Some charts and data on FM5 cars and tracks

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FM5 Charts and Stuff

Now that we’re about nine months into playing Forza Motorsport 5 with well-established car and track data I thought I’d assemble some charts to visualize the numbers.

In this thread
Number of Cars per Class
Cars by Country, configuration, category…
Car Value
Horsepower
Top Speed
Lateral g’s
Weight/HP
0-100 mph
100-0 mph
Track Lengths
Average Speed per Track
Other Stats

This data is all pulled from the game and can be found in my online spreadsheet at www.ManteoMax.com You can sort and filter fields online by changing the View menu (this creates on online local session that won’t affect the source spreadsheet for anyone else). Feel free to download the spreadsheet and check or manipulate the data. Please note that I transcribed all this by hand, including the leaderboard times, so there may be an error or two (let me know and I’ll correct it).

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Cars by the Numbers


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As of mid August 2014 there are currently 320 car models in the game that at least some players can use. That includes all four Dallara DW12 models which are identical in specs, all special livery cars (Limited Edition, Day One, and Audi, Camaro, and McLaren single DLCs), and other accessible DLC cars. The multiplayer options indicate 322 because there is a Dodge Charger Xbox Edition which is not available to anyone (yet?), plus a Null car placeholder. Here’s the breakdown:

320 car models (as of August)
209 install and free DLC cars (Honda and August content update)
100 available paid DLC cars (VIP, Monthly, and Booster packs)
11 limited access DLC cars (LE, Day One, and individual livery models)

See the Cars and DLC thread for more detailed info on each DLC.

Cars per Class
D - 104
C - 83
B - 40
A - 48
S - 13
R - 18
P - 9
X - 5

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Cars by Category


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Manufacturers represented: 67
Countries represented: 10

Asia - 58
Japan - 55 cars, 6 manufacturers
Korea - 3 cars, 2 manufacturers

Europe - 163
Australia - 3 cars, 1 manufacturer
Austria - 1 car, 1 manufacturer
France - 9 cars, 4 manufacturers
Germany - 56 cars, 5 manufacturers
Italy - 54 cars, 8 manufacturers
Sweden - 1 car, 1 manufacturer
U.K. - 39 cars, 15 manufacturers

North America - 99
U.S. - 99 cars, 24 manufacturers

Engine Placement:
Front - 231
Mid - 85
Rear - 4 (RUF, and the Beetle)

Engine Configurations:
V - 192
W - 2
Inline - 106
Rotary - 5
Flat - 14
Electric - 1
Currently unused: Serial Hybrid, Parallel Hybrid, Series Parallel Hybrid

Cylinders:
4 - 87
5 - 9
6 - 49
8 - 117
10 - 11
12 - 40
16 - 1
2 Rotor - 4
4 Rotor - 1
Electric - 1
Currently unused: 3 and 3 Rotor

Aspiration:
Naturally Aspirated - 202
Turbocharged - 57
Twin Turbocharged - 42
Positive Displacement Supercharger (aka Roots) - 18
Other multiplayer options: Quad Turbocharged, Centrifugal Supercharger

Smallest Displacement: 1.1 liters (Lotus Elan, Mazda RX-3)
Largest Displacement: 8.4 liters (Vipers)

Drivetrain:
Front - 34
Rear - 226
AWD - 60

Body Families: 36
(see Cars and DLC thread for breakdown)
Note: Some of the available cars do not have an assigned Body Family which may or may not correspond to these unused families: 1980s Grand Prix, 1990s Grand Prix, American Stock Cars, Early GT Racing, Early Prototype Racing, Pre-War Grand Prix, Pro Stock Drag Racing, Racing Trucks, Sport Trucks 1.

Model Families: 31
Currently unused Model Families: 911, CTS, Hybrid, Mazda3, Murcielago, Supra.

Car Types:
Pre-Tuned - 4
Production - 282
Race - 34

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Cars by Value


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That great bang-for-buck in the lower right corner is the Infiniti #77 Indy Lights car rated at P980 for only 100,000 credits.

Lowest credit value: 12,000 credits (compacts and hatches, etc)
Highest credit value: 2,000,000 credits (Ferrari 250 GTO, Lotus E21, Ford Foyt #14 Gilmore Coyote)
Total credit value: 91,725,000 credits
Average credit value: 286,640

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Power


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Lowest horsepower: 40 hp (VW Beetle. The Fiat X1/9 is next with 61)
Highest horsepower: 1200 hp (Hennessey Venom. The Bugatti Veyron SS is close with 1183)

Some notable engines:
Mazda #7 USF2000 - 170 hp. R-class grip and C-class power put this car in the middle at A676 class.
Mazda RX-7 '97 - 261 hp. The most powerful engine under 2.0 liters.
Dallara IndyCars - 680 hp
Lotus E21 - 750 hp.
LaFerrari - 963 hp. The most powerful engine classified as Naturally Aspirated.

Highest upgraded output: 1358 hp (Bugatti Veyron SS)

See the Engine Swap List thread for more details on engines.

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Speed


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Lowest Top Speed: 83.0 mph (VW Beetle. The 1940 Ford De Luxe also can’t make it to 100 mph.)
Highest Top Speed: 267.6 mph (Bugatti Veyron SS, just beating the Hennessey Venom at 267.0 mph.)

Other notable speedsters:
1939 Auto Union Type D - 229.8 mph, much higher than its C and B class neighbors.
Ford Formula Ford Ecoboost, Mazda #7 USF2000, and Renault Spark - each in upper A to lower S class but only reaching 140 to 147 mph.

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Handling


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This chart appears to be a mostly unremarkable flat line until you see the dot for the Lotus E21 in the upper right, dwarfing everything else.

Lowest Lateral G’s @ 60 mph: 0.88 (GMC Vandura, beat by the El Camino and Ford F-100 at 0.91)
Highest Lateral G’s @ 60 mph: 2.00 (Lotus E21. Followed by the Infiniti #77 Indy Lights at 1.70)
Lowest Lateral G’s @ 100 mph: 0.77 (El Camino. Don’t worry, the Vandura is close behind at 0.78)
Highest Lateral G’s @ 100 mph: 3.53 (E21. The next nearest is the Infiniti #77 Indy Lights at 2.42)

The El Camino and Vandura also score a low of 3.0 Handling, while the Lotus E21 is the only car to score a 10.0

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Weight per Horsepower


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Some automotive outlets might use the inverse power-to-weight ratio expressed as kilowatts per tonne, but I find this easier to read: weight in pounds divided by horsepower.

Highest Wt/HP: 44.00 (VW Beetle. The Fiat X1/9 is next at 36.23)
Lowest Wt/HP: 1.67 (1977 Ford Coyote, classified as a Production car. 1380 lbs with 825 hp. Next lowest is the Lotus E21 at 1.90)
Heaviest car: 8114 lbs (Hummer H1 Alpha, in D class)
Lightest car: 1069 lbs (Ford Formula Ford Ecoboost, in S class)

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Acceleration


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Fastest 0-60 mph: 2.300 seconds (Formula Ford Ecoboost. The Ferrari 312T2 is the only other car under 2.5s)
Slowest 0-60 mph: 23.000 seconds (VW Beetle, more than 6 seconds slower than the 1940 Ford De Luxe)
Fastest 0-100 mph: 4.500 seconds (Lotus E21. The McLaren P1 is next at 5.185 seconds. )
Slowest 0-100 mph: 98.718 seconds (GMC Vandura. But the Beetle and De Luxe ‘win’ because they top out under 100 mph)

Note the low 9.300 time for the Dodge Dart in D class, evidence of its purpose-built drag capabilities.

I’ve tuned a Caterham down to a 0-60 benchmark time of 1.136 seconds and 2.433 seconds to 100 mph - what’s the lowest displayed benchmark you’ve been able to achieve?

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Braking


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Shortest 60mph stopping distance: 66.0 feet (Lotus E21, followed by the Infiniti #77 at 71.2 feet)
Longest 60mph stopping distance: 230.7 feet (Ford F150 Raptor, well beyond the 205.4 feet for the Hummer)
Shortest 100mph stopping distance: 141.9 feet (Lotus E21, well short of 172.4 feet for the Mazda #55 787B)
Longest 100mph stopping distance: 468.0 feet (Hummer H1. Technically the Beetle and De Luxe can’t reach 100 so it calculates as ‘Failed!’ but engine upgrades without changing weight suggest they can stop in the low 300 feet range.)

The Chevy Chevelle SS-454, El Camino, and Nova SS 396 all score a 3.0 on Braking. The Lotus is the only 10.0 with the Mazda #55 at 9.3.

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Tracks


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For this chart I merged duplicate track lengths: the 2- and 8- car drag tracks, as well as the Reverse layouts, for display purposes.

Number of Environments: 17
Total Tracks: 59 (including 2- and 8- car drag, and Reverse layouts)
Total Leaderboards: 472 (plus 31 permanent Rivals events)
Shortest Track: 0.25 miles (drag tracks. Long Beach West is the shortest circuit at 0.45 miles)
Longest Track: 16.15 miles (Nordschleife + GP. Spa is the longest of the F1 circuits in the game at 4.35 miles)
Total Track Length: 163.13 miles
All tracks, all classes: 1305.04 miles

From casual observation it appears that Level 25 manufacturer Affinity requires driving about 800 miles, which would mean driving roughly 53 thousand miles to complete all manufacturers.

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Average Speed per Track


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To calculate average speed per track, I looked at the number one leaderboard time for each class/track combo and calculated the speed from the lap time and lap length. For this chart I’ve selected three out of the eight classes: D300, A600, and X999. I chose to sort it by the X class speeds because those show incremental changes with each track. The wide spikes shown in the A and D class lines are the drag tracks at 1/4 mile, 1/2 mile, and 1 mile. It just so happens that the A class drag times nearly match the X class drag times. The other peaks along the red line are Long Beach East (95 mph), Sebring Club (99 mph), Yas North (104 mph), Top Gear Loop Reverse (114 mph), Le Mans La Sarthe (132 mph), Old Le Mans (147 mph), and Indy Oval at the end (177 mph in A class). Leaderboard times used are current as of mid July. They may have changed a little, but the pattern is consistent across each class.

Fastest lap time (drag): 7.279 seconds (Alfa Romeo 33 Stradale at P907 on the 8-car 1/4 mile drag track)
Fastest lap time (circuit): 17.663 seconds (Lotus E21 at X999 on Long Beach West)
Slowest lap time: 618.838 seconds (10 minutes - Toyota Celica '03 at D400 on Nordschleife + GP)
All fastest times, all classes: 11 hours, 21 minutes, 23.54 seconds
Slowest average lap speed: 65.79 mph (MINI Cooper at D400 on Long Beach West - excludes Airfield Circuit times)
Fastest average lap speed: 233.77 mph (Honda Dallara DW12 at X999 on Indy Oval)

Most #1 Leaderboard Times: 54 (Lotus E21, X999 class.)

See Forzastats.com for more leaderboard data.

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Other Stats

Career
8 Leagues
41 Series
669 Total Career Events (I haven’t calculated the total distance driven yet)

Rivals
31 Permanent Rivals events (10 Spec, 8 Track Days, 5 Autocross, 8 Drift)
472 Time Attack leaderboards

Profile Titles
30 Player Status
98 Achievements (plus 23 Challenges as of 9/7/14 Grand Tour of Prague challenge)
67 Affinity
40 Iconic Affinity
25 Career
20 Multiplayer
66 Community
369 Total Titles (with additional Badges for Country flags)

See the Achievements/Challenges/Titles/Badges thread for updates on Challenges.

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This is a great thread. There’s one more thing you could do to make this thread pretty much a defacto community reference doc… Do the lists again but with each car maxed out on upgrades. Also, unless I missed it, some torque-centric graphics would be really cool.

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It might take a while to do every car fully upgraded, but I’ve been interested in adding a minimum and maximum PI column for each car in the spreadsheet. I’d thought about torque, but left it aside just for getting this thread posted - I’ll work on that one. Looking this over again makes me want to graph a laptime comparison by track, and top speed by year for production cars.

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This is awesome. Great work.

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awesome work!!
Just one thing. Here in Australia we are closer to Asia than Europe, we play in the Asian world cup qualifiers