What is the point of the upgrade shop when you can’t fully work your cars because it’s no longer in its class and every car you buy is ready to race in this class
There used to be a class racing meaning class e to class r now that’s no longer in the game I thought it will come back but It didn’t now the only game that you can use a fully worked car in now is the Horizon series
But saying all that I do like the divisions in the game but I would have loved if they brought back the class division so you can race any car as long as the class matched
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You can still upgrade the cars. I forget where the option to turn auto upgrade off was, but when I buy a car I take the stock parts option and upgrade according to the max restriction of the race series.
I always go for the suspension and tires first, followed by transmission. Power is always the last thing I upgrade.
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Same, you can go to tune, set up manager and fit all stock components. Like he said, you can buy cars with stock parts as well, but I’ve been playing many series races on hard, long duration and with modds all the way, so I just buy car and do what I previously stated. Tune, setup manager, fit stock parts, buy suspension and transmission upgrades If poss.
LOL, post # 2 and 3 completely missed the point… you can’t race the car you want … and upgrade it how you want… you’re limited to how turn10 thinks you should have your car upgraded and what car turn10 thinks you should be using… gone are the days of playing forza your way, using the cars you want and upgrading and tuning the car the way you want…
the franchise has been deliberately hobbled to please what seems to be a minority who wanted forza to be more like need for speed (…and gran turismo and the rest of the sub-forza racing genres), at the expense of forza loyalists like myself who’ve bought every forza game they’ve ever made spent 1000’s of hours racing and tuning… and thus feel betrayed and ripped off with forza 7… if i had bought a digital copy i would have gotten a refund like many other have, because as is, i’ll be going back to either forza 6/horizon3 or finding a new racing game… forza 7 (aside from graphics, car/track count, and overall car handling) is significantly below the standards that forza loyalists have come to expect.
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- You can do all of this in freeplay. Set up races based off of pi.
- Forza Motorsport title suggest more restrictions for racing than say open world Horizon. I would expect more balanced cars to keep racing closer. Pretty lame in previous titles to race S class cars and have an e or d car upgraded and allowed to race against them online. Pretty stupid to see rival lb dominated by jeep willy’s or 66 vw bug.
- Forza Motorsport wouldn’t exist if not for Gran Turismo. It was created to take a piece of the pie from Sony’s racing simulator to Microsoft. I was one that jumped from GT to FM on the Xbox.
- Above point shows that I have been racing Forza since the first and I like the homologation for the career mode. As statrd before Freeplay can be set up almost anyway you want. I will concede that perhaps online it should be leagues for homologation and class for regular hoppers. Hot lap times should be based off of T10 choice if it has anything to do with ranking for ESL racing.
- With all of the crashes, unable to load game, and other bugs that actually need fixed…I will never understand the gripe about features that are actually working.
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This is totally upsetting… Had I known upgrades were pointless, I would have bought a 360, and Forza 2…
The classes keeps the career race in a “competitive” state, as the classes would be raced in real life.
THE POINT to still being able to upgrade your car is because you don’t HAVE to play career, Race any car you want on any track. And if you NEED the career to give you some sort of meaning? Then I’m sorry? I spend about 90% of my time when I’m not playing online. In free play.
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I always use my own upgrade config. Stock (as bought) is mostly crap.
Free Play allows the freedom the OP is after, I believe.
And I think some war dogs must’ve fallen down somewhere.
Not quite. If you mess up the homologation you are put into an open-class race. If you, for example, will make a R class car, that does not fit into homologation rules, and then choose from the options this race to be R class only, you will be alone on the track, because all the AI cars will be removed from the race.
Homologation is good for MP, but there should be an option for doing the old class races as well. Career should be mix of the old system and homologation. Free play should allow us to do whatever we want to do, which includes doing one class only races, even, when the homologation rules are broken.
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You still can run open class and do some tweaking in the race options. Set division to open or all and do the rest in advanced options.
in free play , when you understand how to do it you can do everything you want.
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Except choosing the exact AI opponents, which would have solved a lot of problems for many. Instead of picking a bunch of restriction to try to match what you want, you could simply pick the cars to go against, their Homologation and/or PI and poof go racing. Easily recreate multi class race, or just set a couple of real slow car on endurance to generate different traffic, etc. Ideally if the AI was brighter you could even load specific tune for each of your opponent.
And without an ability to save your favorite setup, it is cumbersome.
Even more if you would wish to create a serie ,you would repeat this whole setup process for each race you wanted to race AND record results manually. It’s a shame considering something like that was achieved in FH3 via custom series. Yup, some of this stuff already existed in previous Forza.
There’s good in there, but a huge missed opportunity to make it much better.
Zak
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Nope. I want to build, test and tune drag cars. No Air Strip open space, no test drive in drag period. I understand the possibility is there to ALMOST do what has always been there to do. Functionality and the ability to do what I want has been either removed or changed to where it’s no longer what I could do in the past.
I really hope that makes sense, been a long day! Lol
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Not sure why they didn’t enable test drive on the Drag Circuit.
Just another case of drag racing getting no respect! 
I have been doing my drag tuning in the Free Play races and then chose restart, adjust tunes /build and repeat. Takes much longer, but I do get paid a little for it…at least 
On a related note – noticed that the Roll Off Delay option in Group options is not working. It would be nice to if it did. We could impose start handicaps for different classes like real drag racing. There are ton more user controlled variable / restrictions than previous titles, shame that they all don’t seem to be working correctly.
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Good point. The ability to save race setups would help a lot. That also would help against those test drive complaints-simply load and go for a ride
there is a way you have to restart the race you’v just done and then quit it will save your race set up.
What I’ve quoted is what post #2 and 3 are referring to.
Mike, this is auto-upgrading which is exactly the same as other Forzas. You can make your own build like every other Forza as long as it meets the build specs.
Every car you buy is ready to race, but is not optimized to be competitive. Random upgrades that are useless like flywheel and clutch are common in these junk builds.
The posts by RPM Swerve and theSNaiL46 are spot on. You ca n race any car in open against similar AI in any PI level up to the max capability of the chosen car. Your times will go on the OPEN LB and you may be far behind the X and P class entries, but you will be there.
BTW - every race you have ever watched on TV or at you local dirt track has homologation restrictions at some level. Exception may be truly open Track Days events. Upgrading and racing your car in different classes is setup differently and takes more effort than previous FM titles, but it definitely can be done. Use the Bucket and PI restrictions to get the AI closer to your car settings. Or go a crazy and race your D400 VW Bug against A700 Porsches…its all doable.
Yeah, I swear, if ANYBODY here on the forums has the knowledge or means, I would absolutely love to make a drag racing game since no one other than smart phone folks are bothering to do so. So much potential in an untapped market. Turn 10 has the means, just no ambition. I dreamt of it and havr seen it in my mind for so long. Oh, to dream, lol!!
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