lmao @ all the “aren’t i good” comments comments.this is not a “I’m the best tuner” spouting forum.
in answer to the original question,try FORZATUNE for android and Iphone mate
only you can say if its any good 4 you.helped me when i started out tuning.gives a good base tune that you can then fine tune to your driving style.does race and drift tunes.
check it out.
I bought the iPhone ForzaTune and it is NOT one that I would suggest. It does far less to account for a particular vehicle than others that are available. I suppose if your perspective is that these just give you a consistently calculated starting point for a tune, it would serve that purpose as well as any other.
As far as your “aren’t I good” comment… I don’t believe anyone has boasted about being any kind of spectacular tuner. My comments were to provide a reference of my driving skill. In the same vein as Juggernaught expressed; compared to the millions of drivers who have had times posted on the leaderboards being able to post top 1% times is an achievement. However, I also conceded to the fact that I realize that I’m nothing special. Of those millions of time posted, I’m sure a huge majority of them are kids who know nothing about driving and folks who load it up just to have some fun running a lap or two. Probably only 20% of the people on the lists could actually be considered as enthusiasts who are trying to be competitive about it. With that said, when I land a top 1% time that’s in 9231st place, I’m not patting myself on the back or anything. At the same time though, I have set a time on a couple tracks that were in the top 1500. That’s something that I’m proud of, and I don’t think there’s any reason to be ashamed of that. Are their people who are better drivers than me? Of course, there is always someone who will be better, faster, stronger.
here’s a calculator for you.
If you are referring to me, you are wrong, I am not trying to claim that I would be “the best”. In fact, I can name at least 15 better, and 10 just as good, if not better tuners than myself. Although most of them have moved to FM5.
And I bet there is still more of them, I just don’t know them, which drops me far out of the top 50, possibly even out of top 550. But still I know my stuff better than the majority of the over 4,000,000 players.
Well regardless of this that and the other thing, I like reading this as I think I’m picking up some good stuff. I’m more apt to leave my car stock than use a tuning calculator. And then try to understand why I might need to tune something a little differently. But maybe one day I’ll try a calculator for giggles. I would think that when you drive a car stock, it’s foibles show up and then you start to learn to how to address them. Or I should say you learn how this car reacts to your style of driving.
But I would have to agree that a general calculator does seem kind of silly if it doesn’t take into account the track. They can be so different. Although some are less different than others. But as a newcomer I find the Bernese Alps and Maple Valley particularly hard to drive with a loose car. It feels like you’re on one long curve with differing radii and you really need to know what gear and how fast be going for that car. Not necessarily any different than any other track but just more challenging for me. The only time I’ve flipped a car in the game was on the Bernese Alps and with a known good handing car. One of the newer lotus’. I forget what it called. Elise maybe. It’s one you get to choose in the game for getting to another level. But I flipped her good and she was smoking and I almost couldn’t finish the race because it was like brrrrrrrr brrrrrrrr brrrrrrrrrrrr. I messed up the engine. LOL.
Am I the only one ever to flip a car? I thought it was pretty bad. I’m getting better on those tracks, but man, there tough. And that Montserrat. Oh my goodness that things is nuts. My problem is I practice on Road America and Road Atlanta because in real life I’m from WI and my wife is from Alabama and I’ve been to both tracks. So they feel like home to me. But they are so different from some of the other tracks. I guess they’re all kind of different though.
speaking of flipping your car - want some silly fun? try one of these!
(if you don’t have the jeep, DriftngPlatypus has something similar for the Hummer on his storefront also!)
I have rolled a car so many times that I have literally lost count of it. I have friend who has youtube series “Will it roll” Will it Roll? - YouTube
Some of my friends call Maple Valley “Roll-over valley”
Nah Rolling the car is afterall quite usual.
Although one reason for rolling over might be bad tune. For example, attacking kerbs with too low car.
You’re not the only one… I’ve flipped a number of cars… Just tonight I rolled a spark 5-6 times while trying to tune it for Suzuka East… Got me a #849 personal best during the process.
A lot of times a car is easily to flip is the bound/rebound and/or springs are to stiff, especially if you’re on a track where it’s REAL easy to hit the curve bumpers.
However, one of my favorite pictures is of my lotus elan while going around Maple Valley… Got her up on two wheels. The pic shows the car at nearly a 90 degree angle… And I saved it, landed and finished the lap… Wish I had the replay! I have to see if I can find it so I can post it up here!
Oh good. Maybe I’m not driving hard enough because I’ve only flipped once. heheheheh
Well, I guess that’s one of the big differences between the game and real life I guess. We can feel free to drive on the ragged edge and go past it because there’s no real damage. No real money to shell out and no real broken bones to heal. I wonder what would happen if you couldn’t play the game for a couple of days because you flipped a car. LOL. Or got in a bad accident. I know I’ve taken a few straights waaaaay too fast. I was doing a practice race on Sedona and lost my front bumper from running into that wall after that one straight.
I don’t think tuning calculators are “useless”. If you need a starting point, or a direction you should go when you don’t know, a tuning calculator can help you to get off in the right direction. While they may not give you exact settings for any given car or track, they may be able to get you “in the ballpark”.
A computer is not capable of independent thinking; it can not determine what you want or need. Of course, it’s not going to build a car for you. A tuning calculator tunes what you have, not what you want. There’s no computer program to drive the car for you either.
Ten guys better than you and better than four million others? Impressive numbers. Even if you are exaggerating, I don’t think you would use someone else’s tuning aid even if it worked for the other four million to some small degree.
Well I have tested 7 cars (if not more) that have definitely been going the right way, but overshot so much that the original setup is just as good, except maybe on 1 track
That is great if you are tuning for that exact track but for all the others, it’s just as good as the stock setup
Well that’s just what I can do without double checking names from results of various tuning comp results, my friends list and so on. The tunes they would provide would be just as fast or faster than I could provide. Sure there is better tuners than me, and sure there it better than any of those I could mention, the problem is. I do not know them therefore I cannot name them.
And lets not forget this
where I quite clearly state that there might be quite many tuners that are better than me.
And yes, 4.17m copies sold of FM4 (according to this site Forza Motorsport 4 for Xbox 360 - Sales, Wiki, Release Dates, Review, Cheats, Walkthrough
Majority of them are just casual players who don’t know, or don’t care about tuning. who just hop in race few races before going to do something else.
Now there must also be better tuners than myself, but looking from where I am, there can’t be too many of them. as right now from what ever angle I’m looking at it I’m fairly high up there. Sure I’m not on top, that is for sure. but there isn’t too many even fairly well known people above me. And what do I mean with “well known”? I mean people who you often see on these forums.
There is a program that can be used to drive your car for you… You can hire a driver. LOL problem is you can affect how well they drive.
If everyone compared times using hired drivers on the same track, I wonder how close the times would be? The “Hired Driver” is programmed into the game, perhaps a half dozen or so drives per car or class over a specific course.
Perhaps a better analogy would have been to say that the game cannot paint a car for you; that requires operator input.
If you had a bunch of the tuning data from tuners who have successfully built, tuned and tested the cars, it would be possible to develop a program that would tell you how to build and tune cars for specific tracks, but those successful builders are selling complete cars in the Auction House, so compiling that sort of data would be unlikely.
I raise you http://forums.forza.net/turn10_postst5170_-HMR--Fire-Sale--Open-Source-Galore--Loads-of-comps.aspx
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Wow… just wow!
I would say that the build is more important than the tune I tuned a Mazda Gen2 for Maple valley and ran 1:42s left tune the same and changed up build now I run 1:40s in Lobby’s I know a few people who only make small changes to the stock tune and do very well with all that being said Lateral G Force maybe able to help you out. Also I do not use a calculator I tune a car to make it respond to my driving style people I have shared tunes with say my cars feel very much alike.
the build is more important.
you can ruin a great build with bad tune, but you cant save a bad build even with the best tune. (and there is no “best” tune as the tune is more preference thing