Car Type Divisions

Forza Horizon Legacy Horizon FH3 Discussion
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I’m wondering how the Motorsports All-Star car pack will work out in the game. It seems to be unique so far in that aspect that it has about 10 GT racing cars in the pack. But there seem to be no other GT racing cars announced yet and I doubt any will be announced apart from what’s already in the pack.

So, considering how FH2 has every car in a proper car division I would assume in FH3 that is the case as well. I mean especially after all the complaints about FM6 having cars without a division I doubt PG would make the same mistake as T10 in this aspect.

So, how will that work out in the game? Will there be a GT race car division? Will there be events held for this division? What about people who don’t buy the car pack? Will they be unable to complete this division?

Or maybe the cars are just added without any events for them so that they are basically only used for free roam?

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My guess is that they won’t have a class division.

If they do, chances are they’ll be their own thing with their own events, but I doubt it.

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I’m quite curious to know what types of cars are in the game and how much variety there is.

I’might pretty sure that there will be Hot Hatches, Sports Cars, JDM Icons, Offroaders, Supercars, Classics, etc which come from the previous Horizon games.

But there are new vehicles as well; Dune Buggies, Trophy Trucks, Race Cars…

Any other new vehicle types in the game? Or would that be a huge spoiler…

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Some divisions from previous games and groupings based on similar performance/body type (of the cars already announced:)

Early Racing
1948 Ferrari 166MM Barchetta, 1953 Maserati A6GCS/53 PininFarina Berlinetta

Vintage Touring: 1954-1967
Aston Martin DB5, Ferrari Dino 246, Ferrari 250 GT & Cali, Jaguar E Type & XK120, Mercedes 280
1969 Jaguar MKII?

Historic Sportscar Racing: 1956-1968
33 Stradale, 365, 330 P4, 250 TR, GT40, D-Type, Miura, Tipo 61, 300 S, Cobra Daytona and 427

American classics: 1949-1958
Chevy Bel Air, Mercury Coupe, Plymouth Fury

Historic American Muscle: 1964-1973
Javelin, Rebel, Stingray and ZR-1, Chevelle, El Camino, Nova, Impala, Challenger, Charger, Falcon XB and XY, Boss 302, 442, Cuda, Firebird 455, GTO Judge

Classic Mini/Compact: 1965-1980
Abarth 595, Fiat 131, Giulia Sprint GTA, 2002 Turbo, 510, 2000 Roadster, 124 Sport Spider, X1/9, RS1800, RS3100, Cortina, Torana, Mini Cooper, Cosmo, Kadett, Celica

1970s Rally
RS1600, Lancia Stratos, Renault Alpine A110

Later American Muscle: 1977-1979
Camaro, Mustang II King Cobra, Firebird

Hot Hatch: 1980-2014
Abarth 500, Fiesta, Escort, Delta Evo, Civic, Mazdaspeed3, Clio Williams, 5 Turbo

Compact Sport Coupe: 1985-2013
Milano QV, MX5, 240SX, S15, BRZ, Legacy, GT86, Celica ST185/ST205, Sprinter Trueno

Group B Rally: 1980-1986
Audi Sport quattro, 037 Stradale, Delta S4, RS200

Modern Sport Legends: 1981-2005
Vantage '77 and '98, Audi RS2, M1/M3/M5, Regal GNX, Camaro, Corvette, Monte Carlo, Viper, Maranello, F355, Testarossa, SVT Cobra, Sierra Cosworth, NSX-R, XJ-S, 190E, R34, Supra RZ, Carlton, 850R

Birth of the Supercar: 1987-2004
EB110, Enzo, F40, F50, Diablo, F1, F1 GT, R390, S7

Japanese Street Kings: 1992-2009
Integra, S2000, Galant, 350Z, SVX

Rally Day Heroes: 1998-2008
Lancer Evo, Impreza 22B, WRX

Ultimate Sport Compact: 2005+
M235, Z4, 1 Series, Focus, Genesis, Elise, A45, Mini JCW, 370Z, Megane, Astra

Executive Heavyweights: 2011+
Bentley Continental, M5, CTS-V Coupe, Q50, Q60, XFR-S, Ghibli, E63, Wraith, Model S

Ultimate Sport Machines: 2006+
Alfa 8C, Audi RS 4 and 5, BMW M3 and M4, CTS-V, Camaro, 300, Charger, Challenger, California T, Shelby GT350R, IPL G, F-Type, RC F, IS, GS, Evora, C63, S60

Falcon GT F 351, XR8, FPV Pursuit Ute, HSV GTS, HSV Maloo?

Sport GT: 2005+
Z06, ZR1, Viper, Mercedes GT S, GT-R, Sagaris

Exotic GT: 2005+
Vantage, Vanquish, R8 V10, 430, 458, 488, Ford GT, Gallardo, Huracan, LFA, SLS AMG

Ultimate GT: 2008+
One-77, FF, F12tdf, Aventador, Centenario, Reventon, SL65

Track Toys
Alfa 4C, Mono, Caterham, Donkervoort, KTM, Exige, 2-Eleven

Modern Hypercar: 2009-2013
Veyron, LaFerrari, Venom, Veneno, P1, Huayra, Zonda Cinque

Recent Track/Hypercar
Atom 500, FXX K, One:1, Regera, Ultima Evolution 1010

Offroad: 1945-1997
Bronco, Grand Wagoneer, Willys MB, Defender, Manx, FJ40

Street Utility: 1951-2011
Ford Transit, F-100, Syclone, Vandura, FX Ute, Sandman panel van, H1 Alpha, LM 002

Sport Utility: 2011+
BMW X5 and X6, Escalade, F-150 Raptor, Grand Cherokee, Wrangler Rubicon, Range Rover, G65, Ram Runner

Sport Offroad: 2012+
Ariel Nomad, Bowler EXR, Urus, Rally Fighter, Polaris

Extreme/Racing Offroad: 2014+
Ford Ranger T6, Mini X-Raid, Baldwin Trophy Truck, Raptor Race Truck, Penhall Cholla

GT Racing: 2014+
All-Stars Pack: R8 LMS, Z4, C7.R, Viper, 458, GTLM, Falcon FG X, Commodore, Huracan, GT-R

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All (probably) Divisions Found on the Exlusive Gameplay by Xbox On

-Anything Goes (I suppose just evry car is elegible)
-Retro Super Cars
-Retro Saloons
-Modern Super Cars
-Hyper Cars
-Vans & Utility
-Asian Sports Cars
-European Sports Cars
-Super Saloons
-Classic Racers
-Cult Classics
-Rare Classics
-Hot Hatch
-Retro Hot Hatch
-Super Hot Hatch
-Extreme Track Toys

  • Classic Muscle
    -Rods and Customs
    -Retro Muscle
    -Modern Muscle
    -Retro Rally
    -Classic Rally
    -Rally Monsters
    -Modern Rally
    -GT Cars
    -Super GT
    -Extreme Offroad
    -Offroad
    -Sports Utility Heroes
    -Offroad Buggies
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I am convinced those are indeed all the car divisions in the game, when he goes to the right to select offroad you see that offroad is not in the center but stays on the right side, meaning its the end of the list. I assume the list opened at the first entry as well with “anything goes”. What is even more interesting is that you can see how many cars of all divisions are available in that build of the game. When he goes to Anything Goes, you see 348 cars are available from the dealership. I wrote in your quote the number of cars in those divisions revealed by the video between brackets. He doesn;t hover his mouse over each division though so not all are known. Either way, the speculation about Porsche and Volkswagen can really begin now. :slight_smile:

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In your screen shot on a previous post,you can also see that there are 10 elegible cars from the autoshow for the “Offroad” division

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They are now called car themes. And what is really nice, is that cars can FINALLY belong to multiple divisions!!! In the video for example the F-150 Raptor Race Truck belongs to 6 divisions :

offroad
American all-stars
heavy hitters
2010s collection
Ford
Ford vs Holden

edit - still seems they still have 1 main division though, which in this case for the raptor race truck is offroad. I think the other ones from the screenshot are extra filters on the car list, like for example the family names in FM6. Not what I was hoping for in my initial enthusiasm but nonetheless it’s interesting.

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Following up on my previous post, I honestly think they ditched Volkswagen!!! As you can see in the video when he hovers over retro hot hatch there are 6 cars in that division in the build of the game they showed (348 cars total).

FH2 had 11 cars in the retro hot hatch division, this is the FH2 list and the cars in bold are cars that are not announced yet for FH3 :

1981 Ford Fiesta XR2 (confirmed FH3)
1980 Renault 5 Turbo (confirmed FH3)
1993 Renault Clio Williams (confirmed FH3)
1984 Honda Civic CRX Mugen
1986 Honda Civic Si
1991 Honda CR-X SiR
1981 Volkswagen Scirocco S
1984 Volkswagen Rabbit GTI (Golf Mk1)
1988 Volkswagen Scirocco 16v
1992 Volkswagen Golf GTi 16v Mk2
1995 Volkswagen Corrado VR6

As you can see 3 Honda’s are missing and 5 VWs are missing. But only 3 more cars will be in the retro hot hatch. I’d say RIP VW for FH3. So this Diesel scandal probably had something to do with it anyway even though other brands of the VW group are in the game.

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And with the sports utility heroes I think we can assume that Porsche won’t be in the game initially either, what a big disappointment.

In FH2 this class had 8 cars, in FH3 that demo build has 8 cars in it as well. Here is the FH2 list :

2011 BMW X5 M (confirmed FH3)
2012 Cadillac Escalade ESV (confirmed FH3)
2014 Jeep Grand Cherokee SRT (confirmed FH3)
2014 Lamborghini Urus (confirmed FH3)
2014 Land Rover Range Rover Supercharged (confirmed FH3)
2013 Mercedes-Benz G 65 AMG (confirmed FH3)
2012 Porsche Cayenne Turbo
2015 Porsche Macan Turbo

So at first sight you’d think with the 2 Porsches missing that is just the 2 cars the series is missing right? Wrong, because this has been announced already, we are already at 7 :

2015 BMW X6 M (wasn’t in FH2)

Then there is also these two :
1979 Toyota FJ40 Land Cruiser (announced already but I expect it to be in offroad)
2015 Land Rover Range Rover Sport SVR (not announced yet but I expect this one in as well)

Some people could argue that maybe Porsche will be in but both the Cayenne and Macan didn’t make the cut. I seriously doubt that, in a game like FH3 where offroad tracks are so common I would bet IF Porsche would be in, at least one but more likely both of their SUVs would be in the game.

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aah yeah forgot to add those 10 offroad :slight_smile:

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What about 98 CLK GTR? It’s in Birth Of Supercar And Retro Supercars.

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Birth of Supercar isn’t a real division anymore, the list posted earlier is all the divisions in the game. It might be a separate group though similar to Ford vs Holden, American All-stars etc.

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Here’s how I’m guessing the cars will fit into the Type divisions, based on previous games and performance. I don’t see where the race cars in the All-Stars Pack would fit, so maybe they don’t have an assigned division.


Out of 6 Rods & Customs I only count 2 likely models so far. I wonder if they’re bringing over the Bone Shaker.
Potential Cult Classics: Alfa Romeo Spider 1986, Corvette 1953 and 1960, Lotus Elan Sprint, Nissan Fairlady Z 432


Potential additions to Rare Classics: Fiat 8V Supersonic, Lotus Eleven, Mercedes 300 SL, Toyota 2000GT.
Potential additions to Classic Racers: Alfa Romeo Giulia TZ2, Aston Martin DBR1


Potential additions to Classic Rally: Lancia Fulvia
Potential additions to Rally Monsters: MG Metro 6R4
Potential additions to Modern Rally: recent Subaru WRX


Potential additions to Classic Muscle: '69 and '70 Camaro, Dodge Dart, Mustang '65 and '71 Mach 1, Holden HQ GTS 350
Potential additions to Retro Muscle: Corvette ZR-1 '95
Potential additions to Modern Muscle: '15 Mustang, '13 Shelby GT500


Potential additions to Retro Hatch: CR-X '81, Civic '86
Potential additions to Hot Hatch: Punto, Giulietta, Civic '04, Veloster, Juke, Clio RS 200, Corsa
Potential additions to Super Hot Hatch: S1, RS3, Sport Clio V6


Potential additions to European Sports Cars: TT RS '10, 850 CSi
Potential additions to Asian Sports Cars: Nissan S14 (confirmed but which year), new MX-5, RX-8 R3, RX-7 FD, Fairlady Z '94, R32, S13, MR2 '95


Potential Murcielago SV, Mercedes SLR, Lotus Esprit V8, Mercedes SLK 55

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DLC: Aventador SV
Potential additions: Lamborghini Countach and Jalpa, Ferrari 458 Speciale, McLaren 650S, 570S, 12C, Noble M600


I can only guess at less than half the number of Extreme Track Toys indicated.
DLC: Ferrari F12tdf, Ultima, Regera
Potential Extreme Track Toys: Caparo, Maserati GT4, McLaren P1 GTR, Radical

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DLC: Ford Falcon GT F 351?
Potential saloon additions: RS6 Avant, RS 4 Avant '01, M3 E30

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You have no idea how much i hope you are guessing right as it’s almost filling my “hope” list.
I would then only miss the 90’s ghibli, couple of others and some of the VW’s (especially the Type 2…)
(sorry for cutting partly your message,BTW)

Raaah 23rd september seem so far…

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What do you think about the new cars announced, where would they fit in?

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Manteomax, There will probably be some shifts from existing FH2 divisions to new FH3 divisions as well. For Rods and Customs I think about the Mercury Eight and the Ford DeLuxe as well.
It’s the same with the extreme track toys where you miss so many cars. It seems the normal track toys division disappeared so some probably move over from that one. Let’s just hope a Toyota MR2 is now not seen as an extreme track toy. :slight_smile:

“Potential additions to Rally Monsters: MG Metro 6R4” I would seriously put more money on the Opel Manta 400. :wink: But I assume they are both in.

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Cover Cars
-Modern Super Cars (21 cars) LFA
-Hyper Cars (14 cars) Centenario
-Vans & Utility (7 cars) Sierra
-European Sports Cars (8 cars) Alfa 4C
Classic Racers (15 cars) GT40
-Rare Classics (14 cars) E-type
-Retro Hot Hatch (5 cars) Clio Williams
-Extreme Track Toys (21 cars) Atom
-Rods and Customs (6 cars) Bel Air
-Modern Muscle (18 cars) Vette C6
-Classic Rally (6 cars) Austin Mini
-Modern Rally (8 cars) Evo IX
-Super GT (12 cars) f12berlinetta
-Offroad (10) Raptor
-Sports Utility Heroes (8 cars) Range Rover
-Offroad Buggies (4 cars) Pennhala

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IIRC that was an Ute, no?

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About the lists ManteoMax wrote, first, you should add the Classic Mini and second how is a Volvo S60 Sedan a Hot Hatch?