Great news about Forza Motorsport, but I have a question about the available platforms.
The press release has this:
Q: What platforms will I be able to play Forza Motorsport on?
A: Forza Motorsport will be available on Xbox Series X, Windows 10 PC and on Xbox Game Pass.
Does this mean it will be available on Xbox One/S/X, alongside the Series X? It’s very unclear
Definitely sounding like it’s skipping Xbox One. In fact it’s very likely they’ve deliberately avoided a release this year so they can avoid any obligation to support Xbox One.
It’s not unclear at all. It says “Xbox Series X” and “Windows 10 PC”, but not Xbox One. It says Xbox Game Pass, but that’s because Game Pass is also a feature on Xbox Series X and PC.
In short, no, Forza Motorsport (8) is not coming to Xbox One.
It is unclear. Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence in other words.
If a game is available on Xbox One, Xbox One Series X and Windows 10 PC, then the statement “it will be available on Xbox One Series X and Windows 10 PC” is still true.
You are probably correct that it will ONLY be available on those two latter platforms, BUT Microsoft has not explicitly confirmed or denied this.
Sure, might as well throw out that this also means that Forza Motorsport 8 might also come to Nintedo Switch and PS4. I believe this is very obvious. The game isn’t coming out soon either, so it will arrive after all the Xbox One game support is over. This is also true for games like Fable and Avowed.
It is unclear, because Xbox Game pass is available on all Xbones, so name checking it alongside the other platforms makes it unclear.
It probably isn’t but they should say it clearly.
I note MM has edited my post to link to the press release but hasn’t answered the question.
They know everyone will be annoyed that they have already announced a next gen only game, so skirting round the issue.
DamMe2006 is correct - I edited your post so that the community could see the press release you were referencing, as a way to be helpful, but that’s the extent of how I can be helpful on this topic since I don’t have insight on exact plans other than details officially announced. I think I and others will keep an eye out for word from both Turn 10 and Xbox key persons and update this thread when we get more info.
IT will not be on Xbox one as max stated above in a post and they stated on the stream its a next gen title so do not get your hopes up cause you not be happy on the outcome
Max as a Moderator doesn’t necessarily have all the inside skinny on the next game, he’s just another member of the community like you - a helpful one but not a T10 employee.
Fair enough, I’m not here that much. My questions still stands.
I’m sorry to say, it sounds like it won’t be available on the existing Xbox platforms. Xbox series X / Windows 10 PC only - for all FullNietzsche could argue semantics. They also don’t mention it’ll be available on Sega Megadrive, but I wouldn’t be expecting it to turn up on one.
I don’t think it’s unclear at all. Every game that is coming to the One/One X stated such after the trailer. Forza did NOT have the One on that list. Some other games didn’t either. The biggest thing to note with that, is how Halo Infinite had the Xbox One there, yet Forza did not. That wasn’t a simple oversight.
If it was coming coming to current gen, it would have said so. But it didn’t, so it isn’t. And I’m glad it isn’t. Current gen would hold it back. Certain things like raytracing and SSD-based advantages couldn’t be done, due to the One lacking said hardware, and they’d have to build the game with that in mind. But cut that off? And now you can fully utilize all the tools at the disposal of the Series X.
Ray-tracing is a gimmick, not something to delay the game for another 2-3 years. Plenty of PC games exist with ray-tracing which work on machines without it. It just has RT disabled on those machines, it isn’t difficult.
Ray Tracing isn’t a gimmick and the game seems to be build around RT. There is no simply turn it off button for developers and they would need to work on other solutions for reflections for example for Xbox One.
Even if we assume RT could be simply turned off, then the developers would need to reduce physics, AI, … calculations assuming they are using the Series X CPU to it’s fullest. Now we come to the elephant in the room… tracks. Turn10 said we can expect the laguna track detail on every track and if you take a picture of the track shown in the teaser on current gen racers, then you see a gigantic leap. These details are in parts possible due to devs being able to stream in 40x more data compared to the HDD in Xbox One. That’s not something you simply can turn off as the track would need to be redone and you basically do two versions of tracks, which take many months to develop.
I think it’s highly improbable they will put a SSD, a eight core 3.8 GHz CPU, and a RTX GPU as a minimum requirement for the game.
Turn 10 won’t demand Series X specs as minimum requirement. But definitely more than the poor Jaguar CPU based on tablets CPU in the current gen consoles can do.
As for the SSD I imagine PC will either have some serious RAM requirements to accommodate that or require a slower SSD. Either way Xbox One won’t have more RAM to accommodate that and a very slow HDD. At some point in the next few years PC gamers will need at least a SSD, not necessarily a NVME SSD. That’s just how Hardware progress goes.
Interestingly, just seen this on the web;
"Future 1P titles are developed for Xbox Series X first. Not saying those games won’t ship on Xbox One, only that we are leading with Series X & each studio will decide what’s best for their game/community when they launch.
— Aaron Greenberg 
(@aarongreenberg) July 23, 2020"
So it seems it’s not entirely clear whether or not this could appear on an Xbox One at some point I guess.
You guys are making this waaayy too difficult. Nothing in the trailer or announcement of the new Motorsport game indicated it would be available on the current XBox One family of consoles. Other games that will be available on those consoles indicated so. It has also been officially confirmed in multiple articles, interviews and quotes from T10 personnel over the last couple of days that Motorsport will only be a Series X and PC game.
Excuse me… With all due respect, customers sometimes play dumb for no reason. What part of “Xbox Series X/Windows PC”, with no mention of Xbox One, is unclear to you?
Furthermore, do you really expect the game to feature a technological leap within the confines of the competent but severely outdated AMD Jaguar CPU on the Xbox One?
Yes, this game will be a Series X exclusive, unless Turn 10 decides to release it on the Xbox One. Deal with it. If it’s everything they’re touting, it’s gonna require the CPU power for the physics and the Xbox One simply can’t cut it. Look at how badly proper sims run on them.
And I say this as an Xbox One X owner. I don’t want Microsoft to hold back like they did with Halo. Focusing on four consoles (Series X, One X, One S and One FAT) with the PC on top of it, proved detrimental to Halo. It would also hurt Forza.
It was a question, as it’s not made explicit, only by omission. Having Game Pass in there just muddies the waters
LOLOL, way to undermine your whole argument.