Why cant we choose who we gift to?

More than likely due to ease of access of cars. Plus if there was direct selling/gifting to people it would be a modders playground… And would definitely kill the in game economy.

Players would be selling cars for irl money which not only breaks Forzas TOS but Microsofts as well. The Christmas updates give you a list of 3-4 of your friends (shows 3-4 of your friends at random to choose from) which would make this so much harder for modders to gift directly.

Hopefully that explains it a bit more thoroughly. Thats how I see this whole situation personally

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yeah now that i think of it those are some good reasons

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I honestly don’t see why those potential issues should be an automatic dealbreaker. For context, I’ve been playing Team Fortress 2 for almost 15 years now, and it received an in-game trading function early in its life soon after unlockable items were added to the game. This was later expanded into the full cross-game Steam inventory and trading system that exists today. There’s even the separate Steam Marketplace where you can buy and sell select items from games for Steam Wallet funds. Obviously any number of other online-focused games have their own systems for such things. My point being that if many other games have had this figured out for a very long time, in my mind there isn’t much of an excuse for Forza not to do the same.

Now does real money exchange hands in those other games outside of the official systems? Do people at least attempt to hack their way into getting free items? Yes, probably. But I don’t think there’s anything preventing this from taking place in Forza even as-is. There’s nothing stopping someone from requesting cash payments to list super-rare cars on the Auction House, and we know there are savefile editors and other exploits out there to add cars to your account. Sure, you’ll get banned if you’re caught, but I’m sure that doesn’t deter people from trying. If the excuse for not having peer-to-peer trading in the game is to prevent activities that are already happening anyway, then the only people getting hurt by it are the players who want to use it for legitimate purposes.

(And for the record I’d be just fine with “killing” the in-game economy to some extent. I think it’s pretty ridiculous that a game like this has an “economy” in the first place.)

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… there is only an in game economy for people like me, that already have everything, and frankly I don’t really care - it’s my choice if I choose to give something away and for how much already and i do low-ball most of my cars when I sell them on my AH because there is no ‘economy’ in this game.
Speaking of - what is the purpose of taking a 10% cut of all AH sales? Seriously… can anyone explain this to us in a logical and reasonable way?

Modder’s playground - like the leader boards? Or when you let people that exploit game mechanics to to wheel-spin their way to wealth - patch it - have them immediately jump to the next car.

So, this economy you speak of is people - me turning over cars I already own that I win again as they re-appear in the playlist to the roughly over 80+% of people playing this game (of over 40million) that haven’t unlocked the play list - and ONLY buy stuff on the AH.

I’d honestly rather be able to sell them back like wheel spins then have to go through auctioning them.

So - why not just let us gift them… I have kids in my family that play this game, they come to my house to visit - because Uncle SoK has all the best toys and is good at games, and they totally love playing my save game and using all the cars they don’t have and cannot afford. I would LOVE to be able to directly gift my kiddos things I win that I don’t need. As it is, some cars I win, I just remove from my garage entirely - not worth the effort of listing or upgrading - so, What economy? Said it yourself, and I say it all the time when people ask how to get things in game “Play it” best fastest cheapest way to all things - just play the game - it’s not a auction house simulator, and why would you play a game like this like that anyway? Is that what you envisioned?

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Seriously, it’s usually more trouble than it’s worth to deal with dupes when you already have all of the cars. I trash most of them with the occasional gift if I think it’s something people might feasibly want. If it’s one of the hard-to-find main playlist rewards, I’ll usually list them in the AH if they’re something that goes for 20 million, just so I can take pleasure in undercutting the price to the absolute minimum.

Yeah, it’s to prevent people from selling cars outside of the game. This happened in FM4 with the handful of truly hard to get exclusive cars where people would hack them into the game and sell them to other players.

Personally I just want to see the online economy go away completely with reasonable, always accessible and not time locked methods of obtaining every vehicle rather than the awful games as a service model we have now.

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