TCS is a personal preference . . .
dam u got a strong sense of guilt, your parents raised you right! lol
and remember that time you took way too many napkins from that fast food joint…
If that can help you, I’m pretty sure its only because its Le Mans.
On a shorter track, you would probably have runned it until you had the right throttle 
Actually, I probably would have done exactly that. LeMans frustrates me because of the length of it. I can’t even imagine how frustrated I will get when the Ring shows up on FM5.
Like I’ve been saying for a while, using the assists doesnt make you faster, it make you more consistent.
As long as the lap is clean,who cares what you used. As long as its in the game its not cheating,after all #125 is still #125 no matter what you used.
Don’t worry about it.
The guys at the top using TCS are in nearly 1,000 HP cars with no tire upgrades. These cars are a pain to drive quickly with no TCS. Put TCS on and hopefully you cut the amount of time needed to run a clean lap which is still no cake walk. I did several donuts unintentionally the first time I tried launching one of these cars off the line with no TCS. It was pretty funny. I’m dreading the day when I go back to the leaderboards to rerun the tracks. It will be a tough but rewarding exercise if successful.
So what do you care most about? Your position or your assists?
Listen to Worm. I think he hit it spot on there.
Personally, I feel I’m at a disadvantage using TCS, as a result I’ve only used it once… and that was when they made me use it in the tutorial race. I don’t understand how you guys can even use it without throwing your controller across the room, or kicking your steering wheel across the room, because it steals your precious HP to stop the wheels from spinning. So no, it’s defiantly not “cheating” but it does make things easier, which if you’re like me, turns you against using it, because we like walking to and from point A to point B both ways uphill in tropical thunder storms with 100’s of raging bulls chasing you while wearing a red shirt.
In my limited experience with it, if you’re a bad driver, it makes you worse. When I first started playing, I couldn’t have been any worse. I had TCS and STM on and the car would do the craziest of things at the most unexpected times. How much of that was me being lousy and how much was actually the assists, I couldn’t say. In this particular case though, I turned it on for very specific parts of the track that were giving me fits and it clearly made a difference, with no ill effects otherwise. Overall, I’d much rather race without it though.
I disagree on these track. The 1000hp C class cougar is easy and faster with it on. You cant use most of that Hp until you hit like 100mph.
On RA east I came close to beating my PB without TCS. But I was so hit or miss I put it back on.
On the rest of the track its pretty lame even on power tunes(650hp and below C class).
Keep at it Lou, you’ll get there.
I think my similar experience a couple of days ago is even sillier. I was hotlapping Indy and I had done about 20 laps or so and still couldn’t beat my time. Then, I finally got it, but, I noticed on one of the last turns I cut it pretty hard on the grass. The lap was clean but I still had this nagging sense that I “cheated”.
So, then, I watch a couple of videos of the top guys and I go “man, these guys all over the grass”. As long as the lap registers clean, all is fair in love and racing, I suppose.
Of course, I was running with TCS off, unlike you, you big cheater. 
(I kid, Lou, I kid)
I’m running TCS off simply because I need to learn to drive without it. Of course, if you think about it, you can probably just cut off the last two words of that sentence. Keep charging up the boards, Lou.
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How can you be a cheater using a feature that exists in real race cars?
It’s there, so using or not is a personal choice. Keep having fun.
lol at you Lou. Using TCS when called for is hardly corner cutting at Yas. Anyway, the controller itself is loaded with artificial assists. For a purist, there’s no escaping that. If you use TCS wrongly it will slow you down, but if it makes you faster, it’s good, right?
I thought TCS would of made you slower…Im going to need to try it out more!
If you slid the car around corners it does. If you can use it without lighting up the TCS light in the corners, excellent times are possible. When you do it right the car hooks up really nicely. It seems rather pointless to use though when the car is more grip based.
I’m fairly certain that a lot of race cars today have some form of traction control.
I guess I don’t see why it’s cheating to use TCS, STM, Manual without clutch, Automatic, etc. etc. You still have to drive the cars and hit the apex’s. Having TCS on just helps keep your car stable when you are accelerating.
Main ingredient in posting good times, in my opinion, is relaxing. I remember back when the first Microsoft Wireless Wheel came out and, because of surgery on my left wrist/thumb, I no longer could use a controller. The learning curve, even though I’ve driven real cars for many years, was pretty steep.
When I busted through on a lap super fast for me on Road Atlanta Full, I couldn’t believe the time. It was “too easy.” Then I realized I didn’t “force” the cornering, didn’t pound the brakes, didn’t try being precise on every movement, made only small adjustments as I went, and I wasn’t “up-tight” about the run.
It flowed, and I realized I had normal breaths through the whole race, not just breathing on straights. If you force the run, it isn’t going to be your best. Be one with the car and the track. Be smooth. And, most of all, relax.
Just a thought here…I kinda miss the old Gran Turismo thing where instead of being a universally applicable “assist”, if you wanted TCS (on a car which presumably didn’t have it standard) you had to purchase it as a car upgrade. IIRC, the same thing applied to ABS.
I dunno, I guess I just see putting TCS on a 60’s muscle car as borderline unnatural and kinda cheesy, while I see its usage on a modern supercar as the most natural thing in the world. I’d like to see some kinda restriction thing where if the car is SUPPOSED to have driver assists they are available while on cars that do not feature it, it is not. Someone help me out here, I know aftermarket ABS systems exist (though I don’t think they’re very “good”)…do aftermarket TCS systems exist? How common/availible are they?
I do roll my eyes at the people who would look down on someone who uses such a system in a car which was designed to use it.
Hi Lou,
Well, as most people told you, turning any kind of assist on is not cheating by the game standards.
I always drive with auto-clutch when using the controller, because i just cannot seem to get the hang of doing it manual. I loose so much time, it’s crazy. I do however race without any other assists, unless there is a real clear need for it.
Like the bounty hunter race with the Dodge Viper. After countless of laps with it, without TCS, i had come to within 0,2 sec of the target time, but could not seem to get that one great lap together. I had the speed, but kept making small mistakes. So, at the final day, i turned TCS on. It took me about 10 laps to get used to it, but then i started to put in some steady laps and soon i was well within the 2:15’s. Did feel like i failed to a certain degree though, that i was not able to do it without TCS.
After you post, i decided to follow your lead and focus on the C class Le Mans Rivals. Tuned up my Muira and currently i am sitting just 3 places behind you on the leaderboard on the new layout (without TCS )