Yea ive done all the volumes and all I see is the same line-up of cars on each series so thats going to get boring quick. Not a fan of endurance races but if im bored for hours ill probably do it; Cant use the cars online because of the lame career restrictions ill have to upgrade or get a new car lol.
If they fix that issue with the cars and free play it won’t be over. I just can’t believe it was not an oversight. I won’t say I’ll never buy another Forza game again because I love the game, but I will never pre-order a Forza game again if they don’t atleast fix it so we can use all the cars in the game. It’s more about principal than anything else because every unusable car is someone’s favorite, might as well not have the car at all if it can’t be used in the whole game.
This is a shocker. I hadn’t bought the F&F DLC so wasnt that concerned, however now I read that other cars in game can’t be used in career mode due to the class they are in. This is unbelievably short sighted in my book as I like others here do not race online except rivals.
I think we’ll have to have regular threads on DLC to see which of those cars we can actually use in career and therefore whether it’s worth getting at all
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I have no interest in simulation racing in a car with a 36-speed transmission, and altogether completely unrealistic attributes.
Haha. 
Lol, Fast and Furious, if it was only those, it wouldn’t be as bad, I’d still be mad cause I bought the pack, but the problem is there are cars that were part of the game to begin with, not dlc, and they’re unusable in career. That is only one of many problems as stated above and no patch as of yet.
I have a spreadsheet myself as well with all the cars in it. Most cars belong to 1 devision but some cars belong to 2 devisions as well. For example the Subaru Impreza 22B STI belongs to both Rally Day Heroes and Japanese Kings.
Below is the full list of cars (assorted from high to low PI) that don’t belong to any devision, so you can not race them in career mode. In the end it’s not such a big deal IMO since you can still use them online or in free race.
2011 Radical SR8 RX
2013 Ariel Atom 500 V8
2013 Ford Formula Ford EcoBoost 200
1995 Toyota Supra Fast & Furious Edition
1985 Ford RS200 Evolution
1999 Nissan Skyline GT-R Fast & Furious Edition
1969 Dodge Charger Daytona Fast & Furious Edition
2002 Nissan Fairlady Z Fast & Furious Edition
1986 MG Metro 6R4
1952 Ferrari 375
1963 Chevrolet Corvette Grand Sport C2 Fast & Furious Edition
1939 Auto Union Type D
2014 Lamborghini Urus
1939 Maserati 8CTF
2001 Honda S2000 Fast & Furious Edition
2012 Bowler EXR S
1995 Mitsubishi Eclipse GS Fast & Furious Edition
2000 BMW Z8
1968 Dodge Charger Fast & Furious Edition
1970 Ford Escort RS1600 Fast & Furious Edition
1986 Lancia Delta S4
2014 Local Motors Rally Fighter
1974 Lancia Stratos HF Stradale
2013 Mazda MX-5 Cup
2014 Nissan Juke Nismo RS
1991 GMC Syclone
1986 Lamborghini LM 002
1979 Chevrolet Camaro Z28
1973 Renault Alpine A110 1600S
1957 Chevrolet Bel Air
1977 Pontiac Firebird Trans Am
1966 Ford Country Squire
1978 Ford Mustang II King Cobra
1988 Chevrolet Monte Carlo Super Sport
1975 Ford Bronco
2011 Ford Transit SuperSportVan
1997 Land Rover Defender 90
1965 MINI Cooper S
2006 HUMMER H1 Alpha
1991 Jeep Grand Wagoneer
1956 Ford F-100
1980 Subaru BRAT GL
1949 Mercury CTS-V Coupé
1983 GMC Vandura G-1500
2014 Terradyne Gurkha LAPV Fast & Furious Edition
1940 Ford De Luxe Coupe
1963 Volkswagen Beetle
1945 Jeep Willys MB
1968 Abarth 595 esseesse
1963 Volkswagen Type 2 De Luxe
Cars that belong to two devisions :
2000 Nissan Silvia Spec-R 400 Compact Sport Coupé, 500 Japanese Street Kings
1995 Toyota MR2 GT 400 Compact Sport Coupé, 500 Japanese Street Kings
1994 Toyota Celica GT-Four ST205 400 Compact Sport Coupé, 500 Japanese Street Kings
2005 Mazda Mazdaspeed MX-5 400 Compact Sport Coupé, 500 Japanese Street Kings
1992 Nissan Silvia CLUB K’s 400 Compact Sport Coupé, 500 Japanese Street Kings
1992 Toyota Celica GT-Four RC ST185 400 Compact Sport Coupé, 500 Japanese Street Kings
1997 Lexus SC300 400 Compact Sport Coupé, 500 Japanese Street Kings
1990 Subaru Legacy RS 400 Compact Sport Coupé, 500 Japanese Street Kings
1989 Toyota MR2 SC 400 Compact Sport Coupé, 500 Japanese Street Kings
2004 Honda Civic Type-R 400 Hot Hatch Backs, 500 Japanese Street Kings
1997 Honda Civic Type R 400 Hot Hatch Backs, 500 Japanese Street Kings
1991 Honda CR-X SiR 400 Hot Hatch Backs, 500 Japanese Street Kings
1999 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VI GSR 500 Japanese Street Kings, 500 Rally Day Heroes
1998 Subaru Impreza 22B STI 500 Japanese Street Kings, 500 Rally Day Heroes
2015 Subaru WRX STI 500 Rally Day Heroes, 600 Ultimate SpoCom
2004 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VIII MR 500 Rally Day Heroes, 600 Ultimate SpoCom
2005 Subaru Impreza WRX STI 500 Rally Day Heroes, 600 Ultimate SpoCom
2004 Subaru Impreza WRX STI 500 Rally Day Heroes, 600 Ultimate SpoCom
2008 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution X GSR 500 Rally Day Heroes, 600 Ultimate SpoCom
2011 Audi RS 3 Sportback 500 Rally Day Heroes, 600 Ultimate SpoCom
2008 Subaru Impreza WRX STI 500 Rally Day Heroes, 600 Ultimate SpoCom
2011 Subaru WRX STI 500 Rally Day Heroes, 600 Ultimate SpoCom
2006 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution IX MR 500 Rally Day Heroes, 600 Ultimate SpoCom
Also worth noting is that the Lotus E23 is the only car in it’s devision (Modern Grand Prix in chapter 5 of the career mode). 1970’s Grand Prix and Cam Am are scarcely populated devisions as well with resp. only 3 & 4 cars to choose from ::
1976 Lotus #5 Team Lotus 77 900 1970s Grand Prix
1976 McLaren #11 Marlboro Team McLaren M23 900 1970s Grand Prix
1976 Ferrari #1 Scuderia Ferrari 312 T2 900 1970s Grand Prix
1969 Lola #10 Simoniz Special T163 855 Can Am
1969 McLaren #4 McLaren Cars M8B 855 Can Am
1966 Chaparral #66 Chaparral 2E 855 Can Am
1969 Nissan #21 Nissan Racing R382 855 Can Am
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At first I looked at this list and was quite taken aback, but then I realized that only a handful of these are cars I’d really want to race, anyway; weird stuff like the Willys, Type II and Wagoneer, well, I’ve got Horizon for that. It’s just weird that they’d spend all this time working on the cars, and they’re basically only able to work with 1/2 of the game: multiplayer, which I’m not interested in.
Kinda gutted about the Alpine, FnF cars, open wheelers (you have open wheelers in the game, and you can’t use one of the world’s most popular–the Ariel-- in career? What is the point?), and old Ferrari and Auto Union cars, though. Was rally looking forward to taking those through career mode. Still can’t understand why T10 has gone this way. Seems really strange and shortsighted to me.
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Not a big deal?
wut.
You can’t even use the Auto Union cars either which sounds incredible in game…then why the hell were they added, just for online and free mode? So rubbish :\ Why limit the car roster!! That’s 50 cars you can’t use which is tragic, and with DLC packs, probably more you can’t use to come. Sure, you can setup/replicate career mode in freeplay and do online and everything else but that’s not the point…it’s a limitaiton for no good reason and it sucks! It’s a game…it doesn’t need to be super super OTT realistic.
Like here is some showcase ideas to include these cars, or divisions they could be in:
- World War 2 and Post War Multi Class Racing Event: In this special event, choose from cars like the WIllys Jeep, Mercury CTS-V, F-100 and others in one division, and the Auto Union D, Maserati 8CTF and other such cars, in a nail biting division race around a classic world war track
- FF Showcase division multi class event: Race the FF cars against rivals in this action packed race, avoiding the slow moving traffic which must weave between slaloms, can you complete an entire lap before the slower vehicles complete the slalom?
- Road Warriors event: Feautring the Gurkha URUS, Bowler, LM002, Syclone, Bronco, Transit, Defender, Hummer etc etc…in a big v big multiclass event battle showcasing larger than life vehicles
And many more. I know it’s not Horizon, but if these are going to be put in game then surely give them a use!
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Couldn’t agree more - having cars in game that don’t have a use is just stupid, and a first for Forza (ignoring the two Forzavista only cars in FM4).
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In FM4, (and FH2 for that matter) you could pick your car, no matter how it was configured and then easily find a race that suited.
Now, you pick a race and try to find a car that suits.
It’s not actually geared for a car lover anymore.
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FM4 and FH2 are my favorite Forza games because of what you described above. FM4 is what got me away from the other top console simulator because I loved that I could choose a car configured however I wanted and race. I love FM6 but it’s starting to be like that other game which is not good.
On a positive note, I played with some of the cars like the 79 Camaro, the F&F Corvette, Charger, and Supra in free play yesterday. I set up the races like career races in the options menu and had fun. It doesn’t totally make up for the career oversight with so many cars, but atleast you can use them in something similar to career races. It goes from 1 race to the next seamlessly and you still progress as a player, there’s just no sense of completing anything.
I also wanted to thank the person who posted the list of cars that are not usable in career as well as the ones that appear in more than one race type. It’s very appreciated.
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+1.
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You nailed it there, that is EXACTLY what I was thinking as well. And what I really dislike is that the AI drivers don’t adapt to your car anymore, instead YOU have to adapt to their PI. I mean common Turn 10, was this game made for the players or for the drivatars?? It’s really frustrating if you appreciate the classic cars in their stock form, it’s so wrong to upgrade a +/- 300-400 car to a PI of 500 to race it competitive, it completely destroys the spirit of the car. I don’t want to drive super cars, I want to drive cars as authentic as it can be. Don’t force me to upgrade or change parts classic cars, grrrr. 
In FH2 if you drove the stock Willys MB in a rally event all the opponents were stock Willy MB’s as well.
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Exactly. Can’t agree more.
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This is a good post.
And by the way guys, I’m pretty sure Mercury doesn’t make a “CTS-V Coupe.” Cadillac would certainly like to talk to them otherwise.
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And the sad thing is, it’ll be like that for the next 3 games, even when they brag about everything being redone. Once they make a mistake it sticks for multiple entries and sometimes forever.
I wish they had an option in career mode where it was just a Class-Only race (like how they had in the 5 previous games). I miss being able to race my old classic cars verses ferrari’s. I know I can technically do it in Free Play but it far from the same. The Free play isnt against my friends Drivatars and none of the cars have paint jobs (so mines is the only one that is painted and looks different). The only way to get passed this is to use GT or P cars and even sometimes their paint jobs dont come thru (its just plane colors)…
Please fix this or give us the option in Career mode… (Please)
Noted. 
I’ve always been a spreadsheet / data guru and I mainly do this for myself but it’s nice to see it’s useful for other people as well.