Tuner's, do you build a tune for each track?

What I am wondering, I usually build a basic tune via forza 6 tune app. ( great app btw). Which I can then run my favorite cars on most tracks. Do any of you spend the time to build a specific tune for particular tracks? Obviously a tune for Daytona oval won’t work for Catalunya, but would you set gearing or Springs to differ between Spa and Sebring?

I only built track-specific tunes when I was competing in a racing club; normally we’d visit 1 track per week and I’d spend that week optimising my car.

When it comes to general racing however I build my car to perform well at Catalunya, as that’s a circuit that can expose weak suspension settings. If a car can go quick around Catalunya, it’s generally a good car for most tracks in Hoppers. Should I need a speed tune I’ll develop a car to go well around Daytona or Indianapolis.

As I focus on Hopper racing moreso than leaderboards, having tunes that can work in multiple places is important.

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To elaborate on that tierney said. I will tune my lb type cars for multiple tracks if necessary. I will tune race league (organized outside of forza) for the tracks in the tracklist for the event. But other than that a basic tune that does well on tracks like catalunya will work well. One thing you may want to do differently for tuning an all around car is extend your gears out a bit. Even tho the straight at cat is pretty good, give yourself a little room incase you get on indy or something like that.

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For the most part i try to build and tune for 1 size fits all unless its the ovals, at the ovals its somewhat different along for lemans. I normally use Catalunya for my basic tuning track.

I run a generic set up and then tweak gearing is a tuneable box is there and the diff… If I have aero I’ll play with that for Alps but other than that I tune the car at 3 different tracks to give a solid tune.

I do the same; one generic tune that suits the car.

Not really, I like tuning on a track that has a bit of everything, so I mostly tune on Catalunya GP. If I want more speed for a track like Daytona, I’ll change the build accordingly but the setup stays mostly the same other than a few tweaks to gears, aero or diff.

I have just started really tuning but, I think specific track tuning will yield the best results for a specific car on a specific track. That said I am currently using Brands Hatch, Sebring Full, and Rio Mountain for creating a tune for multiple tracks. At one point I was using Catalunya as PjTierney suggested. After the ring contest I am considering that as my testing grounds. It’s not LB on every track but is very competitive in lobbies. The car I did for that performs well in lobbies on many different tracks short, medium and long.

@rabbits

What 3 tracks are your testing grounds and why?

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Sebring full as its a bumpy old track so great for suspension and damping work, Silverstone for gearing, aero and Diff work, Sedona GP for brakes, alignment and tyre pressures.

Reason I use Silverstone for gearing, aero and diff set up is its layout. It’s pretty flat and has a strong mix of corners requiring downforce, a well set up diff to keep the car stable for the changes in speeds and strong gearing to stay in the powerband right the way through the track.

Sedona for the brakes, alignment and tyre pressures because the changes in elevation, camber and it’s mix of corners and straight really stress those components and bring the weaknesses forward.

Once I’ve done the set up work I’ll test on all 3 again to be sure it’ll drive nicely right the way through. The only areas I’ll custom tune for are NBR (except GP)/Alps and ovals.

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what wheels are they?

Ive been trying out Rio full as a tuning track. Rio has sweepers, sharp cuts, elevation changes, city streets, switch backs and a hairpin. You build a car that is good at Rio, it should be good almost everywhere else. IMO. I used to tune at mugelllo . That was my favorite track to tune. I’d kinda like to see that track come back

Groups, most GP tracks require the same setup car.
Road America/Atlanta require a different one
Le Mans is a track of it’s own.

Just have different paints to tell them apart. You cannot have a car that works at every track. It isn’t possible because the build matters way, way more than the tune.

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I rebuild for every track. Sometimes the tune can transfer sometimes it can’t but it is beneficial to drive it everywhere to expose problems. Sometimes one track needs a slight tweak that is neutral on others so a tune works on more than one track.

I tend to group the following as well:
Long Beach/Sebring - acceleration is king with possible drag inspired setup
Alps - Catalynia build with different tune
Prague - GP inspired build with softer suspension
Bathurst - GP inspired build with less ARB & stiffer springs (I tend to be slow with too much grip)
Indy Oval, Daytona Speedway, LeMans - Three unique tunes but Old LeMans and Daytona can share a lot on occasion.

Crash

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Catalunya and Suzuka when I started to tune in forza 4
Catalunya now for the general raw tune followed up by the ring and COTA for the fine tuning

Thank you all, I’ve used Sebring and Catalunya many times as my test bed also.
Off subject alittle, do any of you run serious clubs still, in private lobbies, I’d love to find cleaner, more respectful drivers to run with. Makes the competition more fun, and racing more enjoyable.

Thank you again. More or less curious about general consensus over general tune to track specific.

I’m trying to keep it on 1 generic tune, except for racing league Builds/Tunes but there is couple tracks that need slightly different approach, Alps because constant high speed and flowing turns, Rio for bumpy track, And of course speed track vs grip / Acceleration track.

But in genral, I really try to make car capeable for majority of tracks. And my “test tracks” are catalonya, Nurnburgring GP and COTA full. usually if you can get the car working on any of these it ends up being pretty good.

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THATS WHAT I DO, for example i have a S2000 for limerock and a hellcat for the nurburring

Personally i build for each type of track. I dont really have time anymore to fine tune so this is the next best thing and still works out well. If you want to build good handling cars i would recommend using catalunya as your test track. For speed try somewhere like bathurst or indy. For small tracks that require high acceleration id reccomend laguna seca or long beach. Thats just me though. Try out different tracks for each setup type and see what works for you. As for wet races go with your FT6 and fine tune from there as these will give you a good wet base. (Thats what she said…sorry thought id get that in :wink:)

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I do the same thing every time a new forza come out.
I’m always saying: I’m gonna build 1 car for each track in each class, and always end up just running random car in my garage.

For most tracks I run the same suspension setup, now bumpier tracks I tend to soften the suspension i.e. Circuit de la Sarthe, the Ring etc, and smoother tracks like Lime Rock, Prague etc, I tend to run a stiffer suspension. For the most part I have all my cars gear boxes tuned to stay in the power band of every gear (based on RPM), and then based on the track, I either lengthen or shorten the final drive.

I try to tune the gearbox for each track in a way, for example, to take a turn or majority of the turns at a set speed, i’ll tune it so i’ll be bouncing off the rev limiter in 2nd, but it’s pretty close to the max speed at which you can take that turn, not lose control, and provided you take a good line, get a perfect turn. And based on the track, I try to tune the gears for that, it’s tedious, but definitely helps and reduces the amount of shifting is fairly efficient. All of my tunes, granted aren’t like top 100, but they all are in the top 1% and I tune em myself from scratch.