Whats A Hell Losing Secret?

I agree with HLR Mick, lol, I really hope this never ends. I keep coming back just to get a quick laugh!

ET Tant Pis, I said it in an earlier post, I’ll say it again. The advice that everyone has given you is exactly what you need to listen to. We were all trying as hard as we can to help and in some cases, Eduardo for instance, went way above and beyond.

Arrogance or at least the unwillingness to accept that just maybe, Horizon might be a racing game that YOU need to work at, practice, learn what you’re doing. It is arcade like compared to the Motorsport games, but its no where near as arcade like as games like NFS or the Crew or other games like those.

If you are not wanting to use upgrades, learn to tune or at least download other people’s setups, then I’m not sure what to tell you. I suppose my best advice would be to turn the suggested driving line on or at least the braking line, to keep running rivals, start with D Class. Pick whatever track you’d like to work on and keep following the ghosts of people on the leaderboards.

By doing that 2 things could happen. You could see what a proper line and speed to take through a turn. Maybe learn the tracks better. Just by those 2 things I have to think you will improve.

Beyond that, we’ve all tried to help. Given sincere advice that’s been disregarded by you. Not much anyone can do about that, other than you. And you asked for help by starting this thread.

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Et Tant Pis the reality is the developers have put out a game where builds (not so much tune settings) but builds are critical. You say surely the developers would have not done that, well they have.

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Quite possible. They made other mistakes also, and also critical.

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Well you manage to blame every mistakes you made on your gaming setup/game codes; when people are giving advice, and criticise that you don’t listen, you blame others as incompetent and not in the same level as you are, so they couldn’t figure out your problem. Congratulation! Consistency is very crucial to be a good racer, you obviously have a very consistence behaviour. Looking forward to see you improve with that.
/s

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This guy is awful at driving and can’t admit it so who does he blame? A) the game B) the devs C) the wheel D) the physics. Text your answer to 367923 now.

But seriously dude, take the advice or just not play. Ed has given you page after page after page of advice. Either you take the advice and concentrate on tuning or keep losing. It’s obvious you’re not an elite player. You’re a “noob.”

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You contradict yourself. Started with awful driving, then make command to concentrate on tuning. For what I need tuning, if I cannot drive at all, really?

That’s not contradiction buddy. That’s why I said “AND.”

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We should have an awards thread at the end of the year. I’d nominate this for thread of the year. Honorable mention: the buffing and nerfing thread.

Now normally I’m not one for performance art but sometimes you just have to stand back and appreciate all the effort.

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Soviet Skrub: “My wings are made of terillium-carbonic alloy and I can fly.”

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Taking seriously, I wonder, does anybody of those who give me different advises use racing wheel in the game? Its important. Looks like, situation in Forza is quite special. Before buying Horizon I downloaded motorsport Apex beta. That time I havent compatible wheel at all, and I used keyboard (I have no any joystic and never tried wheeling with left hand finger at all). So, immediatly I found, that simple intake works exellent here at corners: multiple, or, better to say, multi-multiple touching of turn key with releaing for a very few part of second - its just the way to victory. With muscle cars I beated AI at maximum difficulty. And I decided, that this game is very friendly to me, becayse its similar to may winning intake in rally games: make turns with such fast, even convulsive multiple return to center.

So, now, when I tried Horizon, I see, really, just the same the only thing helpful here… but in demand a bit too much. At least with MOMO I cannot make such jerk movements, virtual wheel does not return to center quite fast. So, I suspect, that in joystic it must be easier, and its just the way for that jerky cornetring, which looks strange in “simulator”. So, may be, here we realy face the fact, that racing simulator - its just the game, which does not support any joystic?.. I played enough GTR - RACE series, Live For Speed and many other games… dont know, does they support joystics, but wheel there worked definitely better. So… can anybody confirm or disprove all these?

PS. I tried weekly challenge, which Eduardo recommended. I found the fact that leaders at one place furiously cut track with fence destroying. Is it fair or they will be disqualified? Thanks for answering.

If you’re so sure everyone here is wrong and that the problem is your wheel, THEN GET A CONTROLLER!!!

I mean seriously…

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In FRC shortcut is ok.

If you want to compare to a no shortcut time compare to mine.

Eduardo, you have the patience of a saint. I’m pretty sure Et Tant Pis is beyond helping thanks to his incredible arrogance.

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If nothing else i have a new rival to beat, clean :wink:

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That’s awesome!! Lmao!!!

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I’ll think of this thread every time I hear this;

The Key, The Secret;


I will start by leaving this here :

This thread is funny , but as silly as it sounds , I can actually believe the OP a little bit . I will pitch in a bit here with some Russian translations here and there ( Thanks to Google ) so I can help avoid any confusion . :slight_smile:

I watched the videos with the Aston Martin V8 and the BMW X6 M in the OP , and I could understand there was a lot that could be improved , but having seen the pictures I quoted , along with the recent video he made on his YouTube ( I decided to watch a few more that were more recent ) his driving on this game has already improved a lot . However , there is a couple of things I could still suggest to the OP which I think can be really helpful :

  1. Turn off automatic ( автоматический ) and start using either manual ( руководство ) with or without clutch ( сцепление ) . You will find that when using automatic , the car will shift up ( сдвигаются вверх ) before it goes into the higher part of the gear ( шестерня ) which is what the faster people use because it is just faster in this game . Forgive me if you already know this but , I can only tell from what I saw in your videos about what you are using .

  2. ( You can ignore this one if you like ) Turn on the ’ Braking only ’ ( торможение только ) ’ Suggested Line ’ ( предложил линии ) . Now , even though you think you do not need it ( And I can agree . Seeing your newest video I saw you driving on the track ( трек ) really well without it , which I can say you do not need to use it in that case :slight_smile: . ) there is another reason you can use the line which is not using it to know where to take the corners . You can use this line to know where to brake ( затормозить ) . The game will help you to see where to brake , even though you are on any part of the road ( Дорога ) . Again , seeing your recent video , you are probably ok without this , but , especially when you are racing on new tracks ( новый трек ) , I especially find this helpful as it stops me from hitting the wall because I have not learned ( учиться ) the track yet . I know it sounds like I am telling you how to drive which you really do not want to hear BUT , it is just so you can learn the tracks a bit better . You can ignore this if you like and go and learn the tracks without it . Up to you to choose . I think you can do it with or without . No need to tell me what you think about using the line :stuck_out_tongue: .

  3. Something that I think few ( if any ) have really pinpointed ( определить ) so far , the ratings for every class of car ( e.g A 800 , S2 996 ) do not mean that every car with the same rating will act or drive the same way , be just as fast or corner as good as each other . If one car is A 800 and another is also A 800 , this won’t mean they are equal in any way . You will find in this game that there will be other cars that can be much faster in one class than another . Now , the reasons for this will link to what most have already said here about tuning and building cars . Yes , driving is something separate to this , however , in this game , if you want to win well , having the right tuning , build and car is half the battle . If you want to call anything a secret to being fast , it is using the same tuning , same build , and same car as the best out there ( Unless you manage to discover something is better , but this does not happen often :stuck_out_tongue: ) . I would suggest remembering the names of the people who manage to be the fastest on any track ( трек ) because they sometimes share their tuning for others to use , meaning you can use what they had to be the fastest too :wink: . If you want to make your own cars and tuning , I would say that you use lots of power and AWD or four wheel drive ( полный привод ) because these are what seem to make the fastest cars in each class in this game . I would not say ignore any cornering no , but only using cornering upgrades ( Обновить ) will not make a car the fastest in the class you have it in . This is the truth of this game for any class except I guess S2 . ( Yes I know , I am really generalising here guys , but it all starts from somewhere . )

When you see everyone and the offline opponents fly away at the start of a race , and turn the corners like they are on rails , it is because of the cars they have are able to do this since they were created to run this way . Absolutely , it is not related to the way you are driving . Also , the ’ Speed ’ ( скорость ) rating on cars can be a lie sometimes . A 10 speed rating does not mean it will absolutely go as fast as a Japanese Bullet Train . I have cars with something like a 6.7 speed rating and they go that fast , then I have others with a 10 that only go to 340 km/h ( 211 mph ) , which is much slower .

  1. If you are still using full aids on steering ( рулевое управление ) or braking ( затормозить ) turn them off or turn them down away from full . The reason that you would suddenly feel like you can’t go faster than 130 or 200 or it feels stuck at that speed , is because of these two aids . Yes , both of them . They make you slow down . However , it does not really look like you have it on in your most recent video in the Rally Fighter ( ралли истребитель ) , but I still feel like I should still say it just so it is known what these aids are doing when they are used .

Lastly , I would really replace that MOMO wheel . It is old , and I can be sure that it is not a wheel that the game makers will say the game can be played with . However , if you can manage to make it work with no problems using it , then that’s fine , but controllers ( контроллер ) can be pretty much as fast as the best wheels out there , so if you want to be faster and the wheel is not helping you by acting weird or not responding , I would stop using the wheel .

Hope this helps , and ends the suffering that so many people here appear to be having . Lol .

+1 to Reliant Racing too . We have been racing them at meets . Fun at every corner . XD

This is a fine piece of world record caliber trolling right here.

I got more tips on the game than any other thread I’ve ever read. Thanks y’all!

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