- Yes (Braking lines is a yes for this poll) and why ?
- No and why ?
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I really want to see how many players play without the racing lines because Forza is the only game where I see people having it enabled and using it
I haven’t used any lines since a few games back, mainly because not using them makes me a better driver, and it makes the game more immersive.
Personally, I see the lines as something a person who doesn’t know a track would use. Once you’re familiar with the dynamics of a game and a track, you’re most likely faster (and less likely to bump into other players in MP) without the lines.
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No. It makes me slower, but I’m here for the immersion.
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With some training you will be faster. You can do it !
Thanks for the encouragement. I don’t race seriously though as I work as a musician and that’s already intense enough with the competition. I DO enjoy getting better, but I can’t really start putting effort into it as that will eat away too much from the real world.
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I drive bonnet cam as I both find the seating position in car annoying (and can’t be modified) and I like to have a rear view mirror. Can’t stand the external views as I don’t drive my own car that way.
I have the breaking line on as in some cars the bonnet cam is very low and with the sun in your eyes it can be the only way of spotting a corner/turn in point.
I don’t follow the advice it gives on the where you should brake or the speed you should be at. It’s just purely a visual aid until T10 do something about the lack of customisation of seating position and virtual mirrors in all views.
Edit: Oh, should have said that it also gives me a good idea where the AI might unexpectedly slam their brakes on down a straight.
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I use braking line cause it lets me have better times, for immersion I use my sundek shorts
I don’t use it, I’d rather spend a bid more time figuring out a track but therefore I have my own line and brake points which are usually faster than if I drive with the line on.
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Always drive without help lines.
These have no place in online races at least, or the servers should be divided into players with and without help lines.
My experience in recent years is that players who use these lines never really get to know the track and only concentrate on these lines. This leads to many accidents.
In addition, these players have an advantage at night or in bad weather, they can stay fully off the gas until the line turns red, which players without aids cannot rely on.
But here, too, there is certainly not just black and white and the discussions about this have been going on for a very long time.
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Yeah we need a mirror for different cam and more cam (I have the hood cam from GT in mind).
I think you can do a suggestion about it !
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I’ve always been no assists but racing line on since FM1 (braking line only from whichever game had the setting for it). I started messing around without the line with this game since I built a rig and started getting into tuning and stuff, figured I’d get the full immersion. I never really compared lap times, but I noticed since I turned the line off and ABS on, and started tuning all my brakes for 200% force, my segment scores are way better on average. I score a lot more in the 9.5-10 range and really only go below 8.5 if I make a mistake. The trajectory of the line is pretty decent in most corners, but I’d say a good chunk of them I take completely different lines naturally now. Off the top of my head, the sweeper after the corkscrew at Laguna Seca and the double-apex/wide-radius hairpin before the long straight at Suzuka come to mind. The esses at Suzuka are particularly off too. I get 10’s across them consistently now with the line turned off, whereas I’d be in the 8’s prior. The long sweeper at Road America is another one.
The line seems to be the worst with early/late apex corners and long sweepers. Also in general, the suggested braking point seems to be way too early and the fade from red to yellow makes the player heavily favor trail-braking and not corner exit speed, so you end up building the tendency to coast or lightly brake through apexes instead of accelerating through them.
I’m a much better driver without it. I ran through the Nordschleife for the first real time ever in a Forza game without the line turned on and it felt kinda easy. I went off track just once on one of the blind corners. Honestly, what probably helped the most was tuning all of my level 50’s at VIR with the line turned off. Coming from someone who for literal decades raced with the line on, turn it off. It’ll take some time to get used to, but the driving becomes so much more fun without it.
Also, relevant to what @Samstrike_68 mentioned, unless I know the track really well, I’m wayyyy worse at night and in fog because I can’t see the distance markers well. But regardless I still recommend turning the line off.
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Congrats for turning off your racing lines, I don’t think it was easy for you.
But thank you for sharing your story.
Yeah about the bad weather and the night time, it’s difficult but that’s one of the things that make endurance racing cool in my opinion
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There already is a suggestion somewhere. Might have to find and publish it a bit wider.
I mostly don’t for immersion, but I occasionally use them for practicing and hotlapping, especially on a track I don’t really understand or with a car I’m having difficulty adjusting to.
Yes but here get the reason why
Because it defaults to braking only and I got tired of turning it off after full assist leveling 
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Yes, braking only.
Why? To compensate for the deficit of information between driving with a controller on a screen versus using real world car controls, visibility, and tactile feedback.
Particularly, the combination of bumper cam and the braking line compensate for the lack of peripheral vision in the game and the lack of ability to feel inertia and weight transfer. I can drive without the line. It just takes longer to get my times up to speed but I’m on controller anyway and don’t run manual w\clutch either so might as well kick the line on too. Those are my only assists though. Manual, no clutch and braking line. Everything else is off and sim steering.
I will say this about the suggested line. On T10’s fictional tracks, the line can feel like a bit of a lie sometimes. Mostly, whether you’re ON the line or not, it’s a pretty good indicator of whether you’ve slowed down enough for the corner. There are just spots in Prague and Dubai in particular where if you aren’t pretty much right on the line you kinda have to ignore it completely for braking info. Just one guy’s experience.
P.S. This poll would be more interesting if you tracked all three options. I’m constantly surprised how many people are running a full line in reddit clips.
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Not only on reddit… when I watch streams on twitch I always see racing lines
None of the tracks are new to me,I’ve been racing since night driver.No need for any lines telling me when to turn or brake.
Braking line on because I want it on. After a while it becomes part of the track and you still have to pick you actual braking points anyway.
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I treat it as an alternative braking marker that cannot be taken out by people ahead of me.
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