Seems to be an excessively loose but fast 2011 BMW 1 series M

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hey everyone

basically, my club-mate asked me to work on the saloons division since she was having trouble with them.

I kind of chuckled and replied “three letters: B - M - W.” And boy oh boy was I right.

First off, I created a B-class classic M3. There’s still some work to be done, but man, she’s predictable and quite nice to drive. I just want to edge her out as far as getting her lap-times down. Basically I’m thinking right now, her tune is too conservative and that’s what’s slowing me down.

Then…

I looked up “Spot the Kitty”'s opensource tunes - http://forums.forza.net/turn10_postst23049_Meowmobiles--Full-Open-Source---61-Cars.aspx

I come from a real racing background. I ran karts as a kid, and bumped up from there. I’ve had my “pro” license, and I’m very proud to say I’ve gone 1:30~ at Laguna SECA. The thing is though, it’s always been a hobby and a more “grassroots” kind of deal. Basically putting it blunt - why would I put a $5000 adjustable sway bar on a $3000 Miata or even a $20,000 “club spec” car?! It just doesn’t happen :smiley: So I’ve always been a bit murky when it comes to sway bar settings. Shocks, springs, alignment? I can handle those blindfolded in the passenger-seat in a car, and it’s almost as effortless in Forza. But the rest, it’s been a very fun new experience learning the sway bars are set up much like the shocks - base numbers from 1 - 10 or whatever. NOT in lbs-ft like I originally thought and raced with for Lord… 5 years now in Forza 2 through 4.

so that’s where “Spot the Kitty”'s tunes come in. They’re open source and priceless. Honestly, sometimes I take one of his tunes, and it takes me 100 miles of driving the car doing all sorts of different things to it to just see if there’s anything at all I could change. Hitting “Y” for the replay instead of rewind has been most helpful in this btw. I can change to all sorts of angles we could only dream of at the track or parking lot (cones anyone?) and see what’s going on.

They’re freaking sweet.

So on that note… this car, I don’t give credit to me. I give it where it’s due.

Spot the Kitty’s wicked base-tune

and chasing down PPiDrive’s wicked fast Alfa :smiley:

So - My BMW is RWD still.
I honestly know some Bimmer drivers… yeah, they’d cry seeing an AWD BMW M. lol. They’d grab a stout and say “there goes another (insert explative here) Audi enthusiast.”

So I couldn’t honestly do an AWD version. That, and my BABY in driving has always been Front Engine/RWD format. Mid-Engine/RWD almost got me killed, literally, but that’s another story :smiley:

I like the slippy and grippy and point-and-shoot I find in FE/RWD platforms in the real world. I get as many kicks out of a Miata most times driven at the edge as I do sitting in or driving my buddy’s Shelby Cobra replica or my other friend’s 2011 BOSS Laguna SECA Mustang. I just love them.

so RWD :smiley:

then I also tried to see if I could tune her to A-800 with a stock internal engine. It’s just something I enjoy doing.

I can rip out interiors, and even hold my own making cages and supports, swapping battery locations and coil-overs. I can also build engines but that’s besides the point. I enjoy taking a “basic stock” car and pushing it to its limits. And by “stock” I mean I haven’t needed to replace a head-gasket… and that’s about all I hadn’t messed with :wink:

and, as far as I know, the only changes I did to the “Engine/performance” category were the flywheel, intake and exhaust I think. I’ll post up later today when I’m on the game again and edit/update this.

The rest - all pretty much Kitty’s tune upgrades -
race weight
race tires
race brakes
race suspension
race diff
race cage
front chin
rear spoiler
race clutch (I think? - may have been something I didn’t do)
race trans
race driveline

I can honestly say

Kitty’s alignment and tire pressures (surprisingly considering his is AWD) didn’t change
neither did his sway bar adjustments

all I did was change the springs and shocks a bit. And I mean a bit… like arguably less than 15% across the board.

heck, even my rear differential set at 80%/20% I kept! At first it was for s’s and g’s. I hadn’t put a diff at that setting yet minus my Chevelle which I put at 100%… I wanted to see what high settings like that could do.

about 50 miles or so later, I had my tune. Again, just messing with springs and shocks.

And… she didn’t FEEL fast. Like, I wasn’t impressed. I immediately thought (meh, my A-Soobie or even my A-Mini will smoke this)

then, the “do you want to race your rival?” came up. PPiDrive was the rival. And I saw the TIME. I was only under by tenths of a second… and the credits was at $10,000.

30 laps later -
10 laps to “settle in” as I call it
5 laps after making a slight adjustment
5 laps after making another adjustment
10 laps running HARD

  • also for noobies out there caring about rivals times -

take note of this ^^^
I do 10 laps chasing my rival and seeing how my car drives, getting familiar with the car if I’m not, the track, and my rival’s car. For example, PPiDrive’s Alfa seemed to really be able to power it on out of the turns. Something I normally do too. He beat me every. single. time. So… that meant? Brake later? maybe? :smiley: 10 laps, purposely not trying to WIN.

after that

5 laps doing minor adjustments. And I mean minor. Like, I changed one setting, on ONE thing!

then adjustments again in this case after 5 laps.

and guess what?

I got lucky! This time it only took basically two trips to the pits to dial her in. Sometimes… like my Zagato… freaking 10 days later… STILL DOING THIS! :smiley: lol

then, it’s GO time. 10 laps, at 100% effort, finding that proverbial knife-edge. THAT’S DRIVING! :smiley: such a blast, even in a video game. Where else can I rip through the French Riviera or Swiss Alps (I hate flying btw) in a BMW 1M (can’t afford btw) and NOT CARE about breaking ANYTHING?!? (never in real life. always a concern)

to wittle down TENTHS of a second. Seriously
1:07.572 - 1:06.635 = .937 - aka tenths of a second. Still. lol.


now, I always strive to attain 1% in cars I enjoy, and on tracks I like. One or the other is the minimum required. Then I end up in rivals for about 5 hours it seems lol. I can’t help it. It’s not the lap time or the position I’m in that I think is special.

it’s she didn’t FEEL that QUICK! :smiley: I mean, it was the easiest time I’ve ever had in FH2 getting in the 1% bracket.

so, now, here’s my question - anyone else want to give it a go? I’m curious to see just how mean she is. I know PPiDrive CAN drive. I chased his tail for about an hour! :smiley: I’m pretty sure the other tuners can hold their own too.

and I’d share the tunings… but -

they’re Kitty’s. Honestly. I just tweaked out the shocks and springs a bit. To SUIT MY TASTE. Hence why I’m putting this in the “Tuner Board” instead of the “Racer’s Board.” I have my driving line, and style. You all have yours. I drive “kamikaze” - hot in, hard on brakes, spin sideways (a’la Jeremy Clarkson seriously), and shoot out as fast as I can. It was this driving style that almost got me killed. I basically welded a caliper to a rotor… yep. OUCH.

give it a shot if you want. I think I found something special.

and I think I may add this from now on… 1% is just the tip of the iceberg. That means your in the group of Forza players that either A) don’t treat it as “just a game” B) insanely talented and gifted C) have GOBS of experience… or D: all of the above. :wink: and that’s where the fun really begins.

Fact is my M1 seems fast. She’s a 1% right? WRONG. Those top 10 leaderboard cars/drivers? They’d be LAPPING me by like lap 5-10… OUCH. :smiley:

and on that note, I’m looking at BMW-USA’s website and “fantasy window-shopping building” a BMW M1 :smiley:

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Nice tune Cudafish - can I drive it?
I have intentionally looked at Kitty’s Tunes only to see which cars to drive, but I’ve never used them as a base - maybe I should.

In the PM we had, I thought you were chasing my Alfa Romeo 8C which, as I said, was an AWD suppression from S1 into A class. From your photo I see you’re racing my Alfa Romeo 4C. No, that car is just fast. It’s RWD and faster than the 8C.

You also had to go and post that picture - now I have a love letter to go work on.

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the actual tune is in the “marketplace” or whatever. It’s titled 1% something lol. I forget. But yeah, the BMW 1 series M tune I’ve done is there. Just upload it and you’re good to go! Should be fairly cheap too. No engine mods, just suspension and chassis :wink: it’s a blast to drive.

as for that Alfa - yeah… it’s FAST. Don’t care which one or anything lol. It’s freaking QUICK. And your driving line was pretty spot on too.

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That is a great tuning experience you shared. Thanks! ( plus it has me in it. woo! Kitty always likes that :slight_smile: )
After I was medically declared disabled for work ( they said it was either continue to work or an very early death), I thought I would try a racing game. Up until then it was only music oriented gaming. FM5 was my first and my short term memory has a hard time remembering an entire track. I race each lap as if it is the first time.
I found tuning. I researched everything I could about racing, physics, and math for 9 solid months (still learning and improving). I kept copious notes which I plan to unleash upon the world soon. Most will say that real world grease monkey stuff doesn’t apply much to gaming. I beg to differ, and if I can drive the car, I’m sure someone better than me can drive the compound off the tires. In real world racing you have math heads, mechanics, and drivers all working in a team to win the race.
Your story just proves it works the same in game too :slight_smile:
Meow.

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pretty much. I’ve been playing these games since the first Gran Turismo. And about the same time, was when I started track racing as well. They just always have gone hand in hand. But to be honest, it’s absolutely mind boggling how close it’s come to the real thing now. There’s still some issues. Speaking of math, translating torsion bar tension weight to coil-springs is FUN… NOT. lol But it’s worth it, and now I can drive Mopar without a blink (I wrote down the equivalents in a notepad since Forza 3). Even made 1% with my Cuda in Sisteron at a couple tracks (still trying to keep up with Drive and his RUF… but such is the way of things in S1) and apparently she’s downright intimidating in multiplayer. My perfect S1 bruiser now. She either beats them at the track and lap times, or if they want to mess around… she’s 1970s Detroit Steel :wink:

unfortunately that left them quitting after about 9 races in a row lol. Such is the ways of things though. I tried to be friendly with them, complement on things they did right… but man, just a bunch of over-powered ninnies that’d make Henry, Enzo, Alexandre and Bertone crawl in their graves. I’m sorry if I can actually keep a corner, let alone in a car that shouldn’t be able to play with Enzo’s, new Vipers and Huracan lol.

I honestly just wish I could meet up with other 1%ers that wouldn’t be intimidated, but instead revel in the challenge of like-minded and gear-headed greasemonkeys that love cars! :smiley: Hence why I’m starting to fill up my “friend’s list” with guys from the forum :wink:

and PPiDrive - dude, you gotta check out that 1 Series M. She’s loose, very loose. But in a Jeremy Clarkson good kind of way :smiley:

and on that note, here are the tunes I feel I have that are pretty good:

C - class
Lancia Stratos (this started it all with Spot the Kitty - used his tune, modified the setup a little and now she’s EPIC for me)

B - class
1990s MX-5 Miata (based this on Club Spec Miata type - and she grips to all high heaven. I swear I almost actually got whiplash once lol)

A - class
new Miata (basically a powered up version of the early one :D)

1971 Hemi Cuda (with base heavy HEMI engine)

Lancia 037 B-group rally car - specc’d her out to the stats of the real B-Group car - about 425 or so hp. TONS of fun, but very slick in the rain… gotta know how to slide :wink:

Land Rover Defender 90 - for some reason, either I’m incredibly lucky, or her shocks/springs are just right. Never had a bad landing in her. She’s become my “Cross Country” go-to in multiplayer in A class. Seriously. She’s just stable, and with good navigation on the driver’s part, she’s never let me down.

S1 - class
1971 Hemi Cuda (with base heavy HEMI engine) - I’ve gotten her, as I said before into the 1% realm. It’s tough going though, and knowledge of her power band and throttle is KEY. You basically steer with the throttle after pointing :wink:

The BMW Series 1 M - honestly if you can hold on for dear life, she’ll get you across the line in first and looking totally killer doing it. I’ve never racked up so much XP in a race before based on “skills” :smiley:

and
Aston Martin Zagato - I’m not happy with her. But to be fair, about ten other people are telling me how great she is. As PPiDrive said, something’s “missing” and like he said, it could be any number of minor things. Basically, her turn-in at speed is great, but down low it leaves something to be desired… haven’t gotten her into 1%… yet. But I did a sub 15 minute finale in her. So… she’s quick- ish.

for pure leaderboard bruising… I really want to make the Cuda sing with the lighter Gen3 HEMI… Stage 2 supercharger and it’s the same engine as in the Challenger Hellcat. Then, twin-turbo’d like a Nolan Racing Engine version for S2. I got her up to 220mph on the freeway, but she was very twitchy lol.

and then…
S2 - class
My old school VW Beetle :smiley:

back in the day, pulling up to the lights at the freeway, a Beetle came up to me. He actually revved at me. At the time, I was in my low 11 second 1969 El Camino with a 427 7.0L Smallblock. That car in 1970 SS Chevelle form in-game is an S1.

I just shook my head, and when the lights changed jumped it. Got up to 80 in about nothing, and backed off…

with the beetle out in front. The wheels should have given her away.

He took a totalled GTR2 and put it IN the Beetle! :smiley: AWD - twin turbo’d Boxer 6. YEP.

So that inspired my S2 Beetle. She has the TT4VVT in her instead. I was livid the RUF6 isn’t a viable swap. The V8 is too heavy for touring.

honestly, she’s just a “fun” car to mess with. But she can hold her own. I ran a sub-15 minute finale in her too in multiplayer with no rewind. And in multiplayer she was a blast beating up all those supercars.

When I actually bother to care about S2, I’ll tune up the Ultima GTR. She was my baby in Horizon. And honestly, she’s a SBC mid-engined in a British race-car… I’m in HEAVEN. I’ll get her down good.

but first, I gotta get the One-77, Shelby Daytona, and the Mk2 GT, and at that cost, I may as well throw in the Cobra SC427 while I’m at it.

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I’m jumping on the game now so we’ll see… Look for a love letter soon. In your own car :stuck_out_tongue:

And as for the Zagato - turn in at slow speed is good, at high speed it’s iffy - you got it backwards in your last post. Don’t go changing the wrong thing.

EDIT: I wasn’t your friend - you were mine (which I’ve since fixed) - so I did not get a rival alert. What track is this?

EDIT EDIT: After endless searching, finally found the track.

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so how exactly does the X1 work with friends? lol :smiley:

but yeah, sad to say I couldn’t even tell you which track it was lol. I’ve been driving a lot lately… not exactly a bad thing :smiley:

EDIT: and PPiDrive, was that the SAME car? I thought you were driving the 2series last I checked the leaderboards lol. But on that note, that run is going to be my “bar” for my A-class beasties. My Mini, Soobies, etc, all are going to go up against that car. Amazing run man. You blew my time out of the water.

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I drove the 1M Coupe the first time. Then I drove it again in the new DLC BMW 850 to show it some love and improved my time over several runs. - Sorry, I can try to go faster in the 1M.

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bah, it’s all good dude. I’m just picking on you. How is that new Bimmer? Definitely looking forward to actually most of the DLC… realistically I’m just getting the pack after I get Storm Island. It was great driving with you tonight! (even though I drove like poo-doo lol (if you know what that’s from, kudos… kudos)