you didn’t get my point…i said if there is ‘x’ number of road cars we also need ‘x’ number of race cars too…this means we want equal number of road cars n race cars…
they will pick that race car to drive n to have fun…cause not everyone races to win all the time!!
No, I understand what you’re saying well enough. What you’re missing is why it’s not already that way. The FM series is built on upgrading and tuning of cars and race cars inherently limit the amount of that that CAN happen. Upgrades already become limited in the super car and hyper car classes and there are even fewer places to go with race cars. Plus a huge percentage of people already download all their tunes instead of tuning for themselves.
Plus you have to consider how forthcoming the actual race teams that all these cars belong to would actually want to be with the information surrounding them. Plus they’re probably busy, ya know, being a race team. So even if they’re willing to share, there are the extra hoops that I imagine come with getting the info you need as a design team. Plus there’s all the extra licensing that comes with representing the liveries authentically.
If I’m in T10’S shoes, I’m making a particular calculation at that point. What percentage of players drive race cars in the first place, and how much time do they spend in them? Even if YOU are the person who will spend hours with the car that came in 12th in the ‘fill-in-the-blank’ series for the 20XX season, how many people are on that list with you?
That makes no sense…this game is for all…u have your road cars n we have our race cars…simple…there should be equality…they shouldn’t be entertaining road car guys majorly…that’s my whole point since the beginning!!
who’s asking for livery?we just need the base car…we’ll make our own liveries…i make race liveries even in fh5…
u’ll find a lot of players who only tune n drive race cars, spend all their time on race cars n has only race cars in their garage like me…even though we have very small amount of race cars in the game, still we always stick to it…we never go for road cars…
it might come in 12th place, it might not end few races but still it’s a race car…n it’s 100 times better than a max tuned n upgraded road car…so it’ll be my pleasure to WASTE my time on that than spending time on a road car…
The number is low because we also have very low number of race cars in the game right now…with the increase of race cars our number will also increase…
Blockquote The number is low because we also have very low number of race cars in the game right now…with the increase of race cars our number will also increase…
I’m not convinced that there’s a large enough number of what you actually mean by “race car” to achieve the 50\50 split you think you should have in the first place. Plus, depending on the car, how much does that car change throughout a season and which version goes in the game? If they can’t accurately reflect those changes, how compelling is that car going to be?
Further, I’m not convinced everyone asking for “race cars” means the same thing. Perhaps if you really want to see any version of that come to fruition you all should hold a vote to figure out what race cars should come to the game first.
Are u kidding me??u’re telling me this now that u don’t know what i mean by saying “race car”…lol man…
Sorry…i’m not here to convince u…my bad. n we’re doing votings…n we will make race cars appear in both fm n fh…then u’ll get to see what i actually meant by “race cars”…
cheers.
Based on your flurry of recent voting activity, it seems like you don’t mean top fuel, funny car, indy, or formula 1. All I’m driving at here is that ‘race car’ is an umbrella term that refers to a lot of different things.
Since, based on your recent voting activity, I do have some idea what you mean now. Correct me if I’m wrong but, in at least a few of the examples in the FH voting forum aren’t the cars pretty heavily based on their road car equivalent?
We want everything…gtp,gtc,formula 1,tcr,group 6 n so on in fm n fh…n u’ve seen those cars in forum because we don’t have separate topics for gtps n lmps yet!
That seems like a healthy perspective.
gtp,gtc,formula 1,tcr,group 6 n so on in fm n fh…n u’ve seen those cars in forum because we don’t have separate topics for gtps n lmps yet!
I don’t know why I’m bothering but my point is that I always thought it ought to be the case that any race car that is mechanically based on its road-going sibling, the road car’s upgrade path should functionally result in the race car in the game. Like anything that was ever a homologation car should upgrade to its racing equivalent. That would at least get you a few more race cars and might actually be achievable. It serves both the race car and road car advocates.
you’re right n not only for those siblings but for more cars like a tcr kit for all hot hatches, gt3 kit for all saloons n so on, converting road trucks into trophy trucks…same looking bodykits with simple tweaks here n there…though we get rocket bunny,lb bodykits for some cars but what about interior customization?? like swaping the dash with only 2-3 gauges,removing all seats n place only one racing seat n so on…but no in terms of visual modifications they give an ugly spoiler n splitter for most of them n no interior customization…that’s why it’s the best to ask directly for race cars…
yeah there is a separate car class we’re voting for fh5 which will contain gtp,lmp,group c n others…it’ll be called ‘modern prototype racers’ if i’m not wrong…
vote here. i’ve been running this for few months…
After 5 updates, I can safely say this car pass is the worst in the franchise’s history. Last I counted, out of Update 2.0-5.0’s car pass cars FOURTEEN were race cars, 2 were non-street legal hypercars, & the ONLY street car that was added was just ported from Horizon. This is completely unprecedented in a MotorSport game. Had I have know this I would not have purchased the premium edition. I don’t hate race cars, bu they’re not the only thing I use or want. I don’t know how they don’t realize this given they have access to analytics about what cars are the most popular, but most of the player base does not drive race cars a majority of the time. All of the prior game’s car passes have had everything from 90s JDM, to classic American cars, to quirky oddballs, to beloved super cars & everything in between… Something for everyone. This game? 93% race cars. 93%. Now I understand that an 80s IMSA car & a modern day Trans-Am car are nothing alike one another, but I can guarantee you the types of people who drive one are almost the same types of people to drive the other. Race car guys are often their own niche that solely use race cars. But that isn’t the game’s entire audience, & they should know that. This game needs to stop taking itself so seriously as a professional sim-racing game like iRacing, until it has proven that it deserves to be taken seriously.
Finally what are you dissappointed for ?
For someone like me who don’t use race cars/hypercars it look good to don’t have a lot of roads cars on the car pass. I see it like those roads cars are going to be added monthly on event, instead of having too much race cars on it.
As much as I hate this excuse when its thrown around, this is absolutely a “you cant please everyone” scenario as I see it. 7 years ago I would have been in the camp of dismissing the race cars and wanting more road cars. Now I’m much the opposite. And quite upset at the lack of attention race cars have in the “Career”.
To everyone who only want road cars
There have been mostly road cars added with the FOMO weekly chores content.
Which isnt to excuse the FOMO Chores format. But there are new road cars being added.
Yes, its a problem if you were expecting an even mix with the car pass you bought into. (though everyone bought the ultimate edition for the early access, lets be honest) But dont act like you’re being completely underserved.
I would much rather have more access to body kits or race car conversion for road cars than have tons of pre-made race cars.
Major disappointment here too. Is Forza trying to compete with GT again?
NObody cares for the race cars much. Heck, not that many people even asked for them.
I want to see the latest road cars along with classics. I want to see widebody kits.
Road cars please! Regret buying the premium edition.
Check out the top voted car requests and you’ll see what we’re seeing:
The thing is, they are peoples who want race cars that’s right.
But if add racing cars mean have less roads cars, i’m sure it’s going to make even more peoples disapointed.
And now if we look at the tracks where we are driving our cars, they’re only circuit tracks, so no diversity, it’s also a reason of why tracks like Fujimi Kaido, Rally di positano etc , are missed, and high voted
Also, i see on that forum and over places some peoples except about FM to be something that it wasn’t at the first, and it’s feel like Turn 10 try to content them, but finally they “erase” some parts of what FM was, so they loose some “old players”, for try to content new ones, but they still ain’t satisfied, simply because FM isn’t the game they want, but they expect to make it to
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Instead of a car vote thread that would be more accurate if a poll was made, with “accurate ask” like “are you more for race cars or roads cars ?” Then “do you want more roads cars or race cars ?” Then “if more races cars mean less roads cars, would you accept it ?” Etc etc …
A direction or a cleat view is needed, but it really look like if Turn10 doesn’t have one, and that is also something who make customers loose their engagement