can create our own dream courses only to have them spoiled by the AI crashing into us every few seconds.
That said, I do like the challenge of everyone using the same car in the same conditions on some of the rivals events. But I hope we get an option to run each route with open rivals soon, even if there’s no online leaderboard per route, I like to test cars against each other and running against the AI brings far too many variables (mostly involving being crashed into regularly).
I think just less of the specific car versions. Or at least when it is a really good track to also have the option of an open class. The Juggernaut has the best options so far, X, S1 and S2. Can’t they do that for some of the other routes and circuits? Also keep the variety of weather conditions, that’s a nice touch!
I miss class based rivals to! This mode is one of my favourites! Bring class based rivals on every route please! And would be great if it will be supported with route creator too. Come on - this is so simple and easy to do? Why do you keep removing it from second game in a row and then bringing it back after realising how players love it.
It’s a shame, Rivals was a relaxing way to compete without diving into the often toxic cesspool of Forza multiplayer. I loved getting creative with different builds to get a sleeper up on the leader boards or battle back and forth with a club mate or friend. Best of all for us folks with jobs and kids it allowed me to do it on my time.
I don’t really understand all the complaining about FH4 Rivals. Yes, the workflow is poor, and I’ve raised some requests for improvements in the feature request thread, but the variety of events is very good, there’s something for everyone in there. You’ve got stock events, division / car type events, class based events, events with tuning allowed with varying degrees of freedom.
For example, it has the following events for classes with no other restrictions:
A class: Road Racing, Elmsdon On Sea Sprint
S2 class: Road Racing, The Goliath
C class: Cross Country, Ambleside Rush Cross Country
S1 class: Cross Country, City Outskirts Cross Country
X, A S1 classes: various Drag Racing
It has a lot more events for a combination of car type and class, e.g.
B class Classic Muscle: Road Racing, Horizon Festival Circuit
S2 class Hypercars: Road Racing, Derwent Lakeside Sprint
C class Classic Sports Cars: Road Racing, Derwent Reservoir Sprint
etc
I think this is much better than having a leaderboard for every combination of track and car type, and every combination of track and class, as it concentrates competition into a smaller number of leaderboards, while still having enough of them that it would take a very long time to go through them all and experiment with every possible build for every event.
What I don’t understand is why having a not limited Rivals Mode would be worse than having a restricted one as you seem to like. There are a lot of category of racers… I like to race S2. What’s left to me on Rivals mode? Goliath and Derwent Lake (raining)? FH3’s Rivals mode was absolutely fantastic with all options available, and don’t blame lost of focus. It’s absolutely frustrating having to do races with restricted stock cars. I’m not even mentioning the tuning limitations where you don’t have a proper place to test modifications. If you want to be focused on an event Monthly Rivals was always there. Just don’t try to justify this atrocity they have made to the Rivals Mode. On FM7 they had to go back. They will have to do it as well on FH4 because that’s what majority of Rivals mode players want.
There just comes a point when there’s too many options to have effective competition, FM7 has become the equivalent of the Olympics not just having running events for 100m, 200m, 400m etc, but having 101m, 102m, 103m etc. Sure, someone might feel that they are specifically a 172m running specialist, running anti-clockwise, at night, but most people would just think it was a joke.
Having said that, it clearly hasn’t worked in FH4 in terms of concentrating numbers of drivers into the available rivals events, as the numbers of people who have driven each event is very small for the events I’ve looked at. I’m #11 on the world leaderboard for one, out of a whopping 1687 players. Maybe there is a different composition of the available events that would be more appealing to people, without crazily inflating the total number of events.
What is wrong with inflating the number of events?
That is the problem and why the current rivals system is hopeless. People prefer driving different classes on every track. Right now there is nothing on offer and I personally will run out of things to do since I hate all aspects of Multiplayer. However, I would never try to suggest that Multiplayer should be diluted.
I know that many people don’t appreciate what full class based rivals has to offer, but I can assure you that many do. It was our intention to restart a weekly Hot Lap Competition in Horizon 4 at the end of October but without class based rivals there just aren’t enough tracks with leaderboards to make it work. We are hugely disappointed!
With the old system though in our club we could say “OK guys and girls this week it’s C class 172 yards backwards and at night- go for it”
You’d see that pretty often- the competitive clubs all with multiple times at the top of a certain leaderboard. That’s because they’d been rivalling each other backwards and forwards for a week, sending each other letters.
Don’t forget FM7 had its leaderboards reseted after almost an year after release. FM7 had a even more serious problem because they turned Rivals mode into a big Monthly Rivals. It clearly didn’t work and lots of players have abandoned it or make it just a casual racing game. They fixed this design decision only nearby FH4 release but the damage was made. So I don’t think your comparison is kind of fair…
FH4 otherwise has all the tracks available and I don’t see how could be bad having all classes available with tuning enabled. Do you feel lost choosing your option? Want that Turn 10/ Playground chooses it for you? Monthly Rivals is your best bet. There you can drive your beautiful stock car defined by developers on a track also chosen by them. Now it’s kind of nonsense thinking that this should be the only option of game for ALL players. Totally different situation.
A big drawback of monthly rivals is it has no permanence, the leaderboard just disappears at the end of the month.
It’s not that I’d feel lost choosing my option, more that everyone will choose different options which makes for a poor competition. However, I’m coming round to it being okay to have every class for every track provided only performances done in Rivals mode count for leaderboards. I thought FM6’s leaderboards were very poor quality, with lots of performances on them that clearly weren’t attempts at optimising performance for that class, they were just whatever people had happened to do in career mode.
There would also be a problem with seasons and weather conditions, though. Do we really want a leaderboard for Track A, in season B, at time of day C, in conditions D, class E, for every possible combination of A / B / C / D / E?
You may not want options but plenty of people do. I’d go even further than that and have an extra leaderboard option to show lap times done in the same car you’re in. It’s just a database so it’s not like it would take a lot to implement.
it’s 2018 for crying out loud, storage is $0.01/GB, just upload all clean laps everyone does in every season/condition and let people blueprint their own rival race however they like, pulling rivals from the list filtering by the conditions of the blueprint