This game needs a rebalance

Forza Horizon Forza Horizon 5 FH5 Discussion
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As we all know, fh5 has its pros and cons compared to previous horizon games, but there are some design fails and illogical issues which should be fixed months ago. So here is my honest wishlist of game improvements and rebalances.

  1. Fix online. The current state of online is still bad. I often play with my friend and we have a lot of issues like disappearing and random disconnects in convoy, so convoys are still not fixed. Next are dynamic lobbies which are absolutely terrible. The game feels so empty and lifeless despite having huge map. Devs should bring back lobby system from fh3 and fh4, because players in these games were visible and present.

  2. Redesign forza link. Forza link in fh5 is very limited due to two ai options which can’t be turned off. Already in fh4 there were too few options, but in the latest title this is not acceptable. At least let players switch ai chat options into normal options.

  3. Reduce count of cars received by completing challenges and trials. Yes sometimes there are interesting cars, but most of them are repeatable. I mean cheap low class cars which are slow and you receive them very often. This leads to garage being bloated by cheap duplicates.

  4. Let players choose horns for separate cars. This feature is requested by many people. Every month multiple horns are added to this game, but they are wasted potential. It’s very frustrating to search one specific sound among many everytime when I want to set new horn, because I switched the car and the horn doesn’t fit with car’s style.

  5. Recalculate pi. There are so many problems with ingame pi. For example engines which in real life can be tuned to over 1500hp in the game gain only few hp when tuned to max. Next issue are car classes. D class is too stretched. It should be chopped into 5 separate classes like: D500 E400 F300 G200 H100. Another misunderstanding. How small ugly forza spoiler can give more downforce than big stock wing created by best designers? There was huge pi fail when drift gearbox was released. It lowered raesr tachyon from s2 class to a class making it meta car and ruining a class races.

  6. Rebalance eliminator. Eliminator is terribly unblalanced, and 2 class audi rs6 outperforms 5 class deberti f150 which is slower than most of low class cars.

  7. Add horizon stories that make sense. Mexico drift club was the first story where I heard serious things about cars in this game. This game needs more serious stories. Businesses similar to fh4 would be great too.

  8. Update some car models. Forza actually has a lot of good loking car models. Some are older some are newer but generally they doesn’t look bad. Despite model accuracy there are many car models which are inaccurate. Worst cases: nissan silvia s15, volgswagen golf r32 and subaru 22b sti.
    Bad thing is that most of these inaccurate models are iconic cars from 80s, 90s and 2000s. Regular supra mk4 also looks bad compared to newer fd supra mk4 model.

  9. Let us customize garage. A feature which is also requested by forza community. Garages in fh5 look clean and sterile. This helps a lot when making liveries, but makes sitting in garage boring. Adding options to buy furniture, customize floor, and add things like tires and car parts would make game more interesting.

  10. Increase camera angles. Camera is very limited. In cockpit view character barely can look into directions and is unable to look up or down which ruins the immersion. Camera angle is also very limited in forza vista mode where player often wants to look back while sitting in a car, but camera limitation makes this impossible.

  11. Bring back camera shake in 1st and 3rd person. Camera shake in fh3 and fh4 was very immersive. Especially when turning a big offroad car with soft suspension or driving it on bumpy terrain. For some reason this game effect has been nerfed in fh5.

  12. Bring back paddle shifter animations. A little detail that makes driving in cockpit view so much better. It was in fm7 an fh4 and has been removed in fh5. After some features were reintroduced lets hope that devs will decide to bring back this cool detail

And what do you think about this improvement list? Do you have more ideas how devs should improve the game?

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Good suggestions. My thoughts Quality Of Life Improvements Megalist.

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Some excellent suggestions.

I would add:

Rework Horizon Arcade. In Horizon 4 the hourly forzathons were a lot of fun as often you had a few other players. Now in Horizon 5, 90% of the time you’re on your own so it’s a grind this out as quick as you can rather than having a bit of fun.

Ranked online racing. I miss this from Horizon 4. Essentially all we’ve got in Horizon 5 are some crappy looking badges.

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Bringing back F-class would be a good thing. I remember it from Motorsport and I think there is no reason not to include it in Horizon too especially considering it has cars like the Renault 4 and the Peels which can be modified quite extensively and still stay at D100.

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PI system especially in the Open lobbies, #1 issue in this game.

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  1. I personally don’t play online, but I know a lot of people do, so I agree.

  2. Honestly, just throw ForzaLink away and either allow us to open a tab where we can finally use indicators, put down windows, and other highly requested features, or at least allow us to the open the map while using the manual transmission without having to go into the menu.

  3. Agreed. Prizes should be expensive cars that take time to get otherwise. Cheap cars from the Autoshow as prizes makes little sense since they are, well, cheap.

  4. Absolutely.

  5. Again, absolutely.

  6. Again, don’t play online, so I can’t comment, but I’ll assume this is highly needed.

  7. Heck yes. The only Horizon Story I enjoyed was the wrestler one (and it was only one of two that actually made sense narratively speaking). Seriously, either write better stories, or save yourself a lot of time and budget by just bringing back Bucket List Challenges so you don’t need to hire so many bad writers and cheesy actors.

  8. Absolutely yes.

  9. Agreed.

  10. Agreed.

  11. Agreed.

  12. Agreed, but also finally properly animate all of the gear sticks too. Just do the Test Drive Unlimited method and have them just go back and forth if you need to. Although, fully animated the gate shifters. Cursed Miura shifting from TDU1 still haunts me.

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Better yet, make a G-Class for all of the D100s. That way you have F-Class for 200 to 300, E-Class for 300 to 400, D-Class for 400 to 500, and so on and so forth.

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I’m so ready for a G class Goliath. :smile:

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What about a P class? When are they going to allow us to ride ponies?

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I know the PI system is flawed for this title and won’t change but I cannot stress enough how much I despise it.
Completely unbalanced vehicle traits and thus predictability of car performance.
Stupid powerbuilds creeping into every class ruining the already exploit-infested leaderboards.
For example I had a fun battle over #1 on D500 Ek Balam until the Peel Trident was added and demolished our times by nearly two seconds. Thanks for nothing I guess?
D500 and C600 are pure powerbuild fiestas.
The PI system needs to learn that it still has to increase PI when the car is being overloaded with power because in the end it can be utilized - although the current system thinks it can not.

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I want more restrictions for races. In Motorsport some races were restricted by engine size, aspiration, cilinders or stock/modified. It made for fun races! In Horizon it’s mostly car type, class, year or brand. It gets quite stale after a while. You’re basically racing against the same cars over and over again

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