Chicane cutting!

Unfortunately, track limit inconsistencies and exploits have been around ever since Forza Motorsport 3 but I have to say that there seem to be a larger number of exploitable corners on Forza Motorsport 6[/] than in previous titles.
Personally I don’t see these being “fixed” at all. The Hotlapping community is very small (only a few thousand players) and with no Leaderboard API to extract data from it has become pointless to “attack the boards” in the way that Hotlapping teams used to do in the past. As such these exploitable corners only come to light when an event like the Lamborghini Rivals takes place on them.
As far as the game is concerned, if a lap is “clean” it’s legitimate, so if you can clip a corner in such a way that it remains “clean” then go ahead and clip it all day. The in-game timing system works in absolutes, it is not an honour system.

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Yeah i completely agree, and even the turn 10 guys themselves are cutting the monza chicanes, its boderline hilarious :joy: Lol Only reason i think its monza is to do with it being and italian marque event so theyve started it on an italian track. To be honest its the first time ive ever actually raced on monza and im well into the level 200’s. I noticed its starting to appear in the hoppers since the recent patch now too.

I hate track cutting - not kerb cutting, I mean flying through a chicane in a straight line, often times in a Land Rover or the new Porsche SUV, taking out a few other players in the process. Kerb cutting is fine as long as it’s two wheels. Most times it doesn’t improve your time per se, it just makes the corner more ‘comfortable’.

I tend to ignore the track cutters like I ignore the idiots who try to drive the wrong way, or the ones who handbrake turn right before the finish line!

More of a problem is the players who have very poor connection and are glitching all over the track, often times completely taking out several players in one glitch.

An even bigger problem, which really ruins the play for me, is noobs who don’t take time to learn tracks before joining lobbies. Most times I’m taken off track is by noobs braking WAY too late or completely missing a turn (Daytona…), or using a car with absolutely zero handling on a circuit with a hundred corners.

The biggest problem is high level players ‘cheating’, usually when I overtake their S2000 in my Ford RS2000… of course, they use me as their brake at the next corner…

I don’t think you’ll ever have a public racing lobby which doesn’t include at least one noob, SUV smasher, an 8 year old or high level cheaters.

I was racing with a guy who was going 4 wheels off at Hockenheim, so I called him out because he was in first. He said it was clean so he wasn’t cheating and it was part of the game. Almost thought of hitting him at the hair pin and saying the exact same thing. Just because you can do it and get away with it doesn’t mean that it is respectful to the lobby you are racing in. It all comes down the lack of morals and respect in lobbies.

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The problem become what’s clean. Your opinion is different from his where the track limits are. Atleast the guy was trying to stay clean. If you had wrecked him. You full deserve to get report and possibly suspended.

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I just finished a race on Hockenheim in the ST League and experienced the same thing. Cutting corners WORSE than the top times in the Rivals on Monza. I was in first and couldn’t understand how someone had caught up to me so fast. I looked behind me after every turn and sure enough there he was off-roading through the corners. He tried to pass me on one of the straights after he carried full speed through a turn by not actually having to turn. I’m really quite okay with losing a race, but not to someone who is blatantly cheating, so I spun him. Good riddance.

I raced a few laps on the Lamborghini Rivals event yesterday and then checked the leaderboard to see how I’d done. While I didn’t think I’d set any records, I was kind of shocked to see how much further behind I was to the top times. I then watched a few of the top replays and saw why: every corner that was able to be cut and still keep a lap clean was cut. First off, I don’t understand how these can even be considered clean laps. Second, even even more discouraging, I’ve got some people with the Turn 10 logo after their names on my friend list (of course I won’t say who as that’s not allowed) and the best ones of them are doing the same thing. Corner cutting is a huge problem in the game, many players have voiced their concerns over it on the forums, but how can we hope that either Turn 10 will address being able to cut corners or do something to discourage or penalize those that do so when they themselves are out there setting the wrong example?
Maybe I’m making a big deal over nothing, but Turn 10 cheating in their own game, in their own competition, to me is just wrong.

I doubt Turn 10 is that concerned over people cutting corners. Just look at the leaderboard for the Lamborghini rivals event. You’ll see Turn 10 racers are up there cutting corners with the rest of them. I wish it would be fixed, but when the guys running the show are cheating themselves, it doesn’t give me much hope that things are going to change.

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if you have read the main thread on Lamborghini Rivals topic ( plus the other numerous threads on corner cutting) you would know it has been brought up numerous times
http://forums.forza.net/turn10_postst59043_Lamborghini-Super-Trofeo-Race-Series.aspx
http://forums.forza.net/turn10_postst53314p4_Chicane-cutting.aspx

some of them have answered as well…think the main response was that it’s too late to change it now, maybe when the competition has finished it might get fixed
not right but everyone has the option to do the same lines

If you want to see corner cutting look at the reply of the person in 1st position in the lamborghini week 1 rivals. I thought everyone could do it for a faster time but lap after lap it’s called as a dirty lap. I’m not sure how your supposed to post a competitive time against people that are able to do that. Honestly look at the reply and see just how bad it is. There may as well be no corner at All. This is a photo taken of this person at the first and second corner.
dirty

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The issue here isn’t that players are finding exploitable corners, it’s that those corners are “clean” in the first place.

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I’ve posted a support thread regarding Monza’s track limits.

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This is just stupid. Thank you for showing how ridiculous they made this track.

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It will take any line that’s clean. Plain and simple.
One person will think being 200ft off the track is fair. The next guy will complain if somebody touches the white line. But really it’s just there opinion and mean nothing. T10 is the track Marshall and sets the rules.

That being said. I wish T10 would tighten up they track limits and pUT more barrier. There too many grey area that cause argument.

At the end of the day a corner is there to go around, not drive across. A change is needed to stop the cheaters from doing what they do. If they are as good as they say they are then the top drivers wouldn’t feel the need to have to cut the corners in the first place.

There not cheating is point. The track marshall (T10) are bad at there job. if everybody cuts the corner it make a completely even playing field.

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Yeah I guess your right. If it’s allowed by the marshall then it can not be called cheating but at the same time if I had one of the top times posted and had got it by cutting corners personally I’d feel as if I had cheated. It’s just a shame T10 allow it and even more of a shame some feel they need to exploit it just to be ranked in the top 10. They obviously arent good enough to get ranked in the top 10 without corner cutting. The people who don’t cut corners and get into the top 10 are the real racers.

It is a shame. But its up to the driver and there own beliefs what advantages to uses. Of course if the track limits were tighter, then the lap times more comparable.

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Just put the dang sticky zones back in the game.

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