BIGTIME MUSCLE [88bg] -- Interactive Challenge NSX -- CLOSED


What’s up MotorSports Fans!?!?!

Do you guys want another challenge for FM4!?!?!

(crickets) SILENCE (crickets)

Hmmm…seems to be getting a little scarce around here these days.

Oh well, I’m going on with this thing anyway!!!


Blah, Blah, Blah (windbag)

So I was continuing my insane grind that is the Bucket List the other day and I came across the NSX races, and noticed that on the loading screen it referred to the NSX as being “Developed using the Suzuka Circuit.”

Well, a thought came to me after racing this car a bit, this car is Freakin" Fun to Drive!! So, I promptly (a few days later…hey, that’s right on top of it for me) came up with this challenge to try and keep this thing interesting.

Finally, Something worth reading

So this is what we are going to do, well…I hope you do anyway, we are going to go really fast around the Suzuka West Circuit. (brilliant huh!!)

There is a Participation Paint thrown together, pic above, in my Store for free, and the tune we will be using for this crazy challenge is there as well. :slight_smile:

“But I thought the title says Interactive Challenge?? Where’s the interaction??”

Just keep your pants on there Slick, I’m getting to it.

Build and Tune

Now for this challenge we will be using the tune mentioned above that is free in my store front, but I am also going to post the build and tune below.

Car:

1997 Acua NSX
312 HP
254 TQ
2503 lbs
46%
3.4L

Build:

Engine & Power
Race Exhaust
Sport Displacement

Platform & Handling
Race on everything

Drivetrain
Race Clutch
Sport Transmission
Race Driveline
Race Differential

Tires & Wheels
Tenzo R DC-6 V1
Fronts to 17"
Race Tires
Max Widths
235/35/17
275/35/17

Aero & Apperance
Front Bumper – Burn-Up
Rear Wing – Burn-Up
Rear Bumper – Do-Luck
Side Skirts – Do-Luck
Hood – Burn-Up
(what’s with all the freakin’ hyphens!!!)

Conversion
Nah, don’t need any of this!

Tune:

Tires
Front 29.5
Rear 30.0

Gearing
Final Drive 4.06

Alignment
Camber Front -.9
Camber Rear -.9
Toe Front .2
Toe Rear -.1
Front Caster 4.6

Anti-Roll Bars
Front 18.90
Rear 22.10

Springs
Springs Front 938.0
Springs Rear 658.5
Ride Height Front 4.4
Ride Height Rear 4.5

Damping
Rebound Front 4.7
Rebound Rear 5.6
Bump Front 2.4
Bump Rear 4.2

Aero
N/A
N/A

Braking
Balance 54%
Breaking Force 104%

Differential
Acceleration 12%
Deceleration 48%

Interactive Part

Alright, now that we have all of that out of the way, here comes the hopefully fun for you guys part, instead of just using my tune to go around this thing let’s try tweaking the tune to your own liking and letting the rest of us know what works for you.

Please keep the build the same, but change to your hearts content all of the settings you want to. If the Diff doesn’t agree…change it, if the Springs are too stiff…soften them.

I’m just trying something different here, there is nothing wrong with using a locked tune by any means, and I am not complaining in any way, shape or form, just trying to keep things interesting and alive.

Rules

Just drive around fast, I will keep track of a leader board, but mainly only for bragging rights.

Honor system in play here – Let’s be honest, I’m not going to go check everyone’s replays (I’m too lazy for that), but if you want to upload to show your finesse around the asphalt, then by all means do so.

Also, there’s not really anything at stake here, so hopefully we can all play nice. :slight_smile:

Prizes

Well, not much in way of prizes to go with here (this is mainly just for fun). A few credits is all I have offer, so if anybody that participates wants some, I will give them 25mil for doing a few laps.

UPDATE

Photos

Let’s add some pics to this thing as well.

Same rules as always, no swearing, rude or crude lilveries, etc, etc

Another 25 mil to all that add pics.

Length of Contest

Let’s go until the end of Valentine’s Day, Feb 14th.


3 Likes

Leader Board

Yakov Alfa — 01:22.230
xChapter IV — 01:22.545
CostlessCape92 — 01:23.379
DRAGGINSLAYER01 — 01:23.560
Wan Ge 1 — 01:23.710
CFunk2001 — 01:23.957
DesigningLeek47 — 01:24.93x
KoolIROCZ1967 — 01:25.664
clairvoyant nl — 01:28.367
TarryVariable1 — 01:37.547


Results

Time Attack:

Every participant, not just the top 4, gets 25 million credits. Put up a car in AH and let me know.

1st — Yakov Alfa — 4 prize cars
2nd — xChapter IV — 3 prize cars
3rd — CostlessCape92 — 2 prize cars
4th — DRAGGINSLAYER01 – 1 prize car

It is possible to “gift” your prizes to others if you wish.

PhotoComp:

1st — Yakov Alfa — 4 prize cars
2nd — CostlessCape92 — 3 prize cars
3rd — KoolIROCZ1967 — 2 prize cars
4th — TarryVariable1 — 1 prize car

Also every one that posted a pic gets 25 mil credits if they want them.

It is possible to “gift” your prizes to others if you wish.



You know in the OP how I made a BIG deal about there not being any prizes for this Challenge_ish_, well scratch that and Check these. Our talented member Jdog felt sorry for my bare prize shelf, so he sent me a few designs for the current car we are running here. The details are on the Notes Post #5.

Prize Cars






Photos


CostlessCape92

CC92 01


Yakov Alfa







KoolIROCZ1967






TarryVariable1


Here are my three fav pics : )

Yakov Alfa #1


KoolIROCZ1967 #2


TarryVariable1 #3

Really enjoyed running and comparing everyones quality tunes… in the end I ran my fastest lap with the tune I started with… CFunk’s : )

FUN STUFF!! THANKS!!

I wanted to go back and get a 21, but as usual I never got around to doing a 2nd run. : /

Will you or JDog be handling prize car distribution? I wouldn’t mind having the full set. ; )

Was a great comp CFunk, thanks! : )

By the way, here are my votes for the photocomp…

CostlessCape92
CC92 01

KoolIROCZ1967

TarryVariable1


Misc & Updates

Quick Recap:

1997 Acura NSX
Suzuka West Circuit
Run until the end Feb. 14th
Any livery, except naughty no no’s
Tune in CFunk2001 Store, and in OP open sourced (by all means change the tune to your individual liking, and please post it here to share it with the community, all you wish to, but keep the build the same please)

Challengers Changes:

___DRAGGINSLAYER01___posted his setup on Post #7
___xChapter IV___has his tune in his Store
___Yakov Alfa___has tune in is Store, and on Post #16
___EZT TomCat7___has a tune setup on Post #18

My Updates:

Final Drive 4.56
Diff Decel 24%

PRIZE UPDATE — PRIZE UPDATE — PRIZE UPDATE

Our member Jdog (who shall now and forever be know as J “the Bringer of Prizes” dog, took one look at this challenge, saw no prizes and said, “…,” well I can’t exactly share what he said, it was of the four letter variety. :slight_smile: But the jist of the matter is we now have Prize Cars. So there really is a Challenge now. :slight_smile:

Time Attack Prizes:

1st all four cars
2nd three cars
3rd two cars
All that enter a time here in the thread get one prize car as well.

Photo Comp Prizes:

1st all four cars
2nd three cars
3rd two cars
All that post a pic here in the thread for entry in the comp get one prize car as well.

Prize cars are your choice. If you win in both contests and want to gift your cars to someone else (very cool of you), that’s fine with me.

Also remember, there is a 25mil CR prize just for entering in each of these as well. So you can grab at least 50mil CRs and two prize cars just for at least showing up. :slight_smile:

Prize Cars are on Post #3.

PRIZE UPDATE — PRIZE UPDATE — PRIZE UPDATE


Sounds awesome! That OP made me laugh a few times, and the paint is great too. I’ll get around to this soon. ; )

Got a 1.24.991 as it sets … is my PB for the track … surprisingly my 64 Impala SS was not far off the pace

changed some settings and gear to 390 … ran 1.23.943 clean is my PB … will go faster I lost time

here are the settings I used which is quite different

29.5 F & R tires

390 Final Drive

Camber
-0.9
-0.7

Toe
0.2
-0.1

Caster
5.5

ARB
18.50
20.00

Springs
515.0
665.0

Height
4.1
4.3

Damping
6.0
7.5

Bump
2.5
3.0

Braking
55
110

Dif
30
27

I loaded the tune if you want to just run it from the menu screen but for me so far this worked well especially going into braking … I am sure it’s potential is above my ability … on both tunes for that matter ;o)

Cool thanks Yakov. :slight_smile:


Awesome, thanks for joining Draggin, and for the first posted change! :slight_smile:


I figured the Final Drive would be one the first things changed, its a bit too high on the default setting of 4.06, but the car felt better, more stable with the higher setting. Of course, that could have been because I took off the front Aero as well that calmed the “twitchy” down.

I use a calculator for the tunes, a version of the FTC, but an APP on my Windows Phone, that has three different style settings, GRIP - NORMAL - DRIFT. I use a combination of all three to come up with my tunes. I’m just too lazy to tweak and prod the settings until I get where I like it (well I do change PSI and Diff Accel, and there isn’t an Aero setting in that version of the Calculator), and the the calculator has really come to me here lately. For me and my style and feel anyway.

For this build it spit out a final drive of 4.99, but since it is only the Sport Trans (thought it would be easier for the Interactive part of this shindig), I couldn’t change the other gears to compensate for the top end loss that setting causes. Now keep in mind, you aren’t going to need the end of 6th for this track, so I might try using the 4.99 tonight, and since there isn’t any Aero on this time, maybe it will be better. :slight_smile:

I’m also planning on trying a few other settings as well, adjusting out 6th gear and only using 5, and lowering the Final to where 6th is “more usable.” Even though it is really high, I suppose it’s an Over Drive gear for fuel economy, and not meant for circuit racing. :slight_smile:


looking forward to trying this, ill definitely give this one a shot when i get home

1:22.545 last lap. I will also post my tune for people to use and see if anyone prefers the setup style i run


Thanks for posting C4 and Draggin!

And both of them come in under my time, that’s why I posted mine first so I could at least see it on top for a little while. :slight_smile:

Also, Draggin has his entire tune on Post #7. Awesome man!!


It’s a lot of fun CF … I enjoy getting in on all these challenges …on that note - not from me but I see a high 1.20 coming from one you speedsters out there

Cool, glad you like it CC, and thanks for being the first to post a pic as well. :slight_smile:

Yeah, the track has some tough turns in it that can really cost you some time; the hard brake into T2 and the last turn going off camber if you don’t stay on the very small flat section on the inside, just to name the biggest for me.


Awesome DRAGGIN, thanks for joining.

I hope to see some 1:20s, that would be very cool. It won’t be from me either, I am about tapped on my time.


DRAGGIN and C4 – Thanks for sharing your tunes guys, very cool. Do you guys use wheels or Sim Steering?


I ran some laps, in testing-nothing official, with the different Final Drive setting, and I like the Final Drive at 4.56. With this setting, your pretty much at end of 5th down the Start/Finish straight and it sets up nicely for T1.

Also, I turned the Diff Decel down to 24% with the FD at 4.56, it seems to turn in better for me.


I am using normal steering on a regular X360 controller with the adjustable D pad … and your build is great … I did bump my final drive to your 456 instead of my 390 which helped me in the last round sweeper so now I run out on straght at end of 5th instead of 4th and I uploaded a replay with your design on this run … I improved to 1.23.922 which is only a tick better than my last PB but this time I left a lot of time all over the track with mistakes everywhere so the gear helped out a bunch I just didn’t run well today … and I moved the front camber to 1.2 from 0.9 … now I just need to make another attempt since that run was a half disaster lol.

Diggin’ your challenge CFunk2001!!

So far using your tune with no adj. I have run a lap time of 1:23.598 : ) Still learning the nuances of the track, tune and car so i’m sure I can improve on that with a bit more time behind the wheel : ) Will try to post an updated time before days end =)

Fun stuff!!

Time update: 1:23.379 - PB on LB =)

So far the only thing that I can see that could stand a little tweaking is… well… me :slight_smile:

Count me in too : )

Ran a 1:22.230 on lap 6. I put the replay in my storefront because I’m kinda proud of my parking job at the end of lap 8. ; )

I uploaded my variant of the tune to my storefront, and here’s the open source if anyone wants it (I’m stealing your formatting CFunk)…

Tires
Front 30.0
Rear 30.5

Gearing
Final Drive 4.06

Alignment
Camber Front -1.2
Camber Rear -1.0
Toe Front 0.2
Toe Rear 0.0
Front Caster 5.0

Anti-Roll Bars
Front 18.00
Rear 35.00

Springs
Springs Front 800.0
Springs Rear 900.0
Ride Height Front 4.1
Ride Height Rear 4.2

Damping
Rebound Front 8.0
Rebound Rear 8.8
Bump Front 5.0
Bump Rear 5.8

Aero
N/A
N/A

Braking
Balance 50%
Braking Force 140%

Differential
Acceleration 17%
Deceleration 17%

Ok, I’ll kick this off: