So near yet so far

This is a cry for help.

I have spent seemingly ages trying to finish my r class Maserati mc12 tune, it started as an experiment to find an alternative to my zonda, as it turned out the mc12 is surprisingly competitive it just needs the final touch.

The issue I have is that I can’t get the front end to hook up. I’ve tried every trick I know and nothing has worked. Would love to hear some suggestions as to how I can fix it.

Thanks in advance guys.

I think you have give us more information about the trouble you are having . . .

Braking and corner entry?
Mid corner understeer?
Exit understeer?
High speed sweeper?
Which track?

Current set-up?

also, can u adjust the build. May want to try and take a little tyre width off the rear unless this will make it too hard to handle.

Put a clip of your issue with the car on your Xbox page. (SmartGlass) with the far outside view and telemetry up. You can show us your symptoms by just making the clip.

Sorry guys more detail below.

It’s a very simple issue that I never normally struggle with. I just cannot get the car to have any sense of immediacy at turn in, have to be really patient with it, then when on the throttle the rear grip overpowers the front. I just managed to solve a little of the issue by jacking the front ride height all the way up and stiffening the back end to make it let go a little more. It is now faster than my zonda round hockenheim although that has a lot to do with the 1000+ Bhp it has rather than its handling. I’m determined to crack this as I’m getting bored of the same old cars.

Post your build, tune and weight distribution.

Well it does have a whole heap of rear downforce compared to the front this car. One of the most imbalanced I’ve encountered. I’ve got to say though, I don’t have the problem you’re describing. of course you want all settings that give a better front end. Lower front roll bar (mine is 1.00), soften front springs, soften front rebound, lower decel diff.

Def sounds like too much rear tyre not enough front.

max front and min rear or ( I did this in f5) get rid of the rear wing.

Sometimes doing the opposite of what you usually do does the trick Try something that should never work. It just might

If you had to raise the front ride height could it be that the front suspension is bottoming out.

If the car is also slow to turn in maybe you also have high front camber?

I would agree with the rear aero being too high IF FM actually applies the downforce at correct locations on the car, i.e. behind the rear wheel. This does not seem to be the case in FM; to me it feels as though the aero forces are applied directly on the wheel/tires as a constant (FM is the only sim that I know that allows aero adjustment in WEIGHT rather than in wing angle/position) Therefore there are no ‘pivoting’ geometry that affects the opposite side of the car. i.e., adding rear aero does not lift the front and adding front aero does not lift the rear. Adding front aero simply adds more weight to the front wheels and adding rear aedo simply adds more weight to the rear wheels. Those are my subjective observations.

Evening everyone. So I had a good read through all your suggestions, thanks a lot for so many responses to it.

After another 8 edits to the tune I finally achieved what I wanted to and got the mc12 to number 1 for its body type round my current tuning track hockenheim national. Managed to beat my zonda time by 0.4 seconds in the end.

I ended up resorting to removing a load of rear grip to turn the car on the throttle which although trickier to drive has proven ideal.

Next challenge is seeing what I can do with that old Maserati ghibli in both b and a class.

Thanks again everyone.

So did you change the build or was it adjustments to the tune? What did you change, you cant leave us hanging here. Don’t need exact numbers just feel it would be helpful to others.

Kind of what I was talking about. I’m no expert tuner but I have a pretty good idea of what to adjust and when and I’ve had to make some “odd” adjustments to make something work. If you haven’t yet, tune a GT40. It was a frustrating car to say the least. For me anyway. And, I wont know until the greek drives it if I got it right. I’m still learning the fine line between pushing a car and pushing it too far.

I get it. Too much rear grip, preventing the car from rotating . . .