Hi,i have a problem with the dlc ferrari641 that i bought today.I’ve been driving it in the Xclass ghost league and in every race after3lap’s my rev’s drop off and i can barely get it to 4th gear?I have tried 3different tunes in it and the same thing happen’s in every race,has anyone got an idea as to what is going on or is it a bug? HELP…
are you playing with man clutch? Are you destroying your motor or gearbox with misshifts. This is a fast shifting hard braking car as are all of the f1 cars so if you are shifting too fast you could be damaging the car.
When you run the car again and this begins to happen take a look at what the damage telemtry screen shows.
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I’ve just done two lap’s around rio’s national circuit and it was doing it again,losing power and not being able to reach 4th gear,the telemetry showed nothing not even any tyre wear,only did two lap’s after all…
Hmmmm.
First thing before doing any other fixes. Do a FULL Hard Reset.
Which means, powering down the Xbox using the button on the face of the console.
1): Turn the console off at the wall
2): Remove the power cable from the wall.
3): Disconnect the power cord from the power supply unit, and from the Xbox.
4): disconnect the Ethernet cable, if you’re connected via hardwire.
5): Wait a full five minutes until the light on the power unit disappears fully.
6): Then even wait a minute or so after thet to be sure.
7): Then, plug everything back in.
8): Power up the console,
9): Go into the settings and make sure there’s no Controller Upgrades due or any Console Upgrades waiting.
NOTE: Once you’ve gone that, and if there’s any updates, NEVER ever start the game or console until the upgrades have finished 100%. Even if it says Ready To a Start… Don’t!
Once you’re back up and running, go in and give it a try once again. If it continues, then there’s definitely a bug.
OZ
No i have an auto gearbox,i can’t use the clutch in Xclass car’s because i get left on the grid the car’s never launch,so with sim.damage being on in this ghost league you think i might be damaging the engine? hmm,thing is i’ve asked four other owner’s and they aren’t having any problem’s.
yes ok cheer’s,it may be that but mindst you it drives perfectly fine in rival’s and for the first few lap’s in the ghost league,but then like i say i start to lose rev’s and basically it’s a choice between pitting or just quitting which i don’t like doing,but either way the race is done for me at that point because car’s are flying past,i will give everything a good examination…
Im leaning towards some sort of damage, even tho you may not see it in telemetry, maybe looking at the color at the very last page of it, if it’s red it might be damaged or yellow meaning about to. Even if you use manual with out clutch it still uses an automated clutch to engage the gears.
while the colouring damage model in the LAST. Tab show added suspension damage, it’s damage that causes irregular handling or poor road holding more than loosing power like the OP is suggesting.
OP, do try the Hard Reset, and do it properly, don’t be impatient as some end up being.
I’ve noticed the lamp on the power pack stays on sometimes for more than five full minutes.
Ever so faintly, but the lights still on. Which is why I always wait a few extra minutes after I’ve noticed the lamp goes out.
I make this a regular monthly thing since purchasing the Xbox One. And the unit has remained fault free. Touch wood. (Taps head lol).
Sometimes a bug can just affect one aspect rather than something across the whole unit. There’s no harm in giving it a go.
OZ
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I was damaging an engine by downshifting into 1st gear too soon but if you are auto then that doesnt seem to be an issue. I was also damaging an engine buy running flat out down the Mulsanne in a car that didn’t have the gearing and hit peak way too soon. Only place I ever noticed it was there and at Nordschleif as they both had extended straights. I never run the ovals but it would likely do it there too.
I would make sure damage was off and see what happens then. Run one of the ovals and/or the Mulsanne flat out a few times and check the damage percentage after. If damage appears you need more top end in the gearing.
@OZ, if transmission has been damaged your shifting points will be out of wack therefore lost of power and slower laps will happened, however you have risen a good point on a hard reset as well, but IMO its more likely than not that something is broken (damage).
Right ,ok,i have had a good session this evening,but in my lotus,not the ferrari,i ran the ferrari in the full sim.damage ghost league only once to find out what was going on with the loss of power and after the race checked out the telemetry and it showed the engine at 21%,so does that mean i had 21%left or that i had used 21%? i also checked the lotus out[ive had no issues with that car,in fact i have been breaking lap record’s last couple of day’s],anyway the engine was at 0% after the race in the lotus and by the way the ferrari work’s perfectly fine in rival’s,no problem’s at all.
Thanks Warlock, yeah, I think that it could be like someone stated, a bad car file.
Remembering that, the cars are actually files. Files can be corrupted by oddities as we all know. Causing issues that pertain to it and it alone.
So, like what’s been suggested, delete the car through selling it, get rid of the tune/s if it’s been used with a tune. Then repurchase the car.
Try it in stock form, see if the bug reoccurs.
If it doesn’t… Which I’m sure it won’t, then Great.
Then ad the tune…
Try that identically as when the issue occurred.
If the issue occurs, then it’s a corrupted tune file.
Or, the two files combined that are causing the issue.?!
Trial and elimination is the only way to work through these sort of things, right.?!
It’s much like the Hard Reset. It needs to go right back to complete negative, no power stored I. The unit. Same applies to the cars file.
If, for whatever reason, the car has developed a bug, it could have been a quirk in the system.
So going back to a clean point, then re-adding the items until you find the point at which the fault occurs.
If it’s a shifting issue. I’d suggest to slightly lift that right trigger on gear changes, even though it’s just auto/manual clutch (without actual clutch) damage can occurs if you take it too far, hold it too long at peak revs trying to squeeze out more speed etc, or shifting back before you have a safety margin in the revs to allow the drop in gears.
I used to do that, but learnt the hard way. Way too many damaged trans, incl clutch and gearbox.
The trick in the upper classes, if I’m not mistaken, is to keep the engine in its peak torque curve, so that optimum power is delivered without sacrificing a drop in engine revs or power…
Hopefully with some fine tuning on the human element could be the trick.
I’m sure with all the great advice being shelled out, you’ll find some that helps. Fingers crossed lol…
OZ
If you are using Auto trans or Manual Without Clutch the only thing I can think of is hard down shift causing rev limit engine braking. Some car can handle the abuse in Forza 6 and Some lose a couple of percent every hard down shift. If the telemetry is reporting 21%, that is the amount of damage from 0%. It goes from 0% to 100% always.
I don’t think it is possible to force down shifts with auto trans so you must be using Manual without Clutch. Try down shifting slower with the car you are having trouble with and see if that make a difference. If it still damages the engine then I don’t know what is happening other than hard down shifts.
If you have the credits, sell the car and buy a new one. Download a new tune directly to the car.
When changing tunes always remove the old tune by resetting to default parts. The easiest way to do this is to try to install a part. You will get a message to remove the old tune. Then sell the problem tune so you don’t use it again. Always install a shared tune by downloading and installing it. Do not reinstall a shared tune from your saved tunes file.
That’s what I do when cars do wacky things.
Selling the old car seems a tad… extreme. I’ve never had to resort to that to fix wonky behavior in a car. Just resetting to stock and re-tuning usually is enough. I’m wondering if this car has an issue with the shifting logic that could be causing the automatic shifting to tear up the engine?
High power engines can also cause engine damage from hitting the rev limiter,so if the tune is topping out in top gear, or you shift too late can also cause engine damage
thank’s for the input guy’s,it look’s to me that it’s only going to be a problem in full sim.damage situations,which won’t come around often i wouldn’t of thought,in which case i’ll just jump into the lotus.As far as the tune theory goes i have tried about five different ones and the same engine wear occurs,the tuner’s probably aren’t aware of the problem as most people will be using them in normal m/c lobbies.
Maybe the car they modelled still had the teams sabotage in it to make sure their preferred driver won.
It appears OP has this mostly sorted. However, in situations where one car behaves oddly in very specific circumstances and everything else works fine, my recommendation is to focus on the build, tune, and driving style. It is extremely unlikely to be a data file problem or a systemwide problem that reinstalls and reboots will solve. Not saying it isn’t possible, but it is sufficiently improbable that you should consider a more straightforward approach first.
A start point is to drive stock with your normal set of assists. Refer to telemetry. If you can’t replicate the problem, then try to determine the differences between when it happens and when it doesn’t.
I just bought the car pack to test the car bone stock no tune and the car awesome. With no tune it is fun to drive but understeers and has a slow steering response.
The car shifts super fast. I did a 6 lap race in Free Play with no assists and sim damage on. Of course the 4% transmission damage is still there and will never be fixed in Forza 6. During that 6 lap race I had 4% Engine damage from normal driving just learning the stock gear ratios. No big deal.
Here is the kicker. I wanted to see what happened if I down shifted as fast as I could and nothing happened to the motor until I down shifted 2 gears at the same time. The engine went straight to the limiter for less than a second and I had 15% engine damage right there.
How old is your controller and do you have a sticky button causing double gear shifts? Double gear shifts in X class cars will kill your engine in a few seconds or a few feet with sim damage on. You need train yourself not to double gear change near the limiter with sim damage on.
hmmm,not aware of any problem with gear changes,sometimes slip’s a couple but that’s when the tune has like eight gear’s and you’re bombing down hill to a chicane[road atlanta]is a good example and you have to drop like six gear’s in a second but most of the tunes i tried in the ferrari only have like four or five anyway’s,might change the controller though been umming and arring about the elite for a while now but it’s still too dear£130? wow…